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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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Need help with small tour group companies for Thailand and Cambodia

Hello,
I'm starting research for a trip to Thailand and Cambodia for fall of 2007...I could use some help in researching tour companies. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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I should add that my husband and I are usually independent travlers, fairly active 40 somethings. I have done a little preliminary research and found a tour with OAT that sounds interesting but want to explore other options. Not sure about their group sizes, though...

Thanks in advance for your help!
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 10:33 AM
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We need more information. Do you mean companies that offer all-inclusive, multi-day tours taking you to different locations? Or do you mean companies that offer day tours in specific locations? Are you looking to travel with a group or with just you and a guide? Thailand and Cambodia (especially the former) are easy to do on your own if you want to make your own arrangements. Do you want to do some of the planning yourself? Or do you want logistics and such things taken care of for you? Also, any idea of where, specifically, you want to go?
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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We've used Gregg at www.Innovasian.com several times with good success. You can do it cheaper on your own, but the first time we went it was comforting to have someone else do all the detail work.
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 11:56 AM
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I knew as soon as I posted I had ot given enough information...sorry about that.

My husband and I normally travel independently and I usually book all of our trips, but I feel a little overwhelmed by the thought of booking this tour!

We want a multi-city tour, preferably a private tour but would consider a SMALL group. (under 10 people)

Just bought a travel book on Thailand and Cambodia, so the specific sights right now are mostly limited to what I already know about Cambodia (Angkor Wat, etc.) I'd liket o see a little bit of everything, I guess!

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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Can't help with the under 10 size, but Intrepid travels with no more than 12. Great itineraries and prices, but you will travel close to the ground and may rough it a bit. Forget OAT - I went to Thailand with them for my second trip to Asia and thought they were awful - poor planning, bored guide, hotels outside the center - I could go on. In fact, for Thailand and Cambodia, no reason you can't do it on your own. If you really want a tour we need some idea of your price range - Geo Ex is a lot more expensive than Intrepid or Peregrine, for instance, and Adventures Abroad is in between..
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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Consider www.imaginative-traveller.com. We took their trip to Japan and liked their style a lot. They have both "Adventurer" and "Traveler" categories. Also, did you see this month's (or maybe it was last month's) Budget Travel magazine a charming story about a woman who took a small group tour in SE Asia. http://www.budgettravelonline.com/bt...900690_pf.html.
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Wow, thanks for all the info! I admit I was leery of OAT- the pictures in the catalog look like everyone is over 70! I have a friend who went with them to Egypt and had a great time, but if it's possible for us to do it on our own that would be my first option.

A group of 12 wouldn't be bad, I suppose...

I'll look into Intrepid...the other companies I've seen are:


www.innovasion.com

http://www.exploreworldwide.com/

http://www.geckosadventures.com/Default.asp?bhcp=1

http://www.gapadventures.com/country...nd?utm_id=5406

Anyone familiar with any of these?
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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Oops! I wrote the first one wrong... it's

www.innovasian.com

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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Haven't traveled with any of those, although I recognize some of the names. I'd suggest you spend some time with the guidebooks (don't forget Lonely Planet & Footprints), and then come back with a tentative itinerary. You can get around these countries by train, plane and a few buses or cars.
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Thanks so much...will come back on once I've rad my books!
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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I traveled to Thailand with www.travelindochina.com , but they also go to Vietnam, Cambodia, China, India and Laos. They also have some trips that do more than one country. They have small groups (my group only had 3 travelers) and I had a great experience with them.

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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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I did mean READ my books...typing malfunction today I guess!

Thanks, Jenn, I will check out your web site.

What are some of your favorite places to go? We're not always into the typical "touristy" things (just got back from Egypt and had my FILL of cheesy tourist crap!)We like to have more of a glimpse of the culture of the country- not people putting on a show for the tourists, do you know what I mean?
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 03:35 PM
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I've traveled with Intrepid - a group of 12. We enjoyed the tour a lot. It was mostly a young group. For my trip with my daughter to Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia, however, we decided after much agonizing (and many questions on this board!) to go on our own. It was a wise decision. It was easy and lots of fun. We hired guides in a few places so we weren't totally left to our own devices. If you enjoy traveling independently, you can definitely do so in Thailand/Cambodia. We can help you work out an itinerary, suggest hotels, recommend guides/drivers, restaurants, and not-to-be-missed sights. I wasn't sure we could do it on our own, but it was absolutely no problem. If you enter "conundrum" in the search box, you'll see the trail of my agonizing and planning: "Mother-daughter conundrum...what if?"
My "PRE-TRIP" report laying out what it took to organize everything.
And the trip report when we returned: "After all that planning and agonizing, Karen and Julie finally did it"
Give it some thought. I'd encourage you to go it alone!
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 04:06 PM
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I agree with Karen. It's not hard to plan the trip on your own. There are so many great guides, great hotels where the staff will take care of you, and traveling between points a&b is easy.

Don't be intimidated!

Why not put together a loose itinerary of the places you'd like to see and let us help you plan it?

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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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We are travelling Thailand and Cambodia in late Dec/early Jan. We are using a small tour operator - Journey's Within. They've worked with us to design a private, custom tour. The owners are expats living in Cambodia. The tour is from Bangkok to Cambodia, Northern Thailand and Phuket. Price, in our opinion, is very good.

The owner even called me at home to go to fine-tune the itinerary.

We seriously considered planning ourselves but, after seeing what Andrea put together, we decided it would be great to just let someone else handle the detail.

Check them out at http://www.journeys-within.com/


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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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Okay, I'll go over my books tonight and try to come up with some places of interest...then we can start making the decision on whether to try it alone or with a group. So far the tour companies I thought seemed interesting were Intrepid, Gap Adventures and Gecko.

Thanks again for being patient with me!
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Old Nov 6th, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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We're about to go off on a monthlong custom tour planned and booked through Asia Transpacific Journeys. They have small group tours as well, but we prefer to be on our own. We'll let you know what we think when we return after the first of the year.

www.asiatranspacific.com
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Old Nov 9th, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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After doing some reading, I think I need to back up a little and start with some simpler questions:

What is the best time of year to visit? I've read conflicting opinions and would like to get a clearer picture.

Would you also include Vietnam? My husband has expressed some interest in going there, but I am not certain about the safety factor.

How many days should we consider aa a minimum?
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Old Nov 9th, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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The best time to go is mid-November through February. It is winter and Thailand is merely really hot, not unbearable. As noted above, we used Gregg at Innovasian.com twice. It is essentially a private tour. For first time Thailand visitors, the sights are pretty much recommended by all. For two weeks (the minimum), BKK-4, Northern Thailand-4, Beach-4. Note that you lose two days travelling. If you're going to Cambodia, either add 3 days or skip Northern Thailand. To go to Vietnam, I would add at least an extra week. otherwise, you will be too rushed and will not appreciate how great Asia travel can be.
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