Hong Kong Shopping for Nock offs
Nov 4th, 2007, 06:27 PM
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Hong Kong Shopping for Nock offs
Does anyone know of any list for replica merchandise (clothes, watches, shoes) and what the prices should be?
It sure would save alot of time and energy to have a guideline to go by.
Thank you, in advance, for any information that you can give me.
It sure would save alot of time and energy to have a guideline to go by.
Thank you, in advance, for any information that you can give me.
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You can often find "seconds" of sport shirts and sneakers, which may in fact be fakes, in Stanley Market on Hong Kong Island and the Ladies Market in Kowloon. Check guidebooks for location and getting to the markets by public transport. Stanley is not open at night, the Ladies Market opens in the late morning and does tend to stay open until later in the evening.
The places below are suggestions for where you can buy REAL clothing at a discount. Some, like in the Pedder Building, may again be selling fakes as well, I am not always sure if the Chanel suits are real. (Much of the cashmere is fake, so beware). I believe that Dickson Warehouse is real but discount. Space and Lane Crawford are real but discount.
I can't give a price guide at all. Some places are fixed price, or have things in a bin for one price, in others you bargain and the price you get will depend on your skills and how badly you want it. Cash gets a better price than credit cards, if you buy a number of items you should expect a better price than if you are just buying one item. In Stanley, I find that shopkeepers do not bargain very much, I believe this is because most tourists don't know how or are reluctant to do so and will pay whatever price is mentioned by the shopkeeper. You may find the Ladies Market and night markets to be somewhat similar.
As for copy watches, I don't know why any self-respecting adult over the age of about 25 would want to wear a fake watch. REAL watches are a good buy here, they are about 10-25% less than US prices, and no tax. You can do some looking around.
1. Pedder Building
12 Pedder St, Central
(Central MTR)
The Pedder Building is about an 8-storey building smack in the middle of the business district in Central on Hong Kong Island. Shangahi Tang is located in the basement and first floor and is worth a stop (not a discount place). This building used to be full of discount shops. It still has some, mostly selling Chanel and other upmarket designers, and again in small sizes. They are mostly on the 4th and 5th floors, a few on the 6th, but if you have the patience, go to them all. The shops in this building are slowly being replaced by non-discounters, and every time I go back, something else is there (there is now a great kitchen store on the 4th floor, but you probably aren’t interested). You have to look a lot. Beware of most of the cashmere in this building as I believe it is all fake, OTHER than at the wonderful Blanc de Chine, on the second floor, which is decidedly not a discount shop.
2. Esprit Outlet
Basement
Kaiseng Commercial Centre
4 Hankow Road
Tsim Sha Tsui
Tel: 2721-3318
(about one block from the Star Ferry pier on Salisbury, the Peninsula Hotel is on the corner)
Can't really speak for the clothing part, but it appears to have a good selection; I go for the Red Earth cosmetics discount area of the shop. It is very conveniently located in Tsim Sha Tsui near the Star Ferry, the Peninsula and the Chinese Arts and Crafts Shop, so it is very easy to pop in quickly.
3. Lane Crawford Warehouse – 25th Floor
Max Mara Outlet 27th Floor
Horizon Plaza
2 Li Wing Street
Ap Lei Chau, Hong Kong Island
(near Aberdeen)
This is in a huge warehouse of mostly furniture/antique stores. Lane Crawford is an upscale Hong Kong department store and has a good size discount outlet here. It can be very hit or miss, but bargains are there are designer goods. Max Mara also has an outlet shops here and has a small but good selection, prices are quite good as well, about 1/3 of their retail store prices. You need to take a taxi, will take about 20 minutes from Central and cost about US$20. You could combine this with a trip to Aberdeen as it is not too far; this is also very close to the Prada designer outlet at Space (see below), would be about 5 minutes by taxi and cost about US$3. The Max Mara outlet is closed on Mondays
4. Space
Marina Square East
2nd Floor Commercial Block
South Horizons
Ap Lei Chau, Hong Kong Island
This is the Prada designer outlet for all its lines. You also need to take a taxi, would be about 20 minutes from Central and cost about US$20. They do have a lot of stock. You have to be a bit patient and look.
5. Lok Wah
Lok Wah City, 11 Lee Garden Road, Causeway Bay, Hong Kong (Causeway Bay MTR)
Lok Wah Bo, 193 Fa Yuen Street Lok Wah (Mong Kok MTR stop)
Top World, 175 Fa Yuen Street, Lok Wah (Mong Kok MTR stop)
Top Place, 53/55 Granville Road, Kowloon (Tsim Sha Tsui MTR Stop)
There are 4 outlets, one on Hong Kong Island and three in Kowloon. Have not been, but they apparently sell various designer brands at good prices, but you have to be lucky and hit them on a good day.
6. Kaiser Estate
Hung Hom, Kowloon
e.g. the Diane Freis outlet is 10/F, Unit A1, 41 Man Yue St
Adidas, 1st Floor, Flat G, Man Yue Street
This is one of the original discount outlet areas in Hong Kong. Take the Star Ferry to Hung Hom and then a taxi, you can also take 5 C bus from the Star Ferry piers at Hung Hom, alight when you reach Ma Tau Wai Road. You are looking for buildings on Man Yue Street, and Hok Yuen Street. This area is very industrial, its a lot of warehouses and you have to hunt around a bit. It is safe, but can be a little spooky as sometimes there are very few people around (rare for Hong Kong). Some places are closed on Saturdays, so I would go on a weekday just to get the best chance of places being open. A map of this area is helpful, your hotel may have one, or the Hong Kong tourist office may have one. You can also just take a taxi from the Star Ferry piers in Tsim Sha Tsui, cost would be less than US$10, it is pretty close. The ferry ride from Central to Hung Hom, however is quite pretty and much longer than the ferry ride between Central and TST, so will give you some good harbour views and photo opportunities.
7. Dickson Warehouse
Kowloon MTR
http://www.dicksoncyber.com/mall.htm
Carries all kinds of brand names. They tend to have all sizes, including larger Western sizes. They have a good selection of ski jackets, outerwear and sporting goods. I would say there prices are good but not fantastic, do some comparison shopping at home to make sure you recognize a good price here.
8. The Lanes on Hong Kong Island
Li Yuen East Street
Li Yuen West Street
All days until around 7 pm in the evenings
These two narrow pedestrian lanes run between Queens Road and Des Voeux Road in Central. They are just past a McDonalds on Queens Road on your right. Some designer stuff, mostly T-shirts and some knock-offs. A good bit of these lanes are being torn down, so selection may not be that great these days.
9. Jardine's' Bazaar
Sogo Department Store area – Causeway Bay MTR
Hennessey Road
This area is changing a lot, and every time I go, more little stalls are closed and are replaced by restaurants, mobile phone shops or second hand designer bag shops. But if you have the time to walk around all the little streets here and spend a few hours, there are some small shops do have designer items at good prices. You have to have patience to find bargains. Lok Wah, mentioned below under "Outlets for Clothing", is not far away on Lee Garden Street, so you could do both and spend the afternoon wandering the little shops.
10. Wan Chai to Causeway Bay
If you have the time and patience, you can walk the streets of Hennessy Road and also Johnston Road between about Landale Street and the Sogo Dept store and you will send hundreds of tiny storefront shops with racks and bins of "seconds" on sale. I have gone with veteran shoppers who have found DKNY stuff and other designer things in these shops for great prices. You really have to want to take the time to go through the shops and the bins, but you can find things if you want to do this.
Second Hand Shops
If you want to buy second hand but authentic bags like Louis Vuitton, Prada, etc, try the Milan Station shops, there are several located in Hong Kong. Take a look at – for locations. As far as I know, these bags are genuine (at least the police don’t raid them while they do raid the night markets...) Prices here are only about 20-30%% of the original prices, so still pricey but a real bargain compared to the original prices. (They are sold to the stores by the tai-tais of Hong Kong who would not, literally, be seen dead with last year’s bag....) Bargain very hard, don’t pay the list price ever, as the list price is close to the brand store price for current models, and you are buying last year’s model. The main shops are:
Milan Station
26 Wellington St
Lan Kwai Fong
Central
This is right in the heart of the bar/restaurant district and a few blocks from the Star Ferry.
Milan Station
57 Percival St
Causeway Bay
Milan Station
Room 1502
15th Floor Top Glory Tower
262 Gloucester Rd, Causeway Bay
The places below are suggestions for where you can buy REAL clothing at a discount. Some, like in the Pedder Building, may again be selling fakes as well, I am not always sure if the Chanel suits are real. (Much of the cashmere is fake, so beware). I believe that Dickson Warehouse is real but discount. Space and Lane Crawford are real but discount.
I can't give a price guide at all. Some places are fixed price, or have things in a bin for one price, in others you bargain and the price you get will depend on your skills and how badly you want it. Cash gets a better price than credit cards, if you buy a number of items you should expect a better price than if you are just buying one item. In Stanley, I find that shopkeepers do not bargain very much, I believe this is because most tourists don't know how or are reluctant to do so and will pay whatever price is mentioned by the shopkeeper. You may find the Ladies Market and night markets to be somewhat similar.
As for copy watches, I don't know why any self-respecting adult over the age of about 25 would want to wear a fake watch. REAL watches are a good buy here, they are about 10-25% less than US prices, and no tax. You can do some looking around.
1. Pedder Building
12 Pedder St, Central
(Central MTR)
The Pedder Building is about an 8-storey building smack in the middle of the business district in Central on Hong Kong Island. Shangahi Tang is located in the basement and first floor and is worth a stop (not a discount place). This building used to be full of discount shops. It still has some, mostly selling Chanel and other upmarket designers, and again in small sizes. They are mostly on the 4th and 5th floors, a few on the 6th, but if you have the patience, go to them all. The shops in this building are slowly being replaced by non-discounters, and every time I go back, something else is there (there is now a great kitchen store on the 4th floor, but you probably aren’t interested). You have to look a lot. Beware of most of the cashmere in this building as I believe it is all fake, OTHER than at the wonderful Blanc de Chine, on the second floor, which is decidedly not a discount shop.
2. Esprit Outlet
Basement
Kaiseng Commercial Centre
4 Hankow Road
Tsim Sha Tsui
Tel: 2721-3318
(about one block from the Star Ferry pier on Salisbury, the Peninsula Hotel is on the corner)
Can't really speak for the clothing part, but it appears to have a good selection; I go for the Red Earth cosmetics discount area of the shop. It is very conveniently located in Tsim Sha Tsui near the Star Ferry, the Peninsula and the Chinese Arts and Crafts Shop, so it is very easy to pop in quickly.
3. Lane Crawford Warehouse – 25th Floor
Max Mara Outlet 27th Floor
Horizon Plaza
2 Li Wing Street
Ap Lei Chau, Hong Kong Island
(near Aberdeen)
This is in a huge warehouse of mostly furniture/antique stores. Lane Crawford is an upscale Hong Kong department store and has a good size discount outlet here. It can be very hit or miss, but bargains are there are designer goods. Max Mara also has an outlet shops here and has a small but good selection, prices are quite good as well, about 1/3 of their retail store prices. You need to take a taxi, will take about 20 minutes from Central and cost about US$20. You could combine this with a trip to Aberdeen as it is not too far; this is also very close to the Prada designer outlet at Space (see below), would be about 5 minutes by taxi and cost about US$3. The Max Mara outlet is closed on Mondays
4. Space
Marina Square East
2nd Floor Commercial Block
South Horizons
Ap Lei Chau, Hong Kong Island
This is the Prada designer outlet for all its lines. You also need to take a taxi, would be about 20 minutes from Central and cost about US$20. They do have a lot of stock. You have to be a bit patient and look.
5. Lok Wah
Lok Wah City, 11 Lee Garden Road, Causeway Bay, Hong Kong (Causeway Bay MTR)
Lok Wah Bo, 193 Fa Yuen Street Lok Wah (Mong Kok MTR stop)
Top World, 175 Fa Yuen Street, Lok Wah (Mong Kok MTR stop)
Top Place, 53/55 Granville Road, Kowloon (Tsim Sha Tsui MTR Stop)
There are 4 outlets, one on Hong Kong Island and three in Kowloon. Have not been, but they apparently sell various designer brands at good prices, but you have to be lucky and hit them on a good day.
6. Kaiser Estate
Hung Hom, Kowloon
e.g. the Diane Freis outlet is 10/F, Unit A1, 41 Man Yue St
Adidas, 1st Floor, Flat G, Man Yue Street
This is one of the original discount outlet areas in Hong Kong. Take the Star Ferry to Hung Hom and then a taxi, you can also take 5 C bus from the Star Ferry piers at Hung Hom, alight when you reach Ma Tau Wai Road. You are looking for buildings on Man Yue Street, and Hok Yuen Street. This area is very industrial, its a lot of warehouses and you have to hunt around a bit. It is safe, but can be a little spooky as sometimes there are very few people around (rare for Hong Kong). Some places are closed on Saturdays, so I would go on a weekday just to get the best chance of places being open. A map of this area is helpful, your hotel may have one, or the Hong Kong tourist office may have one. You can also just take a taxi from the Star Ferry piers in Tsim Sha Tsui, cost would be less than US$10, it is pretty close. The ferry ride from Central to Hung Hom, however is quite pretty and much longer than the ferry ride between Central and TST, so will give you some good harbour views and photo opportunities.
7. Dickson Warehouse
Kowloon MTR
http://www.dicksoncyber.com/mall.htm
Carries all kinds of brand names. They tend to have all sizes, including larger Western sizes. They have a good selection of ski jackets, outerwear and sporting goods. I would say there prices are good but not fantastic, do some comparison shopping at home to make sure you recognize a good price here.
8. The Lanes on Hong Kong Island
Li Yuen East Street
Li Yuen West Street
All days until around 7 pm in the evenings
These two narrow pedestrian lanes run between Queens Road and Des Voeux Road in Central. They are just past a McDonalds on Queens Road on your right. Some designer stuff, mostly T-shirts and some knock-offs. A good bit of these lanes are being torn down, so selection may not be that great these days.
9. Jardine's' Bazaar
Sogo Department Store area – Causeway Bay MTR
Hennessey Road
This area is changing a lot, and every time I go, more little stalls are closed and are replaced by restaurants, mobile phone shops or second hand designer bag shops. But if you have the time to walk around all the little streets here and spend a few hours, there are some small shops do have designer items at good prices. You have to have patience to find bargains. Lok Wah, mentioned below under "Outlets for Clothing", is not far away on Lee Garden Street, so you could do both and spend the afternoon wandering the little shops.
10. Wan Chai to Causeway Bay
If you have the time and patience, you can walk the streets of Hennessy Road and also Johnston Road between about Landale Street and the Sogo Dept store and you will send hundreds of tiny storefront shops with racks and bins of "seconds" on sale. I have gone with veteran shoppers who have found DKNY stuff and other designer things in these shops for great prices. You really have to want to take the time to go through the shops and the bins, but you can find things if you want to do this.
Second Hand Shops
If you want to buy second hand but authentic bags like Louis Vuitton, Prada, etc, try the Milan Station shops, there are several located in Hong Kong. Take a look at – for locations. As far as I know, these bags are genuine (at least the police don’t raid them while they do raid the night markets...) Prices here are only about 20-30%% of the original prices, so still pricey but a real bargain compared to the original prices. (They are sold to the stores by the tai-tais of Hong Kong who would not, literally, be seen dead with last year’s bag....) Bargain very hard, don’t pay the list price ever, as the list price is close to the brand store price for current models, and you are buying last year’s model. The main shops are:
Milan Station
26 Wellington St
Lan Kwai Fong
Central
This is right in the heart of the bar/restaurant district and a few blocks from the Star Ferry.
Milan Station
57 Percival St
Causeway Bay
Milan Station
Room 1502
15th Floor Top Glory Tower
262 Gloucester Rd, Causeway Bay
Nov 4th, 2007, 09:35 PM
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Locals go up to Shenzhen to buy knockoffs.
But if you walk around the Ladies' Market in Mongkok at night, you may find people who photo catalogs of their goods. They'll then tell you where to look at the actual stuff and do the transaction.
You won't find good quality branded knockoffs on the streets.
Also, police raids can happen while you're up at those "apartments". A few weeks ago, some Korean tourists were picked up by police during such a raid, but they were let go after questioning. The police/customs don't go after the buyers.
But if you walk around the Ladies' Market in Mongkok at night, you may find people who photo catalogs of their goods. They'll then tell you where to look at the actual stuff and do the transaction.
You won't find good quality branded knockoffs on the streets.
Also, police raids can happen while you're up at those "apartments". A few weeks ago, some Korean tourists were picked up by police during such a raid, but they were let go after questioning. The police/customs don't go after the buyers.
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thank you all for your replies and suggestions. I was able to purchase Replica clothing such as North Face, Armani, Kenneth Cole, Tommy Bahama etc. etc. in Shanghai, but I am stopping for 5 days in Hong Kong, and would like to purchase similar items. I was just wondering, for instance, what would be the fair price of a North Face Jacket, or a tee shirt. If there was a list of what would be the fair value of the item, it would make bargaining so less draining, and make me feel better about being gouged.
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As a self respecting adult over 25 I have been buying and wearing copy watches for the past 5 years. I have several expensive watches in my jewellery box but since travelling to Asia several times over the past 5 years I have purchased multiple copy watches which are still looking good and working after 2 years. Why would I bother paying hundreds for a "good' watch when I can get a copy for $5. 
