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Old Jul 4th, 2009, 12:28 PM
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Use discretion if people have to take the Longsheng village excursion to see ethnic group and terrace rice.

Years ago I had been trying to kick off the tour.
I had to stop after a couple of traffic accidents with casualties.

They took place after heavy rain.
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Old Jul 4th, 2009, 12:34 PM
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I think we are going to start building our own ark here in the midwest. Rain-rain-rain.

Hanuman, you and your family enjoy yourselves. Relax, shop, drink some wine, eat great food, chill out... you know, be on a vacation!

Happy 4th everyone.
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Old Jul 4th, 2009, 02:12 PM
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cat1234,

Thanks for the warning and your advice. We are not risk takers when it come to safety. It was flooded knee deep when we arrived on Friday night but the water has receded the next morning and now there are no sign of the flood. Here are some update from Guilin:

Elephant trunk hill closed due to flooding. Walking street, shops, restaurants are all open. Li River cruise openning as of today. The 4 lake cruise, great night cruise, open. Longsheng open upon the discretion of the driver or guide but we are not going. Yao moutain plus all of the caves are open.

The weather has cleared up nicely but the temperature is still a bit cool for us since we were not prepared for the it.

Ken & Carol,

Yes we are relaxing thank you and a nice trip so far. Food around here is quite good but the massages are expensive compared to Thailand. Off to breakfast and another day out on the town.
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Old Jul 4th, 2009, 02:28 PM
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Correction - the elephant trunk hill is closed due to the HIGH water level on the Li river not flooding.
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If you go out from the door of Sheraton Guilin facing river side, make a left, either the first or second block, make another left, keep going I think it’s the first block again, you make a right, keep going another 2 or 3 minutes, there are tons of massage parlors not sex related.
They only charge about 15 to 20 rmb per hour.
Some run by the blind people.

If you are using the business center internet next to conciege, again go out from the door of Sheraton Guilin facing river side, make a left, in 10 minutes, you will come to a bridge called liberation bridge.
Cross liberation bridge, at the end of the bridge, on the left hand side, there is an internet café at the basement of the short building, the place was one time an air raid shelter in the 1960s.

Guilin is a good place for small gifts, table clothes, machine made embroidery, fake jades or cheap luggage bags
available in the nite market.

The "Professors" galleries are tourist traps.

There are also double deck buses for tourists on the main street, Zhong Shan Lu.

A free waterfall show every nite at 8:15pm at the waterfall hotel by the city square.

The shopping arcade under city square is worth to take a look, not much for tourist to buy though.
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 02:16 AM
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thanks Cat. We found it and it only cost 25 CNY per hour!
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Chinese tour directors/guide would never tell people to go to this low cost place in China because there is no kick back.

They usually send people to a massage place located at the right hand corner in front of the "walking street", if walking out from the side door of Sheraton Guilin.

That place charge about 100 to 120 rmb per hour, the Chinese tour director/guide get 50 or 60 rmb kick back.

Let me just copy & paste from what I just wrote on another topic in this forum.

"I am convinced with Peter N-H in this forum that people should travel by themselves in China without going thru tour agents.

It is easy to make hotel reservations on line.

All Chinese airports has public transportations to downtown.
Street cab, subway, public bus, mini bus are all over.

Moreover, stay away from the Chinese tour operators, Chinese tour directors/guides as far as possible to avoid rip off and waste a lot of travel time in scamming shopping stops.

Those who still want to join group tour should pick up tour companies sending along a tour director from your home country, not one from Shanghai or Beijing, to accompany trip members and to supplement local guides.
This is worth paying more for.

Some guides might make up stories like people were robbed or picked pocket with passport stolen in the area so their chickens would stay in the farm. They would sell some optional tours instead."
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 12:01 PM
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Chinese tour directors/guide would never tell people to go to this low cost place in China because there is no kick back.

They usually send people to a massage place located at the right hand corner in front of the "walking street", if walking out from the side door of Sheraton Guilin.

That place charge about 100 to 120 rmb per hour, the Chinese tour director/guide get 50 or 60 rmb kick back.

Chinese tour directors/guide would never tell people to go to this low cost place in China because there is no kick back.

They usually send people to a massage place located at the right hand corner in front of the "walking street", if walking out from the side door of Sheraton Guilin.

That place charge about 100 to 120 rmb per hour, the Chinese tour director/guide get 50 or 60 rmb kick back.

Let me just copy & paste from what I just wrote on another topic in this forum.

"I am convinced with Peter N-H in this forum that people should travel by themselves in China without going thru tour agents.

It is easy to make hotel reservations on line.

All Chinese airports has public transportations to downtown.
Street cab, subway, public bus, mini bus are all over.

Moreover, stay away from the Chinese tour operators, Chinese tour directors/guides as far as possible to avoid rip off and waste a lot of travel time in scamming shopping stops.

Those who still want to join group tour should pick up tour companies sending along a tour director from your home country, not one from Shanghai or Beijing, to accompany trip members and to supplement local guides.
This is worth paying more for.

Some guides might make up stories like people were robbed or picked pocket with passport stolen in the area so their chickens would stay in the farm. They would sell some optional tours instead."

Let me just copy & paste from what I just wrote on another topic in this forum.

"I am convinced with Peter N-H in this forum that people should travel by themselves in China without going thru tour agents.

It is easy to make hotel reservations on line.

All Chinese airports has public transportations to downtown.
Street cab, subway, public bus, mini bus are all over.

Moreover, stay away from the Chinese tour operators, Chinese tour directors/guides as far as possible to avoid rip off and waste a lot of travel time in scamming shopping stops.

Those who still want to join group tour should pick up tour companies sending along a tour director from your home country, not one from Shanghai or Beijing, to accompany trip members and to supplement local guides.
This is worth paying more for."
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 12:04 PM
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Hanuman, Sorry for the mess and take up your space.
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 02:36 PM
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Cat,

We're here on our own no guide just past reviews from Fodorites and TA plus advices from people like your self. Off to Yangshuo today. Weather lovely now.
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I hope the good weather holds for you!
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Most likely you want to see the Sanjie Liu show.
The theater is an open area.
Bring mosquito repellent with you.
Free raincoat will be provided.
It won't rain!
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Old Jul 5th, 2009, 04:18 PM
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Ha ha I hope you're right that it wouldn't rain!

Kathie - nice for us is lightly scattered clouds and temperature in the mid to low 20s. Not too good for taking photographs but good for us.
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