Help Kathie plan her return to Burma
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Kathie, The Sedona really doesn't seem to have much around in walking distance. It's on a main drag. But it worked well for us since we didn't really want to do much in Mandalay itself. I think you could do all three cities in one day, but you might not see U Bein Bridge at the right time. It's worth getting there before sunset, taking a boat and taking lots of photos!
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Hi Kathie, we chatted a while ago about "fast boats to Mrauk Oo" and concluded that it was not for us...Remember? That river trip is apparently pretty nice and allow for interesting "river life" viewing opportunities if taken at a gentle pace.We will be doing that trip in January and will eagerly wait for your comments about the Chin villages(if you decide to do that). In Sitwe,apparently the Shwe Thazin Hotel is "the" only place to stay and I will be waiting for your comments also on that.
To weigh in with my 2 cents,in Rangoon, the Savoy is "the Strand without the price" as someone has put it...and in Mandalay,we stayed at the Hotel on the Red Canal, a "boutique" hotel,very nice and quiet,well run by a friendly staff.Friends who stayed at the Sedona regretted it...Everybody's perception is different though,so,hard to say...You really should try to spend a day in Bago.It really is not that far from Rangoon and worth the detour.If you want I can recommend you a great guide who will drive you there.He is very reasonable and knowledgable. Stops on the road, in villages, are very interesting also.
To weigh in with my 2 cents,in Rangoon, the Savoy is "the Strand without the price" as someone has put it...and in Mandalay,we stayed at the Hotel on the Red Canal, a "boutique" hotel,very nice and quiet,well run by a friendly staff.Friends who stayed at the Sedona regretted it...Everybody's perception is different though,so,hard to say...You really should try to spend a day in Bago.It really is not that far from Rangoon and worth the detour.If you want I can recommend you a great guide who will drive you there.He is very reasonable and knowledgable. Stops on the road, in villages, are very interesting also.
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Hi cestgaston, yes, I remember our conversation about the "fast boat" and in no way am I looking for the fast boat. I'd prefer not to use the government boat, but since it only runs twice a week, I'll have no problem avoiding that. I'd heard via the grapevine that the Mrauk U Princess had it's own boat - still four hours, but supposed to be very nice. I am yet to get any confirmation of that. I'd also concluded that if we have to stay in Sittwe, it will be at the Shwe Thazin Hotel. WHether or not we have to stay in SIttwe depends on the airline schedule. If a morning flight is running, we can get to Mrauk U for dinner. If not, we stay in Sittwe. Frustratingly, the schedule apparently changes on whim.
At this point, we've decided against the Chin villages.
Further research on hotels in Mandalay has crossed the Sedone off the list. A friend stayed at the Hotel on teh Red Canal and didn't like it, but it and the Rupar Mandalar look to be the only two boutique hotels in Mandalay.
Thanks for your comments, cestagaston.
At this point, we've decided against the Chin villages.
Further research on hotels in Mandalay has crossed the Sedone off the list. A friend stayed at the Hotel on teh Red Canal and didn't like it, but it and the Rupar Mandalar look to be the only two boutique hotels in Mandalay.
Thanks for your comments, cestagaston.
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Kathie I can't remember if I mentioned it but we did see the Princess boat & it did look lovely.
We stayed in Sittwe at Shwe Thazin. It was fine. Nothing special. They were doing renovaitons when we were there so it may be different now. Did not see anywhere else to stay though!
We stayed in Sittwe at Shwe Thazin. It was fine. Nothing special. They were doing renovaitons when we were there so it may be different now. Did not see anywhere else to stay though!
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Another vote for the Mandalay City hotel. Great position in the centre of town BUT its only 3 star at best and I think you like a bit better.
While in Mandalay try the resturant 'A Taste of Mandalay", we had an excellent lunch there.
I agree that the the trip to Pyin U Lwin is better than the destination, however the gardens etc around the town are excellent.
The ancient cities to me were the highlight of our trip, probably because I had seen Bagan, Inle etc before. I hope you enjoy them as much as we did.
While in Mandalay try the resturant 'A Taste of Mandalay", we had an excellent lunch there.
I agree that the the trip to Pyin U Lwin is better than the destination, however the gardens etc around the town are excellent.
The ancient cities to me were the highlight of our trip, probably because I had seen Bagan, Inle etc before. I hope you enjoy them as much as we did.
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I know Pyin U Lwin as Maymyo. It took me a while to realize I've been there. It's not very thrilling, but if you like gardens, it's a good one, full of actual, real-live Burmese doing normal family things. So, far that, it's worth it. I'm struggling to think of anything else. But, in the most ordinary of places there are gems. Sometimes the very ordinaryness IS the gem.
You can also ride around in a gaily decorated horse buggy thing, which I liked. You have to tweak your mind to George Orwell era. Then the details are fun.
You can also ride around in a gaily decorated horse buggy thing, which I liked. You have to tweak your mind to George Orwell era. Then the details are fun.
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gmoz, I am very much looking forward to the ancient cities. I would like to have gone last trip, but we just didn't have the time. And thanks for the restaurant recommendation.
dogster, I think of most cities in Burma by their old names, but because I read The Weeping Goldsmith (a botanist's account of Burma and of the gardens at Pyin U Lwin/Maymo), I think of it as Pyin U Lwin as that is the name he used. I may go back and re-read George Orwell before this trip.
Thanks to all for your comments. I emailed Zaw our proposed itinerary last night.
We'll have 2 and a half days in Mandalay, a half a day in city, likely for crafts shopping, a full day at the ancient cities, and a full day to Pyin U Lwin.
Then we'll fly to Bagan, have a day and a half there. We'll have time (I hope) for late afternoon at the temples and a chance for Cheryl to take more sunset photos of the temples. Then we will have a whole day of temples. I'm going to ask Min Thu for his recommendations on where to go. It may be that we will go farther afield to see temples we haven't seen.
We have to fly to Yangon for an overnight, then to Sittwe. We will have to have a night in SIttwe either on the way in or the way out, it appears, in order to get to Mrauk U. We will have three nights at Mrauk U. Then we fly back to Yangon for two nights.
Because Mrauk U is a priority, it drove the rest of the itinerary. Getting to/from Mrauk U is complicated and time consuming. But I expect the experience will be well worth it.
dogster, I think of most cities in Burma by their old names, but because I read The Weeping Goldsmith (a botanist's account of Burma and of the gardens at Pyin U Lwin/Maymo), I think of it as Pyin U Lwin as that is the name he used. I may go back and re-read George Orwell before this trip.
Thanks to all for your comments. I emailed Zaw our proposed itinerary last night.
We'll have 2 and a half days in Mandalay, a half a day in city, likely for crafts shopping, a full day at the ancient cities, and a full day to Pyin U Lwin.
Then we'll fly to Bagan, have a day and a half there. We'll have time (I hope) for late afternoon at the temples and a chance for Cheryl to take more sunset photos of the temples. Then we will have a whole day of temples. I'm going to ask Min Thu for his recommendations on where to go. It may be that we will go farther afield to see temples we haven't seen.
We have to fly to Yangon for an overnight, then to Sittwe. We will have to have a night in SIttwe either on the way in or the way out, it appears, in order to get to Mrauk U. We will have three nights at Mrauk U. Then we fly back to Yangon for two nights.
Because Mrauk U is a priority, it drove the rest of the itinerary. Getting to/from Mrauk U is complicated and time consuming. But I expect the experience will be well worth it.
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Kathie-Your itinerary looks good to me. The only thing you are doing that I have read mixed reviews about is Pin U Lwin. I understand you are going mainly to see the botanical garden, but if it were my choice, which it is not, I'd opt for the boat trip to Mingun instead . I am only saying this based on what I have read, so I might be completely wrong.
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Some of our hotel choices are booked up. We will have the chance to try out the Savoy on our one night in Yangon between Bagan and Mrauk U. I'm glad to get a chance to do a comparison.
We are hoping the one full night at Rupar Mandalar will come through for us. The other recommendation from Santa Maria is Mandalay Hill Resort. Anyone have any experience with that one?
We wanted to be in a riverview room at the Thiripysaya Sanctuary in Bagan, but those rooms are full. We can splurge on a river view suite, but it's $240 a night...
All in all, it's a few minor details to work out.
We are hoping the one full night at Rupar Mandalar will come through for us. The other recommendation from Santa Maria is Mandalay Hill Resort. Anyone have any experience with that one?
We wanted to be in a riverview room at the Thiripysaya Sanctuary in Bagan, but those rooms are full. We can splurge on a river view suite, but it's $240 a night...
All in all, it's a few minor details to work out.
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Hi Kathie
Quick question - we had booked the Hotel at Tharabar Gate in Bagan - but now see you are staying at the Thiripysaya Sanctuary - and also noted that was a recommended hotel by Indagare. What is your opinion as to where to stay for a first visit. It is our anniversary - currently have a suite booked at Tharabar Gate.
Quick question - we had booked the Hotel at Tharabar Gate in Bagan - but now see you are staying at the Thiripysaya Sanctuary - and also noted that was a recommended hotel by Indagare. What is your opinion as to where to stay for a first visit. It is our anniversary - currently have a suite booked at Tharabar Gate.
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The location of the Tharbar gate is perfect. The suites are huge, with lovely, modern baths, and you have a private patio where you can sit in the sun or shade and have a room service lunch. The only downside to the Tharbar gate is how big it is. You may run into French or Italian or German tour groups staying there.
For a time (years ago) Thiripysaya was THE place to stay in Bagan. In recent years, reviews have described the rooms as "tired." The location is beautiful, right on the river, inside the archaeological zone. We saw the public areas of the hotel in 2009, and they seemed nice. The hotel is closing for a month or two this summer to renovate, so we are hoping the rooms will look great when we are there. We ended up deciding to splurge on the riverview suite.
We haven't seen the rooms at Thiripysaya, so I can't give you a first-hand comparison.
For a time (years ago) Thiripysaya was THE place to stay in Bagan. In recent years, reviews have described the rooms as "tired." The location is beautiful, right on the river, inside the archaeological zone. We saw the public areas of the hotel in 2009, and they seemed nice. The hotel is closing for a month or two this summer to renovate, so we are hoping the rooms will look great when we are there. We ended up deciding to splurge on the riverview suite.
We haven't seen the rooms at Thiripysaya, so I can't give you a first-hand comparison.
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Some follow-up on our planning: We were able to get the Rupar Mandalar for our three nights in Mandalay. The current high season airline schedule makes it look like we can fly to Sittwe and get to Mrauk U the same day. That will mean we actually have 4 nights in Mrauk U, three full days.
At the last minute, I decided I wanted another night in Yangon at the end. Too late - the Strand is fully booked, and I did't want to bother with changing hotels for one night, so we'll stick with what we had.
BTW, when I checked on flights between Bangkok and Yangon, Thai Air economy is totally sold out for many of the days.
At the last minute, I decided I wanted another night in Yangon at the end. Too late - the Strand is fully booked, and I did't want to bother with changing hotels for one night, so we'll stick with what we had.
BTW, when I checked on flights between Bangkok and Yangon, Thai Air economy is totally sold out for many of the days.

