Chronicles from the Caucasus
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Thanks people! Nice to know someone's reading! Congestion has turned into a cold - I don't think cold and wet agree with me. Unfortunately it's raining again here in Borjomi - I'm hoping for dry tomorrow when I go to the cave city of Vardzia. Would be lovely mountain place otherwise. Hotel found me a portable heater, so I should be warm tonight.
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Wow, what a day! I had a car and driver for the two hour drive to the "cave city" at Vardzia. (That is, elderly driver in an elderly car.) This is serious mountain territory, rugged and remote, but gorgeous, even in the rain. Yes, it was raining. Some patches of good road, more not.
15 min into the trip, driving past a particularly rugged slope, a boulder breaks loose - misses us by millimeters! 90 min into the trip, oncoming traffic has white patches, driver says something that sounds like "snake". Round the next bend or so - snow!!! It's September still... It wasn't sticking to the road, so I didn't call the trip off - the higher slopes that weren't covered in cloud were well dusted, and those lovely northern pines with the sweeping branches were nicely coated. Just before Vardzia it went back to light rain. After I manage not to fall down navigating the site, and we stop for bite to eat, we have a flat tire. Then an emergency stop when an old guy standing in the middle of the road doesn't react to the horn (this is definitely a horn country).
I'm treating myself to a slightly splurge hotel in Tbilisi tomorrow (Villa Mtiebe) - I may only go out to eat! (http://www.hotelmtiebi.ge/welcome.htm)
15 min into the trip, driving past a particularly rugged slope, a boulder breaks loose - misses us by millimeters! 90 min into the trip, oncoming traffic has white patches, driver says something that sounds like "snake". Round the next bend or so - snow!!! It's September still... It wasn't sticking to the road, so I didn't call the trip off - the higher slopes that weren't covered in cloud were well dusted, and those lovely northern pines with the sweeping branches were nicely coated. Just before Vardzia it went back to light rain. After I manage not to fall down navigating the site, and we stop for bite to eat, we have a flat tire. Then an emergency stop when an old guy standing in the middle of the road doesn't react to the horn (this is definitely a horn country).
I'm treating myself to a slightly splurge hotel in Tbilisi tomorrow (Villa Mtiebe) - I may only go out to eat! (http://www.hotelmtiebi.ge/welcome.htm)
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Snow on top of everything else! I have looked you up on google maps and they don't even show roads in Georgia. The link to the hotel didn't work but I hope it lived up to expectations. You sounds like you need a bit of splurge.
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Hi gertie - I know, can't think why google maps doesn't show roads in Georgia but does for Armenia, next door! I'll be in that hotel tomorrow - take the ending parenthesis off the link and it should work.
I just posted this to my blog, but for those not following the blog, who haven't thought much about Georgia, I'll copy it here:
"...why the Caucasus? For me, two reasons: mountains and the Silk Road. I first seriously considered visiting when I planned my 2004 round-the-world trip, but it didn't fit with the railway theme. But I didn't forget those mountains.
This time, wanting to visit the western end of the Silk Road, I did some more research. Turns out, this area was inhabited long, long before the Silk Road. It's part of the "Cradle of Civilization", in on the development of pottery, agriculture and metallurgy (and, no doubt, warfare). Unfortunately, it went from cradle to crossroads, all the neighboring empires (and there have been plenty) have come, seen, and conquered. Much of the time, eastern and western Georgia were ruled by different empires, although I haven't noticed any special differences, I haven't been here very long. Georgia's golden age seems to have been during the rule of King David the Builder (1085-1125) and Queen Tamar (1184-1213
The docent in the Fine Arts Museum in Tbilisi assured her sceptical audience that at one time Georgia ruled territory that included Egypt. She got a more sympathetic hearing when she pointed out the the historic northern border ran along the heights of the Caucasus - putting South Ossetia firmly in Georgia's sphere of influence. (Abkhazia wasn't mentioned.)
Armenia was the first nation converted to Christianity, and despite waves of Muslim invaders, and incorporation into the Ottoman Empire, both Georgia and Armenia retain their distinctive brands of Orthodox Catholicism (they were otherwise occupied during some of the critical synods). The atheistic Soviets seem to have done the most damage to the religious infrastructure, and many of Georgia's churches are in sad shape - but there is plenty of renovation underway.
Although I take issue with some of Lonely Planet's more lyrical flights of descriptive fantasy, and I hate being rained on, I have found the trip interesting so far. And the mountains, what I have seen of them, are indeed worth visiting."
I just posted this to my blog, but for those not following the blog, who haven't thought much about Georgia, I'll copy it here:
"...why the Caucasus? For me, two reasons: mountains and the Silk Road. I first seriously considered visiting when I planned my 2004 round-the-world trip, but it didn't fit with the railway theme. But I didn't forget those mountains.
This time, wanting to visit the western end of the Silk Road, I did some more research. Turns out, this area was inhabited long, long before the Silk Road. It's part of the "Cradle of Civilization", in on the development of pottery, agriculture and metallurgy (and, no doubt, warfare). Unfortunately, it went from cradle to crossroads, all the neighboring empires (and there have been plenty) have come, seen, and conquered. Much of the time, eastern and western Georgia were ruled by different empires, although I haven't noticed any special differences, I haven't been here very long. Georgia's golden age seems to have been during the rule of King David the Builder (1085-1125) and Queen Tamar (1184-1213
The docent in the Fine Arts Museum in Tbilisi assured her sceptical audience that at one time Georgia ruled territory that included Egypt. She got a more sympathetic hearing when she pointed out the the historic northern border ran along the heights of the Caucasus - putting South Ossetia firmly in Georgia's sphere of influence. (Abkhazia wasn't mentioned.)
Armenia was the first nation converted to Christianity, and despite waves of Muslim invaders, and incorporation into the Ottoman Empire, both Georgia and Armenia retain their distinctive brands of Orthodox Catholicism (they were otherwise occupied during some of the critical synods). The atheistic Soviets seem to have done the most damage to the religious infrastructure, and many of Georgia's churches are in sad shape - but there is plenty of renovation underway.
Although I take issue with some of Lonely Planet's more lyrical flights of descriptive fantasy, and I hate being rained on, I have found the trip interesting so far. And the mountains, what I have seen of them, are indeed worth visiting."
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Last year I saw an exhibition of the Golden Graves of Vani.
Vani was a religious and administrative center in the ancient kingdom of Colchis, in the present-day Republic of Georgia. It has been regularly excavated since the 1940s, and its graves have turned up ancient jewelry, sculpture, and a variety of vessels associated with the making and ritual consumption of wine. (Colchis, which is known from Greek mythology as the land where Jason went in search of the Golden Fleece, was in fact, as the myth suggests, very rich in gold.)
It was quite staggering in riches and history.
Vani was a religious and administrative center in the ancient kingdom of Colchis, in the present-day Republic of Georgia. It has been regularly excavated since the 1940s, and its graves have turned up ancient jewelry, sculpture, and a variety of vessels associated with the making and ritual consumption of wine. (Colchis, which is known from Greek mythology as the land where Jason went in search of the Golden Fleece, was in fact, as the myth suggests, very rich in gold.)
It was quite staggering in riches and history.
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Batumi has a very tall pedestal with a statue of Medea and the golden fleece - the fleece is golden. Unfortunately, the museums were more than a bit disappointing. One of them had lots of stuffed animals in cases - last time I saw anything like that was in Ulaan Baator, but at least they were arranged in dioramas.
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Arrived in Vanadzor, Armenia, yesterday. Got my visa at the border quickly, no problems. However, a Taiwanese guy on the same marshrutka took FOREVER. A nun on the same marshrutka didn't make it at all. The Taiwanese said she had too many Russian stamps in her passport. Apparently the Armenians are working on better relations with the west rather than Russia. There are talks right now on opening the border with Turkey (although Azerbaijan wants their issues with Armenia resolved first).
First impression - signage, buildings, people - is that Armenia feels much more Russian than Georgia did. Georgia, despite the lack of development (you know a country needs work when you see a sign about "Polish aid"), felt European. Armenia feels Russian, although the people on the streets aren't as dour.
Today I took a taxi back up the road towards the Georgian border (couldn't see much from the marshrutka) to visit Debed Canyon and some old churches. Great scenery! But taxis here use their meters, even for a trip like that! In Georgia you negotiated up-front, or just paid the going rate in town if you knew it (2 GEL in Telavi, 3 or 4 in Tbilisi, or 5 or 6 TO (FROM more difficult) the bus stations.
I just put the second Batumi piece up on the blog, but I'm having difficulty posting pix.
First impression - signage, buildings, people - is that Armenia feels much more Russian than Georgia did. Georgia, despite the lack of development (you know a country needs work when you see a sign about "Polish aid"), felt European. Armenia feels Russian, although the people on the streets aren't as dour.
Today I took a taxi back up the road towards the Georgian border (couldn't see much from the marshrutka) to visit Debed Canyon and some old churches. Great scenery! But taxis here use their meters, even for a trip like that! In Georgia you negotiated up-front, or just paid the going rate in town if you knew it (2 GEL in Telavi, 3 or 4 in Tbilisi, or 5 or 6 TO (FROM more difficult) the bus stations.
I just put the second Batumi piece up on the blog, but I'm having difficulty posting pix.
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Am now in Aleppo. Internet access has been really problematic this whole trip and is super-slow here. My journal is up-to-date, I'm up-to-date on twitter, but the blog is way behind. First impression of Armenia pretty much confirmed - good tree-covered mountains in the north, much drier in the south, people more relaxed and friendlier in Georgia. Good kachkars in Armenia - stone crosses - elaborate carvings on big stone slabs.
I need to go back to Georgia for the high Caucasus I missed out on this trip - especially now I know it's easier to get there than LP suggests - lots of Israeli tourists going up - but probably not to Armenia.
Will post on the rest of the trip on the Africa board, but surprised to find lots of tourists in Syria - not Americans, I think, but lots of Europeans. Aleppo is packed tight, and I counted 8 big tour buses outside St. Simeon's (very impresive) church today.s
I need to go back to Georgia for the high Caucasus I missed out on this trip - especially now I know it's easier to get there than LP suggests - lots of Israeli tourists going up - but probably not to Armenia.
Will post on the rest of the trip on the Africa board, but surprised to find lots of tourists in Syria - not Americans, I think, but lots of Europeans. Aleppo is packed tight, and I counted 8 big tour buses outside St. Simeon's (very impresive) church today.s
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Nice to hear from you. Saw Apamea and Krak des Chevaliers today - both great sites. Really felt the reach and power of the Roman Empire at Apamea. This is the wrong board - but consider Syria - for the sights, not so much the cities - dun-colored and poor inner cities, posh expensive houses on the outskirts, so far.

