how do you get "bumped up" to first class.

Sep 26th, 2000, 10:01 AM
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Laruen,
I hope you don't get discouraged on travel or using this and other forums. It does not sound like you are discouraged, but the attacks were oddly unprovoked. I personally love some of the entertaining responses, and understand they are entertainment.

Some of the attitudes about not earning an upgrade reminds me of the time a group of us ate at at Benehana (sp?) like place in Salt Lake City. As we got friendly with others there, travel became the topic. All of us road warriers had frequent flier miles, and often were upgraded. One woman from Cedar City said to another member of our group (without knowing all of us were together) that we were all rich. We flew first class. We all chuckle about this story even years later.
 
Sep 26th, 2000, 10:13 AM
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I am here for entertainment purposes too.
 
Sep 27th, 2000, 12:30 PM
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Gracey---

Like Eloise said, there's no way to make a comparison between what you said and being upgraded on a plane. It's like apples and oranges.

Elosie--

Thanks for your professional input and support for all the "horrible upgraders!" Upgrades are a great way to help customer satisfaction. Also, another thing they do is show someone what the difference is and if it's worth the money. It's like receiving a free sample of shampoo with toothpaste. I would have never bought the expensive shampoo, but I got it for free and now I love it!!

Some Flier---

I take all the insults in jest. No one is going to ruin any traveling for me. I'd enjoy my trip to Europe even if I had to ride in the cargo bay!!

Me--

What can I say...*sitting in my PC chair laughing* Are we having fun yet?
 
Sep 27th, 2000, 12:38 PM
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I think Lauren is trying to whore her way into first class. We don't need that kind of element.
 
Sep 28th, 2000, 04:17 AM
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ME-Airlines today are overbooked. There are seldom any empty seats left especially on routes which funnel into their hubs.

As for empty seats in first class-The first priority is to Premier or Elite class frequent flyer status. These flyers will often change planes and put their names on lists so they can be upgraded.

Lauren-As for those of us who fly frequently not having "earned" the right to be upgraded, I was seeing red at that statement. Contrary to popular belief, business travel is not glamourous or exciting. Sometimes I am given 1 days notice that I have to fly to some backwater hole in the wall for business. I have to live out of a suitcase, eat meals on the run, work 12-14 hours a day and go back to a strange bed and try to sleep! I often miss my kids soccer games , piano recitals and plays. Plus, I have to deal with airline delays, due to weather or mechanical, pilot strikes, flight attendant strikes, lost baggage, chatty seat mates while I am trying to do my paperwork etc. Business travelers do not get supersaver coach rates that leisure travelers pay. We are socked for the full coach fare or pay business class fares! One of the few "perks" we get as a result of working 12-14 hours a day and traveling is to get upgraded! Also, there are a lot of independent consultants and business owners who pay their own fares and do not have their company reimbursing them! A friend of mine works for a large banking conglomerate charges his travel on his corporate American Express. He pays the bill and his company will reimburse him months later. He is still responsible for paying the bill on time.

With all the cutbacks, overbooking, fuel increases, the days of the airlines giving away seats in first class are just about over! First class service, while better than coach, has deteriorated greatly in the last 5-10 years. On short hops, other than the leg room, the service is not much better than coach.

IMO, you probably will not be upgraded for being nice. And the people who are telling you they are getting upgraded for free are probably forgetting to mention they are frequent flyers or their spouses are or they paid the full coach fare.
 
Sep 28th, 2000, 06:44 AM
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Chuck,
nicely put and very mature. thanks for not insulting anybody. I understand your position and appreciate the professional response.
 
Sep 28th, 2000, 08:19 AM
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Chuck,

When I said that statement, it was in regard to "Disgusted's" statement about "earning" his "premier" place in first class because he flies a lot. I did not mean that those who fly for business should not be upgraded. I personally believe that those with FF miles should be bumped up, assuming they have a civilized attitude. Like you said, it's not easy being a business traveler. My mother is VP of International Sales. Like you she travels extensively for business, but she knows it's part of the job. Every job has it's perks, and every job has it's horrible moments.

I probably won't get upgraded on my trip, but as I've reiterated hundreds of times, it won't hurt my feelings if I don't. I would like to try, though. If I succeed, then "Woo Hoo!" If I don't, big deal. No loss to me. But like many gate agents and other attendants have said (including Fodor's hosted forum with Jon), it all depends on the fickle attendant and their mood.

Like ME said, thanks for stating your opinion with dignity and without verbal abuse. It makes the forums so much nicer when opinions can be made without acting like spoiled toddlers. I appreciate it and value your opinion. Sorry you don't see your kids as much as you'd like. I grew up in that situation, and as long as your kids know that you love them, it will be okay. They will love and respect you for being a great daddy!

 
Sep 28th, 2000, 09:57 AM
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Lauren and ME-I am amused that you two feel compelled to answer/argue with those who you feel are posting insensitive/nasty/opinionated remarks here. These people (or person) are baiting you and by answering them back you are fueling the flames. The best course of action is to ignore them! Do not post back or try to reason with these people as that is what they want. Most of the people on this board are nice, helpful people. However, there is a small % who hide behind annonymity who do not care one iota what you do. Best to ignore them.
 
Sep 28th, 2000, 10:05 AM
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Amused:
Thanks, grandma.
 
Sep 28th, 2000, 11:00 AM
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ME-(and Lauren) Why do you feel the need to have the last word???? Are you obsessed with this board or what? Or do you have some deep, psychological problem? This subject has been beat to death by you two and you still have to have the last word, don't you. Are you at work ME?? Don't you have work to do??? Or are you one of the stay at home moms with nothing better to do than post here all day long??? You need to get a life, get some work done and get some professional help!!! Anyone that posts as much inane nonsense as you do needs to see a shrink!!! If you think you are being cute, think again, you and your pal Lauren are both annoying and tiresome. Move on to something else, please....
 
Sep 28th, 2000, 11:51 AM
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ok, Q. James Bond would like his Z8 now.
Anyway, I only respond to those idiots like yourself. Maybe I need psychological help. What's your shrinks name? As far as monitoring this board, you wouldn't know if I get the last word if you didn't check up on it yourself, hypocrite. The topic is asking for upgrades and that was what I initially responded to (with my wit and humor), so unless you have an opinion, mind your own business and move on to another board. And yes, I do have the last word. There.
 
Sep 28th, 2000, 01:53 PM
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TO ME-You have gotten so far off the topic it's not even funny anymore. And if you think you are funny and amusing-think again you are not. You really must not have much of a life ME because you are constantly posting here! IMO, you are an obsessive-compulsive person and you do indeed need therapy.
 
Sep 28th, 2000, 04:56 PM
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Thanks, Ginger. Tell Gilligan I said hi.
 
Sep 29th, 2000, 05:14 AM
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Amused--

I don't feel compelled to do anything. I just like to respond to what others have said on the board. In fact, that's what this is here for. It's like a discussion. I've learned a lot on this one forum. I've also been entertained by a great deal of posts, mine included. If I fueling the flames, good! Let's throw some gas on on the fire as well. It's all in fun and games, as well as learning what others think about upgrading or being "bumped up."

Q--

If this subject has been beat to death, why are you reading it? If I felt something was of no value, I would surely stop reading it. I would definitely not post a message, as that would be wasting my own time. You are only adding to this "annoying and tiresome" forum. But if you must know why I "feel the need" to answer, I will tell you--but you must keep this a secret. It's very, very confidential!! I am Dr. Chyna Rock at the BAD Horse University (for those who are unfamiliam with BAD Horse, it's Beat A Dead Horse University in New Jersey). I am doing research on how far someone can take a subject before violence sets in among the masses. You are only a guinea pig to me, and I thank you for posting. It will help my research greatly. Look for my final data in next month's issue of the scientific journal, BFD (and if you don't know what BFD stands for, then you are highly uneducated, my dear, for all the brillant scientists rave about it).
 
Sep 29th, 2000, 09:08 AM
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The original question has been answered. Let's put an end to the bickering, slams and obnoxious posts. Thank you.
 
Oct 1st, 2000, 08:07 AM
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I just wandered into this forum and find the different opinions quite funny. First, I'm a travel agent and there is some value in dressing nicely. The guidelines that we are given to recieve reduced rate travel usually have a dress code. Some prefer business attire such as suits or dressed. Some ban jeans, shorts, and tennis shoes so I think dressing appropriately does have some value in this. That doesn't mean it will happen though. For those that think it is horrible to accept any more than you have paid for...What do you do in a restaurant or somewhere if they offer you more than you ordered or properly paid for. Usually businesses do this for good customer relations and IT WORKS! Cruise ships give free upgrades all the time because the better trip you have with them, the more likely you'll not only come back but give good referrals. Bottom line is that I would certainly ask but don't really plan on it and don't be disappointed if you don't get what you want. You rarely will bu that makes the times you do better.
By-the-way, Lauren, let us know how you do. I always think it is great when niceness is rewarded. Pushiness I can't stand!
 
Oct 2nd, 2000, 04:40 AM
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Thank you, AN AGENT, for putting things into perspective for those travellers who insist that only the scum ask for upgrades.
 
Oct 2nd, 2000, 08:43 AM
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Where have you been ME, most travel agents are disdained on this forum. Do a search on the US forum and you will find out why!!

And ME- You have continued to keep the flaming and bickering going on this thread!! I think it's about time it stopped!!! Maybe if you were not such a loose cannon about things posted here by anonymous people who are baiting you, this thread would not have gotten so totally out of line!
 
Oct 2nd, 2000, 01:40 PM
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Sorry, I didn't know that agents were so "disdained" so I checked on the US forum and read many of the posts against TAs but really didn't see any reasons other than some people are afraid that we might try to earn a living or give our opinion on a travel subject. What a bizarre idea for someone who specializes in a field to actually have an opinion in that field! I have only been an agent for a couple of years and chose this as a second career because I've always enjoyed planning vacations and doing research in that area. I know the cynical ones out there do not buy this but I really don't feel a need to try to change their minds. As to the idea that we are here to advertise......I don't know about others but I am not. I do mostly cruises and spend a bit of time on the forums getting passengers opinions on the good or bad things they experience on different trips so I can pass that on to my clients. Just the opposite of trying to sell what is best for me. I sometimes answer questions about different shore excursions etc. from my experience as a passenger not as a travel agent. I benefit in no way. FYI: I have never been on a free or reduced rate vacation yet but of course I do hope that happens in the future.
 
Oct 6th, 2000, 09:20 AM
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My spouse and I have gotten "bumped up" to first class many times on United for no fee. We have done it on domestic flights, international flights, and once we were using frequent flyer miles and did not even pay for our coach seat!

We ask the airline rep at check-in (not at the gate, but at the baggage check in). We have never gotten upgraded by a rep at the gate.

I think the keys are: 1. Be a member of the airlines frequent flyer program. 2. Be friendly, and don't be afraid to ask! If the rep likes you, you will get the upgrade if one is available. We have had reps tell us there is no way they could upgrade us, and then after we chatted them up and made them laugh a bit, they gave it to us anyway.
 

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