Diversion of Flight for Politician?
Aug 4th, 2004, 04:29 PM
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I have to admit that I am would have been particularly steamed since the diversion was for a pair of rich drunken brats.
However, regardless of political party, it is wrong to give preferential treatment and inconvenience 200 people who do not have such influence. Shouldn't they at least get an apology?
However, regardless of political party, it is wrong to give preferential treatment and inconvenience 200 people who do not have such influence. Shouldn't they at least get an apology?
Aug 5th, 2004, 06:17 AM
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Why should it be illegal? USAirways as a company can do whatever it wants.
I'm sure the presence of the Bush daughters had some influence, just like I'm sure it would have the same thing for the Clinton daughter. People with money and power having influence?? Duh!!!!
I was more surprised to read that the daughters take public transportation!
I'm sure the presence of the Bush daughters had some influence, just like I'm sure it would have the same thing for the Clinton daughter. People with money and power having influence?? Duh!!!!
I was more surprised to read that the daughters take public transportation!
Aug 5th, 2004, 06:42 AM
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It is illegal due to USAir's condition of carriage
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"When a passenger will be delayed because of a schedule irregularity, any carrier causing such delay or in the case of a misconnection the original receiving carrier(s) will transport the passenger without stopover on the next flight on which space is available in the same class of service as the passenger?s original outbound flight at no additional cost to the passenger."
USAir violated their conditions of carriage filed with the Department of Transportation. They diverted an already delayed flight with an additional stopover thus further causing inconvenience to the origianl passengers. How would you like this if you were on that flight?
Oh well, at least they lost another 200 votes from those passengers. Maybe they are registered in Florida?
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"When a passenger will be delayed because of a schedule irregularity, any carrier causing such delay or in the case of a misconnection the original receiving carrier(s) will transport the passenger without stopover on the next flight on which space is available in the same class of service as the passenger?s original outbound flight at no additional cost to the passenger."
USAir violated their conditions of carriage filed with the Department of Transportation. They diverted an already delayed flight with an additional stopover thus further causing inconvenience to the origianl passengers. How would you like this if you were on that flight?
Oh well, at least they lost another 200 votes from those passengers. Maybe they are registered in Florida?
Aug 5th, 2004, 06:52 AM
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RBC: That is NOT illegal. It's THEIR conditions of carriage. They can change it whatever way and whenever THEY want to.
The bottom line is that I was not on the flight. You weren't either.
You have got to have more important things going on in your life than worrying about what USAirways does and why.
The bottom line is that I was not on the flight. You weren't either.
You have got to have more important things going on in your life than worrying about what USAirways does and why.
Aug 5th, 2004, 07:12 AM
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FYI
A "condition of carriage" is a legally binding contract stating that they will abide by the terms of the ticket you purchased. What would an airline do to you if you decided to change it? Try it sometime, ask an airline if you can change what you paid for the ticket or if they will make an extra stopover for you. After they stop laughing I am positive they will say no.
The original passengers contract was not followed. Why would anyone think this is okay? No one would want to be inconvenienced this way.
A "condition of carriage" is a legally binding contract stating that they will abide by the terms of the ticket you purchased. What would an airline do to you if you decided to change it? Try it sometime, ask an airline if you can change what you paid for the ticket or if they will make an extra stopover for you. After they stop laughing I am positive they will say no.
The original passengers contract was not followed. Why would anyone think this is okay? No one would want to be inconvenienced this way.
Aug 5th, 2004, 07:49 AM
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Caribtraveler - I too was surprised that they took public transportation, but I'd wager a few bucks that there were a LOT of seat reassignments. And I agree that the airline would probably do the same for young Clinton. But I don't agree with your advice:
"You have got to have more important things going on in your life than ...."
directed to RBC, as those words are just as valid directed at you, and secondly, who are you to decided what's important in others' lives, and where their efforts are to be directed?
"You have got to have more important things going on in your life than ...."
directed to RBC, as those words are just as valid directed at you, and secondly, who are you to decided what's important in others' lives, and where their efforts are to be directed?
Aug 5th, 2004, 08:05 AM
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rb: It was not an advice. It was an observation. If you don't agree with me stating it, that's your right, just like I have the right to make an observation. Frankly, the way RBC phrased it and titled this clearly shows that it's less about passenger rights and more about politics. And believe me when I tell you I'm not a fan of the current administration so I'm not trying to find an excuse for what happened. If RBC were on that flight, I would completely understand the level of anger. But he was not. All he has to do is never give his business with USAirways if he doesn't like the way they operate. So yes, I'll say it again... I hope there are more important things in his life than what USAirways did.
Aug 5th, 2004, 08:14 AM
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Why does this have to be personal? I have said nothing against you or anyone (besides the privileged people who caused the flight diversion).
Personal statement reflect more on the person posting them than anyone.
The diversion was wrong and is news (yes, primarily do to the election). I didn't create the story.
Personal statement reflect more on the person posting them than anyone.
The diversion was wrong and is news (yes, primarily do to the election). I didn't create the story.
Aug 5th, 2004, 08:17 AM
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And RBC: I do travel and I am aware of what a condition of carriage is. and what happens if I change my airline ticket since it has happened to me. The passengers got to where they needed. If airlines had to compensate every passenger who got to their destination late, they would not be in business anymore.
Aug 5th, 2004, 08:22 AM
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This is one of the most useless posts I've seen in a long time. I'll say it again. Flight diversions HAPPEN, this is not the first one and it won't be the last one. You never heard of the one that AA did and it benefited me because my name is not Bush, Clinton, etc. You also never heard about the one that Spirit Air took me on and I lost my original seat.
So what's you point? Get over it and move on. The passengers on that flight will/will not get something or nothing, why are you so concerned?
I never got anything from Spirit when they decided that the non-stop from TPA to ACY will have a stop at RSW. I lived, I had a great time in Atlantic City and few years later I'm here to talk about it. I don't have any knowledge of the AA passengrs getting or not getting any compensation when AA decided to make a stop to pick 12 passengers on a Caribbean island that otherwise would have to stay for the extra night. I was one of the 12 and I appreciated it. I'm not sure the passengers on that plane did, but regardless, that's the way it went down.
So what's you point? Get over it and move on. The passengers on that flight will/will not get something or nothing, why are you so concerned?
I never got anything from Spirit when they decided that the non-stop from TPA to ACY will have a stop at RSW. I lived, I had a great time in Atlantic City and few years later I'm here to talk about it. I don't have any knowledge of the AA passengrs getting or not getting any compensation when AA decided to make a stop to pick 12 passengers on a Caribbean island that otherwise would have to stay for the extra night. I was one of the 12 and I appreciated it. I'm not sure the passengers on that plane did, but regardless, that's the way it went down.
Aug 5th, 2004, 09:04 AM
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Why do people keep responding to this useless post if it is not news or if they have better things to do?
Granting political and economic privileges IS news and IS wrong. As stated by earlier posters there were other flight options for the Albany passengers. However, this would have been more inconvenient for the privileged few.
Granting political and economic privileges IS news and IS wrong. As stated by earlier posters there were other flight options for the Albany passengers. However, this would have been more inconvenient for the privileged few.
Aug 5th, 2004, 09:08 AM
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Here are some hard numbers as reported by BTS, (part of the US Department of Transportation), a governmental agency that keeps statistics on anything to do with transpostation:
They kept statistics of 425,000 scheduled flights in US. 0.14% of those flights were diverted. That means there were 595 flights that were diverted. So, how come you never heard of the other 594 diverted flights?
Here is the link:
<b>http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2FD14AF8</b>
They kept statistics of 425,000 scheduled flights in US. 0.14% of those flights were diverted. That means there were 595 flights that were diverted. So, how come you never heard of the other 594 diverted flights?
Here is the link:
<b>http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2FD14AF8</b>
Aug 5th, 2004, 10:00 AM
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color me stupid..... 
We had a very nice time that evening in Atlantic City. She had to work the VERY early flight next morning. I think we talked couple of more times on the phone, but between her schedule and mine going to hell after 9/11, I never saw her again. I like to think that she had a nice time, and I know I had a wonderful time.
We had a very nice time that evening in Atlantic City. She had to work the VERY early flight next morning. I think we talked couple of more times on the phone, but between her schedule and mine going to hell after 9/11, I never saw her again. I like to think that she had a nice time, and I know I had a wonderful time.
Aug 5th, 2004, 10:59 AM
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"They kept statistics of 425,000 scheduled flights in US. 0.14% of those flights were diverted. That means there were 595 flights that were diverted. So, how come you never heard of the other 594 diverted flights?"
Because political favoritism was not the reason for those. Virtually all were due to a passenger health problem on a flight, not political favoritism.
Because political favoritism was not the reason for those. Virtually all were due to a passenger health problem on a flight, not political favoritism.
Aug 5th, 2004, 11:20 AM
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<b>Quote
Originally posted by RBC</b>
<i>Because political favoritism was not the reason for those. Virtually all were due to a passenger health problem on a flight, not political favoritism.</i>
And you know this how?
Originally posted by RBC</b>
<i>Because political favoritism was not the reason for those. Virtually all were due to a passenger health problem on a flight, not political favoritism.</i>
And you know this how?
