RHKKMK'S First trip to South Africa
Oct 21st, 2009, 04:01 PM
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We await pics of the meal at Emily's Moon along with the rest of the album.
Indeed we are treated here to an "ever-so-special" report.
The cow with horns may have been the bontebok, considered one of the most handsome antelope. Lucky you!
Indeed we are treated here to an "ever-so-special" report.
The cow with horns may have been the bontebok, considered one of the most handsome antelope. Lucky you!
Oct 21st, 2009, 07:19 PM
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I'm so confused: did someone call someone else a Fat Bas--rd?
The restaurant sounds great and the hotel website looks beautiful. Sign us up. Of course, it is a six hour drive from Cape Town, but I guess we can play "spot the springbok" or similar as we drive along. . .
The adventure sounds great.
The restaurant sounds great and the hotel website looks beautiful. Sign us up. Of course, it is a six hour drive from Cape Town, but I guess we can play "spot the springbok" or similar as we drive along. . .
The adventure sounds great.
Oct 22nd, 2009, 07:42 AM
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Glad to hear you guys are having such a great time in SA 
I'm currently in Joburg for one last night before flying home. Sorry my schedule didn't allow for that GTG in Cape Town.
I've definitely caught the Africa bug! I haven't even left, and I'm already planning the next trip. More later...
I'm currently in Joburg for one last night before flying home. Sorry my schedule didn't allow for that GTG in Cape Town.
I've definitely caught the Africa bug! I haven't even left, and I'm already planning the next trip. More later...
Oct 22nd, 2009, 09:39 AM
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So glad you cleared up the Fat Bstard i thought WOWE Karen cleary upset Bob today.
Bob, Muffin is preparing a cake just for you guys (i was kind of hoping it was for my Bday but seems you guys get top billing...) BTW decorating has picked up a pace but we are still woefully behind......
Bob, Muffin is preparing a cake just for you guys (i was kind of hoping it was for my Bday but seems you guys get top billing...) BTW decorating has picked up a pace but we are still woefully behind......
Oct 22nd, 2009, 01:37 PM
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Okay, I am now caught up with your escapades. This sounds like one that Jeane and I could duplicate verbatim (gpanda will claim that you don't understand that word). I know that I don't have to tell you to keep it coming.
I WOULD do the bungee jumping (but I'm <160 lbs - on a good day, anyway).
I WOULD do the bungee jumping (but I'm <160 lbs - on a good day, anyway).
Oct 22nd, 2009, 10:22 PM
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To all Fodorites following our Cape Town gtg.
Please visit
http://www.ilovecapetown.com/tours/F.../Fodorsgtg.htm
where you can see what we did at the Cape Town gtg in picture and narrative format.
Enjoy.
Very proudly part of the wonderful
nation of South Africa
Please visit
http://www.ilovecapetown.com/tours/F.../Fodorsgtg.htm
where you can see what we did at the Cape Town gtg in picture and narrative format.
Enjoy.
Very proudly part of the wonderful
nation of South Africa
Oct 23rd, 2009, 03:43 AM
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Bob, great to hear that you and Karen had a mostly good trip. (Still to read all of your posts though.)
If I may comment on just two things you've said. I don't know why you refer to the Afrikaans Monument as representing something that is negative. I presume you're relating it to the fact that there were many Afrikaans-speaking supporters of Apartheid. But then so were there many who are English-speaking. And perhaps many former Boy Scouts, as I was. But then that also didn't make me a de facto apartheid proponent. (BTW, to nail some of my proverbial colours to the mast, I was an anti-apartheid activist in my student days. Albeit not brave enough to blow up electricity pylons like some of my mates. And although I'm English-speaking, my partner is Afrikaans-speaking by background but far from what you might think is the stereotype.)
While 60 per cent of whites in S.Al. are Afrikaans-speaking, by no means all of them have the same views. And 90 per cent of S.A. "coloureds" (mixed-race) are Afrikaans-speaking. So Afrikaans is a language, not a "movement".
But my apologies if I've misunderstood your words. On a less potentially contentious subject (except for some Capetonians!) I think Selwyn might have disagreed that the Cape of Good Hope was the most southerly point, not the most southwestern point. (And if I'm correct, he's a departure from the Cape Town norm in that! ) Cape Agulhas is the most southerly point, while many Capetonians (except I think Selwyn) think that they can lay claim to that. And arising out of that, the usual big debating point is the much-used local reference to "two oceans". As in supposedly meeting there.
If I may comment on just two things you've said. I don't know why you refer to the Afrikaans Monument as representing something that is negative. I presume you're relating it to the fact that there were many Afrikaans-speaking supporters of Apartheid. But then so were there many who are English-speaking. And perhaps many former Boy Scouts, as I was. But then that also didn't make me a de facto apartheid proponent.
(BTW, to nail some of my proverbial colours to the mast, I was an anti-apartheid activist in my student days. Albeit not brave enough to blow up electricity pylons like some of my mates. And although I'm English-speaking, my partner is Afrikaans-speaking by background but far from what you might think is the stereotype.)While 60 per cent of whites in S.Al. are Afrikaans-speaking, by no means all of them have the same views. And 90 per cent of S.A. "coloureds" (mixed-race) are Afrikaans-speaking. So Afrikaans is a language, not a "movement".
But my apologies if I've misunderstood your words. On a less potentially contentious subject (except for some Capetonians!) I think Selwyn might have disagreed that the Cape of Good Hope was the most southerly point, not the most southwestern point. (And if I'm correct, he's a departure from the Cape Town norm in that!
) Cape Agulhas is the most southerly point, while many Capetonians (except I think Selwyn) think that they can lay claim to that. And arising out of that, the usual big debating point is the much-used local reference to "two oceans". As in supposedly meeting there.
Oct 23rd, 2009, 03:48 AM
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Selwyn, thank you! I've seen photos from Christine Wagner's trip to SA with her husband Heinz, and even seen a little video clip of them dancing with the children.
Great photos! Glad to see Flat Stanley, and I know the Kimballs' grandchildren will especially appreciate that. I think Gpanda has a sign outside his office similar to the one Dr. Blece-Hade has outside his. And yes, Bob & Karen are wonderful people, who are definitely "people-friendly" and have remarkably great GTG skills. I am so happy you all enjoyed your time together, and the photos reflect that. Lily looks like a serene and elegant lady.
BC
Great photos! Glad to see Flat Stanley, and I know the Kimballs' grandchildren will especially appreciate that. I think Gpanda has a sign outside his office similar to the one Dr. Blece-Hade has outside his. And yes, Bob & Karen are wonderful people, who are definitely "people-friendly" and have remarkably great GTG skills. I am so happy you all enjoyed your time together, and the photos reflect that. Lily looks like a serene and elegant lady.
BC
Oct 23rd, 2009, 10:18 AM
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Selwyn,
Thanks for posting the photos. It was very interesting to see you all visiting the township.
Having just attended the Boston GTG organized by Bob and the panda guy who keeps posting everywhere, I can understand how you had a wonderful day.
Thanks for posting the photos. It was very interesting to see you all visiting the township.
Having just attended the Boston GTG organized by Bob and the panda guy who keeps posting everywhere, I can understand how you had a wonderful day.
Oct 23rd, 2009, 12:07 PM
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selwyn, thanks for the good words... we loved our day with you and even though the group ended up being small we learned a lot and had a few laughs, and maybe even a few tears when we think about the townships...
Kurt was a good travelling companion also...
Kurt was a good travelling companion also...
Oct 23rd, 2009, 06:28 PM
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I've loved discovering this dialogue since my husband and I just returned from 13 days in CapeTown and Johannesburg. It's bringing the whole trip back to life! Thank you RHKKMK! Another favorite of ours was eating at Le Petite Ferme in Franshoek ( I may not be spelling all of that correctly). It was delicious food and a lovely setting. We live in the Boston area so let us know about your next GTG! Keep enjoying S. Africa!
Oct 25th, 2009, 04:41 AM
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Gpanda,
You can take it from me Bob <b>WAS</b> dancing in the township and he seemed to be loving it to bits when doing so. Panda if I were you I would be careful what you say about our friend Bob because I gave him some verbal ammunition to blow you out bigtime with regard to your name. Not telling what this this is as I am leaving it to Bob to use at the correct moment, possibly after you have learnt to spell the word PHOTOSHOP. The big question of course is when will we see you in Cape Town so as to put your dancing skills to the test.
Go well Panda and leave my buddy Bob and dear Karen alone so that they can enjoy their South African travels without going into "PANDAmonium.
Selwyn Davidowitz
Very proudly part of the wonderful nation of South Africa
You can take it from me Bob <b>WAS</b> dancing in the township and he seemed to be loving it to bits when doing so. Panda if I were you I would be careful what you say about our friend Bob because I gave him some verbal ammunition to blow you out bigtime with regard to your name.
Not telling what this this is as I am leaving it to Bob to use at the correct moment, possibly after you have learnt to spell the word PHOTOSHOP. The big question of course is when will we see you in Cape Town so as to put your dancing skills to the test. Go well Panda and leave my buddy Bob and dear Karen alone so that they can enjoy their South African travels without going into "PANDAmonium.
Selwyn Davidowitz
Very proudly part of the wonderful
nation of South Africa
Oct 25th, 2009, 05:39 AM
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I'm so thoroughly enjoying reading your reports, Bob! We loved our 2004 trip to SA so much and are hoping to get back again sooner rather than later. BC, you probably forgot you also saw pictures of when Steve and I and Kavey and Pete went out with Selwyn!
Just the other day I caught an episode of "1000 Places to See before you Die," where they were in South Africa. I recognized that their guide was no other than Selwyn's brother, and that they visited Kayamandi too.
But back to Bob's report - I suspect you and Karen will come home as impressed as we were with the spirit and joy in nearly everyone you meet in SA. Fabulous landscapes and adventures, sure, but the people -- Wow.
Just the other day I caught an episode of "1000 Places to See before you Die," where they were in South Africa. I recognized that their guide was no other than Selwyn's brother, and that they visited Kayamandi too.
But back to Bob's report - I suspect you and Karen will come home as impressed as we were with the spirit and joy in nearly everyone you meet in SA. Fabulous landscapes and adventures, sure, but the people -- Wow.
Oct 25th, 2009, 06:46 AM
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uhoh_busted, you're right. My viewing of Christine's photos, which I referenced, were freshest in my memory, so were the ones I mentioned. When Bob & Karen, who were my host and hostess on my latest Boston trip, mentioned Selwyn, though, it's like they were talking about an old friend because Kavey & Pete, you and Steve, and of course Christine & Heinz all had such a wonderful time with him. Bob & Karen were talking to Selwyn via Skype on my stay in B&K's home, and hearing him was like vicariously meeting him. B&K are very much "people" persons, so I am certain they're enjoying their African adventure. Tough to keep up with these folks, though--they're headed to England this week, then home to MA for 9 days, prior to heading to Thailand with Panda, Mrs. Panda, and another party known cryptically as Turalura (see the Asia board).
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