Hand Baggage Banned on UK flights
Aug 10th, 2006, 06:30 AM
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CW,
Since you dont travel until Sept, there is a chance that the carry-on rules go back to normal (atleast regarding non-liquid stuff). Let's wait and watch......
Marija,
Good idea to switch to Emirates, especially if you are travelling in the very near future.
Hari
Since you dont travel until Sept, there is a chance that the carry-on rules go back to normal (atleast regarding non-liquid stuff). Let's wait and watch......
Marija,
Good idea to switch to Emirates, especially if you are travelling in the very near future.
Hari
Aug 10th, 2006, 08:40 AM
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HI All,
I am flying united to London and then BA to Nairobi on the 20th. Does anyone have a suggestions as to the best way to pack all of my camera gear? I have never travelled with expesive gear like this and don't have a clue. thanks!
I am flying united to London and then BA to Nairobi on the 20th. Does anyone have a suggestions as to the best way to pack all of my camera gear? I have never travelled with expesive gear like this and don't have a clue. thanks!
Aug 10th, 2006, 08:45 AM
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I'm kind of worried about the liquid restrictions. I leave for Cairo in 1.5 weeks, but I'm a diabetic and will be bringing 6 months of insulin on board (that's alot of liquid!), and it needs to be kept cold and I really don't want to check it in case it becomes lost. And keeping it cold is another matter, because I need either ice or those instant cooling packets, both of which are liquid. Ahhh!
Aug 10th, 2006, 08:51 AM
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Film camera crews check their equipment all the time. They use foam and pack in metal containers. You might try packing everything well in bubble wrap or foam in one case, then place that locked case, face down, inside another locked case. Label it "fragile", but don't say WHAT is fragile. Hopefully, the restrictions will ease with time, but the 20th is coming up soon.
Aug 10th, 2006, 08:58 AM
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This is about traveling and everyone on this Fodors group. I ask you, why severely penalize EVERYONE traveling when the 5% of the travelers who might do such atrocities can easily be identified? Why, because someones feelings night be hurt, or, they might be embarresed? How very selfess of those people. Let those "communities" whose members plan or attempt these attrocities take much greater responsibility for stopping the murderers. And until then, those communities will have to suffer the major inconviences of strict security travel regulations. And I don't care whether these communities are Buddist, Blacks, old men, teenagers, Nuns, Amish, or Eskimos.
regards - tom
regards - tom
Aug 10th, 2006, 09:10 AM
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Are you flying into and out of Nairobi? If you are traveling with one safari ground operator, they could possibly store the items at their offices and bring them to you prior to your departure. You may need to pack for the return trip the same way.
Aug 10th, 2006, 10:02 AM
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Tom, the second we limit security to known profile groups the terrorists will simply bypass our efforts by recruiting people who don't fit the profile and will therefore still get through. Heck, Reid (shoe bomb) was half black Jamaican and half white British. He didn't fit the racial profiles at all and although he had converted to Islam this kind of information wouldn't necessarily be known by authorities.
Restricting security to only some segments of the population would be a false security.
I have no problem with focusing more of the security energy on those who fit known profiles but not all of it.
Restricting security to only some segments of the population would be a false security.
I have no problem with focusing more of the security energy on those who fit known profiles but not all of it.
Aug 10th, 2006, 10:10 AM
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In a thread on this topic at Lonely Planet a couple of packing options were mentioned for camera gear:
Hakuba cases (available at B&H photo video) and pelican cases http://www.pelicanshippingcases.com/
For those traveling on small planes on internal flights I would think this means you would have to store these cases at the major airports. I am flying into Lusaka and just checked the Zambia Air/Airwaves website and this is what they said about storage for Lusaka:
"If the passenger's luggage is overweight (over 15kg), they will be charged accordingly and their luggage may have to be left behind due to aircraft carrying capacities. We do offer to store passenger excess luggage at the Lusaka International Airport, however, do not recommend this as many passengers are uncomfortable leaving luggage behind and this can lead to departure delays."
My concern with this option is theft. Seems like these metal containers would stick out as if putting a "steal me" sign on them.
Hakuba cases (available at B&H photo video) and pelican cases http://www.pelicanshippingcases.com/
For those traveling on small planes on internal flights I would think this means you would have to store these cases at the major airports. I am flying into Lusaka and just checked the Zambia Air/Airwaves website and this is what they said about storage for Lusaka:
"If the passenger's luggage is overweight (over 15kg), they will be charged accordingly and their luggage may have to be left behind due to aircraft carrying capacities. We do offer to store passenger excess luggage at the Lusaka International Airport, however, do not recommend this as many passengers are uncomfortable leaving luggage behind and this can lead to departure delays."
My concern with this option is theft. Seems like these metal containers would stick out as if putting a "steal me" sign on them.
Aug 10th, 2006, 10:26 AM
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Many professionals use hard cases made by Pelican. http://www.casesbypelican.com/pelican_Camera_cases.htm
This is an option if you are stuck with a no-carry-on flight. I have read of people putting the Pelican case inside a larger duffel bag also.
This is an option if you are stuck with a no-carry-on flight. I have read of people putting the Pelican case inside a larger duffel bag also.
Aug 10th, 2006, 10:27 AM
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Kavey - I know, yours is the usual response as to why not to do it. But what would be lost? It could be NO WORSE than it is this very day. Just about anything would be better than it is today. We are very vunerable without close scrutiny of travalers. And the only practical way to scrutinize is to pick out certain persons. Does it work? Our (USA) Customs and Immigration Service use it all the time. They look at you, and decide whether to look further. You've seen it at customs. They never stop me but the kid behind me with a ruc sack coming in from South America has a good chance of being interrogated. And it works today with one of the most targeted yet safest airlines, Al-El. Al-El quickly screens each passenger. Anyone that fits their profile is interrogated further and may be denied boarding.
Bring it on I say, I will feel more secure and much less harrassed.
regards - tom
Bring it on I say, I will feel more secure and much less harrassed.
regards - tom
Aug 10th, 2006, 12:02 PM
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Cooncat - I actually am traveling in October of this year. I imagine the restrictions we see now will be relaxed to some degree over the next few weeks.
For those traveling in next few days this is what British Airways has posted on their website as to what is allowed and what is not:
With immediate effect, the following arrangements apply to all passengers starting their journey at a UK or North American airport and to those transferring between flights at a UK airport.
All cabin baggage must be processed as hold baggage and carried in the hold of passenger aircraft departing UK airports.
Passengers may take through the airport security search point, in a single (ideally transparent) plastic carrier bag, only the following items. Nothing may be carried in pockets:-
pocket size wallets and pocket size purses plus contents (for example money, credit cards, identity cards etc (not handbags));
travel documents essential for the journey (for example passports and travel tickets);
prescription medicines and medical items sufficient and essential for the flight (eg diabetic kit), except in liquid form unless verified as authentic.
spectacles and sunglasses, without cases.
contact lens holders, without bottles of solution.
for those travelling with an infant: baby food, milk (the contents of each bottle must be tasted by the accompanying passenger) and sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight (nappies, wipes, creams and nappy disposal bags).
female sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight, if unboxed (eg tampons, pads, towels and wipes).
tissues (unboxed) and/or handkerchiefs
keys (but no electrical key fobs)
Every other item must be carried in customer’s hold luggage.
For clarity, passengers are advised that no electrical or battery powered items including laptops, mobile phones, portable music players, remote controls etc can be carried in the cabin and must be checked in as hold baggage.
All passengers must be hand searched, and their footwear and all the items they are carrying must be x-ray screened.
Pushchairs and walking aids must be x-ray screened, and only airport-provided wheelchairs may pass through the screening point.
In addition to the above, all passengers boarding flights to the USA and all the items they are carrying, including those acquired after the central screening point, must be subjected to secondary search at the boarding gate. Any liquids discovered must be removed from the passenger.
Customers travelling to the UK from overseas airports may be subject to local airport restrictions and therefore customers should plan to travel with the very minimum of hand luggage.
For those traveling in next few days this is what British Airways has posted on their website as to what is allowed and what is not:
With immediate effect, the following arrangements apply to all passengers starting their journey at a UK or North American airport and to those transferring between flights at a UK airport.
All cabin baggage must be processed as hold baggage and carried in the hold of passenger aircraft departing UK airports.
Passengers may take through the airport security search point, in a single (ideally transparent) plastic carrier bag, only the following items. Nothing may be carried in pockets:-
pocket size wallets and pocket size purses plus contents (for example money, credit cards, identity cards etc (not handbags));
travel documents essential for the journey (for example passports and travel tickets);
prescription medicines and medical items sufficient and essential for the flight (eg diabetic kit), except in liquid form unless verified as authentic.
spectacles and sunglasses, without cases.
contact lens holders, without bottles of solution.
for those travelling with an infant: baby food, milk (the contents of each bottle must be tasted by the accompanying passenger) and sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight (nappies, wipes, creams and nappy disposal bags).
female sanitary items sufficient and essential for the flight, if unboxed (eg tampons, pads, towels and wipes).
tissues (unboxed) and/or handkerchiefs
keys (but no electrical key fobs)
Every other item must be carried in customer’s hold luggage.
For clarity, passengers are advised that no electrical or battery powered items including laptops, mobile phones, portable music players, remote controls etc can be carried in the cabin and must be checked in as hold baggage.
All passengers must be hand searched, and their footwear and all the items they are carrying must be x-ray screened.
Pushchairs and walking aids must be x-ray screened, and only airport-provided wheelchairs may pass through the screening point.
In addition to the above, all passengers boarding flights to the USA and all the items they are carrying, including those acquired after the central screening point, must be subjected to secondary search at the boarding gate. Any liquids discovered must be removed from the passenger.
Customers travelling to the UK from overseas airports may be subject to local airport restrictions and therefore customers should plan to travel with the very minimum of hand luggage.
