Where to stay in San Francisco
Aug 28th, 2002, 11:29 AM
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Having lived in San Francisco for over 8 years I can tell you this:
Fisherman's Wharf is a hideous tourist trap teeming with chain hotels, overpriced seafood restaurants and fat, clueless out-of-towners with screaming children.
Union Square is as congested as any city's downtown area, but much more central. There are many nice hotels in the area - also in the Theater District. South of Market, near the Yerba Buena Center, there are some nice new hotels as well - this is also very central and right near the Museum of Modern Art.
Union Square
Fisherman's Wharf is a hideous tourist trap teeming with chain hotels, overpriced seafood restaurants and fat, clueless out-of-towners with screaming children.
Union Square is as congested as any city's downtown area, but much more central. There are many nice hotels in the area - also in the Theater District. South of Market, near the Yerba Buena Center, there are some nice new hotels as well - this is also very central and right near the Museum of Modern Art.
Union Square
Aug 28th, 2002, 12:28 PM
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Sister just went on her first trip I helped with arrangements as I was meeting for Kauai trip. She stayed at the Fairmont and thought the $229 AAA rate was worth every penny. She orginally wanted Fisherman's wharf but I talked her out of it guessing it would be like the South Street Seaport in NYC.
One regret my sister had was not finding restaurant location before hand. No one could direct her to quality Chinese food in China town or Clam chowder or seafood in fisherman's wharf. She loved the Tonga Room at the Fairmont fisherman's wharf and Lappert's Ice Cream don't know where she found this store as this is a Kauai based company.
She also had the complaint of not seeing too many SF colorful characters. I think she expected to see more creative types, gays etc instead saw a lot of tourist and the corprate crowd.
One regret my sister had was not finding restaurant location before hand. No one could direct her to quality Chinese food in China town or Clam chowder or seafood in fisherman's wharf. She loved the Tonga Room at the Fairmont fisherman's wharf and Lappert's Ice Cream don't know where she found this store as this is a Kauai based company.
She also had the complaint of not seeing too many SF colorful characters. I think she expected to see more creative types, gays etc instead saw a lot of tourist and the corprate crowd.
Aug 28th, 2002, 12:32 PM
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We stayed in the Theater district on Geary Street last year. There were quite a few hotels in the area that were just wonderful. I wish I could remember the name of the place we stayed and the website we found them through! It was a French style inn, maybe 8 floors, but absolutely charming and very affordable. I'll try to get the name and post again.
Geary Street was a few blocks from Union Square and we found it to be very convenient to anywhere we wanted to go. Don't stay at Fisherman's Wharf.
Geary Street was a few blocks from Union Square and we found it to be very convenient to anywhere we wanted to go. Don't stay at Fisherman's Wharf.
Aug 28th, 2002, 12:42 PM
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Ok! The name of the place we stayed was The Savoy Hotel. Their website is www.thesavoyhotel.com. Highly, Highly recommended!
Aug 28th, 2002, 01:06 PM
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Might want to go to http://www.sftravel.com/lodge.html to get some reviews of SF lodging by category.
I agree about Union Square. Great location, good lodging choice and access to public transportation.
I agree about Union Square. Great location, good lodging choice and access to public transportation.
Aug 28th, 2002, 01:06 PM
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Lynn,
Agree that Fisherman's Wharf is not a good place to stay. But Union Square is very dirty. Lots of homeless people flock to this area harrassing people for money as well as using sidewalks as a public toilet. It is absolutely disgusting. It's so unfortunate that much of SF in recent years has been getting rough around the edges.
Agree that Fisherman's Wharf is not a good place to stay. But Union Square is very dirty. Lots of homeless people flock to this area harrassing people for money as well as using sidewalks as a public toilet. It is absolutely disgusting. It's so unfortunate that much of SF in recent years has been getting rough around the edges.
Aug 28th, 2002, 03:19 PM
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Andrew - try looking for these hotels on-line to see what you think:
The Clift Hotel
The Palomar
The Monaco
Hotel Nikko
The Clift Hotel
The Huntington Hotel (this place is not quite downtown, but on the hill overlooking it)
The Vintage Court Hotel
Hotel Rex
The Clift Hotel
The Palomar
The Monaco
Hotel Nikko
The Clift Hotel
The Huntington Hotel (this place is not quite downtown, but on the hill overlooking it)
The Vintage Court Hotel
Hotel Rex
Aug 28th, 2002, 03:56 PM
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Andrew: On second thought - The Bijou is very close to The Tenderloin (which may or may not be a bother to you ... depends upon your tolerance of a city's frayed edges). For a less expensive and lovely, lovely stay in a stellar little bed and breakfast in Union Square try The Golden Gate Hotel. It's TOPS.
Aug 28th, 2002, 04:21 PM
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Have you thought of looking into the Embarcadero/Financial area?
We've stayed at the Harbor Court Inn and the Park Hyatt (more Financial District) and got both pretty cheap thru P'line and Hotwire.
Good luck and don't let anyone rain on your parade.
Kal
We've stayed at the Harbor Court Inn and the Park Hyatt (more Financial District) and got both pretty cheap thru P'line and Hotwire.
Good luck and don't let anyone rain on your parade.
Kal
Aug 28th, 2002, 11:14 PM
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Gee, all these put downs about Fishermans Wharf! It IS for tourists. But it is central to public transportation and close to the ferries. I live across the Bay and when I come to the city I stay at Sheraton, Holiday Inn or Tuscan Inn near Fishermans Wharf, or Days Inn out by the Beach (SF Zoo). I'm SWF and feel safe at all of these. Yes, there are bums in SF and sometimes they're threatening. But this is the big city! While you're here, be sure to do the Alcatraz tour! Well worth it and you get the ferry ride too!
Aug 29th, 2002, 10:15 AM
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The said state of affairs in San Francisco.
San Francisco, the former free love capital of the '60s, today is a for-pay love Mecca attracting tourists, businessmen and sexual adventurers of all types -- including pedophiles.
What many consumers overlook is that drug trafficking, open-air violence and sexually transmitted diseases cling to prostitution like the tightest fishnet stocking, as do other forms of felonies.
"We know that prostitution leads to all kinds of other problems -- murder, rape, child abuse, kidnapping, fraud," Folsom County police Sgt. Skip Rogers says.
One example is the huge overlap between pimps and drug dealers. The same pool of criminals manipulates youngsters into selling both narcotics and sex.
The men cruise in their Hondas and SUVs, roaming the streets of San Francisco each night looking for an hour or two of love. Many are middle-aged or older, many have wives or families, and almost all are white. Some are looking for young women and others are looking for boys. It is both San Francisco's reputation as a mecca for homosexuals and the steady stream of drugs in The City that brings the hustlers here.
The people on both sides of this sex equation are hurting. The johns crave intimacy, and they find it in The City's open-market attitude toward sex. What many don't realize in buying that moment of satisfaction is that they often end up funding larger criminal elements -- pimps, drug dealers and even organized crime families.
San Francisco, the former free love capital of the '60s, today is a for-pay love Mecca attracting tourists, businessmen and sexual adventurers of all types -- including pedophiles.
What many consumers overlook is that drug trafficking, open-air violence and sexually transmitted diseases cling to prostitution like the tightest fishnet stocking, as do other forms of felonies.
"We know that prostitution leads to all kinds of other problems -- murder, rape, child abuse, kidnapping, fraud," Folsom County police Sgt. Skip Rogers says.
One example is the huge overlap between pimps and drug dealers. The same pool of criminals manipulates youngsters into selling both narcotics and sex.
The men cruise in their Hondas and SUVs, roaming the streets of San Francisco each night looking for an hour or two of love. Many are middle-aged or older, many have wives or families, and almost all are white. Some are looking for young women and others are looking for boys. It is both San Francisco's reputation as a mecca for homosexuals and the steady stream of drugs in The City that brings the hustlers here.
The people on both sides of this sex equation are hurting. The johns crave intimacy, and they find it in The City's open-market attitude toward sex. What many don't realize in buying that moment of satisfaction is that they often end up funding larger criminal elements -- pimps, drug dealers and even organized crime families.
