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It's tough xxx but I am single so it is kind of worth it. Not that I am on the prawl or anything just that I am not surrounded by families. There are plenty of things I can join blah blah. In suberbia (sp) I would be left with family oriented organizations. I love kids but I much prefer a community that caters to everyone. You do need to make money to live here and I think we do make more than our country neighbors but costs of course suck that right up.
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Ellen are you out there?
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Yes, I am here. I think $50 is fine. I remember that when I was renting, I didn't tip the super much at Christmas if I had used him many times over the year to do small personal things for me(hanging a shade, installing a toaster oven under my counter, breaking down and disposing of cartons). I would overtip him every time he did one of those things for me, and gave him less at the end of the year. He never complained and was always ready to help me out. He should also be getting compensation from the owner of your unit (if there is one) and the management company if it is a rental building.
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Oh, and to the suburbanites. $1600 is average for a studio, but remember, most people in the city aren't paying $1000 per month to own a car (payments, insurance, gas, repairs, etc.). At least that was how I justified it when I made the move : - )
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never thought about the cost of cars that's true makes me feel better about the rent gouging. I do feel ripped off when I have to dump (EVERY OTHER NIGHT)the water from the pan I have under the radiator !!!. It leaks even when it's off.<BR><BR>A nice apartment in the city is defined differently from a nice apartment in the suburbs!<BR><BR>Thanks Ellen! I saw him eying me hand as I walked passed him with Christmas cards new he thought I was bringing him his bonus. SO I better get busy!
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I have not read this entire thread but the headline "aggressively pursuing a a gratuity" caught my eye b/c of what happened to me @ 6:30 this morning. When I opened the door to pick up the newspaper I noticed a note sticking out of th top of our mailbox. This is what it said:<BR>"I am no longer your newspaper delivery person. But I used to be until November 25. Best Wishes for the Holiday Season."<BR>(Address of former carrier listed)<BR><BR>Wow! Does this give the word "aggressive" a whole new meaning????
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did you know people are supposed to tip waiters at weddings and other banquet affairs, especially if they are running drinks? i worked at a country club this summer, and you wouldn't believe how cheap people could be-most never tipped, but ordered me around. one guy not from my table made me get him and four of his friends this fancy drinks, and tipped me one dollar, for somethiing that took 1/2 hour of my time. the worst was how rude people could be-ordering me aroudn and then not tipping me. old people never tipped, but i always helped them with a smile and they were usually nice to me, so even though a tip would have been nice, i was fine iwth just civility. <BR><BR>anyway, remember to tip your servers at weddings and bar/t mitzvahs, etc!
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Gee, it would never occur to me to tip a waiter at a wedding. Isn't it against to law to tip federal employees- the mailman? Or are they fed empl anymore? I have never heard a tour guide solicit tips. I am not a sheltered, untraveled person. Where do you people with these awful experiences live? Or travel, other than Taos. Every heard of "no"?
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Many years ago I did weddings etc. at a private country club. It was a posh country club, and never did I recieve a tip, outside of what is included in the party. It would have never occured to me to have even expected one. The wedding party all ready paid for that expense. Don't you think this tipping thing is way out of hand?? I just tipped my mailman $10 for the Holidays. Outside of the paper boy which I can see tipping, that is about it for me.
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I've disagree with Emma, the country club waitress.<BR><BR>All country clubs I've been involved with do NOT have members giving tips directly to employees. Tips (or convenience charges) are added to the check, and distributed to the employees by the payroll office. In fact, most country clubs do not even use a cash system, all charges are placed on the members' accounts and billed monthly.<BR><BR>Furthermore, guests at a wedding are GUESTS. While they have no right to crap on the help, neither have they any responsibility to tip either. Emma's tip will be part of the surcharge placed on the check & paid for by the club member hosting the event.<BR><BR>It sounds like Emma is looking for double compensation, and maybe should be working in a hash-house instead of a country club.<BR><BR>Like it or not, when you work in a tip environment, you are at the mercy of those who decided to (or not to) tip you. If you wish guaranteed wages for your efforts (and I don't blame you if you do - I do) you should find another line of work where that happens, such as the cook or the manager.
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I would have been furious if ANY worker at my wedding accepted or looked for a tip from my guests! I tipped the valets $50 each at the beginning of the night, tipped the restroom attendant another $50, and tipped the coat check $50. On top of that, the Maitre d' got another $250. If I had seen a tip bowl anywhere in the place I would have taken it away immediately. I paid a fortune for my wedding and didn't expect to see my guests rummaging around looking for $1 bills all night. If you want a steady paycheck and not to rely on tips, get another job!
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jeez. you people sure are harsh.<BR><BR>first of all, i'm just a girl trying to work my way through college. there aren't that many jobs out there, especially in today's market, for a 19 year old without a college degree. waitressing is one of the only choices. <BR><BR>second of all, i am a WAITRESS, not the matre'd or the coatroom attendent. just because you tip one of the people doesn't mean we share it, obviously. <BR><BR>finally, there were no tips bowls out EVER, and i didn't stand rubbing my fingers together, i'm not trash contrary to what donna thinks. <BR><BR>all i'm saying is, servers probably make a lot less then you expect, and it's an EXTREMElY difficult job, we're on our feet for up to 14 hours at a time and then have to deal with unpleasent guests, while always being very polite and friendly. a tip, especially if you have gotten superb service and/or had the server run drinks for you often, is always appreciated and many times appropriate.<BR><BR>obviously, no one HAS to give a tip, but they should. <BR><BR>phew. the next time i work an event, you'll probably be one of those cheapskates who are nasty and order me around the whole night and i'll have to take it. see you then.
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I can't imagine that respectable caterers would allow staff to accept tips at a wedding. On the other hand if you are down at the VFW hall anything goes!
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emma, your argument is the same one used by telemarketers. "I'm just doing a job, trying to pay the bills", whine whine whine. Nobody is going tip at a wedding or banquet. It is the responsiblity of the host to ensure all the wait staff are properly tipped. Miss Manners would be quite amused by your claims.
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Emma, you are wrong again. Want some cheese to go with the whine?<BR><BR>Donna *never* called you trash, nor implied it. She merely stated that as the hostess, she makes sure the workers are taken care of, and doesn't want her guests having "to rummage" for $1 bills.<BR><BR>If you serve most of us, you'll find we return the same respect as we receive, whether we are the host or the guests. Your job is not easy. But I am just a poor family guy trying to put my kids through college, pay my mortgage, insurance, and taxes, and keep the family cars running, so you will have to excuse me if I decline to pony up money for each time I'm served when I know my host(ess) will be paying an added on tip based on the sales at the end of the night.<BR><BR>See, all of us have it hard sometimes.
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So, waiters and waitresses had no clue what the job was when they took it? Hours on your feet, being ordered around, all the indignities of putting up with obnoxious people? And the low pay (with the PROMISE of "tips"). <BR><BR>I was offered a salary at my job. I accepted it. I knew what the job entailed. I am paid a certain amount for the work I do. I don't get more money when each time I complete a task. And I don't get more money for taking on another task. <BR><BR>You accept a salary. If you are upset because you're not getting the tips (which are not guaranteed), you shouldn't have agreed to the salary.
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emma, <BR><BR>Since you are young and apparently inexperienced here's some info right from the source. Wedding etiquette: "Don't ask guests to contribute to the cost of the wedding. That includes setting up a cash bar or tipping." <BR><BR>Further here is more info about wedding tipping for the bride:<BR>"Never tip the waiters, waitresses and table captains. Generally one tip is given to the maitre d' and/or banquet manager and then divided up amongst the staff that worked that night." <BR><BR>So emma if you don't like the terms don't take the job. Same advice for anyone who takes a job and then complains about conditions. Just remember there's more than one way to make a living. If serving food were the only way to make ends meet we'd have more out-of-work waiters than computer techs!!!!
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I do believe it is illegal for mail carriers to accept tips.
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oy. <BR>x, you are insane when you compare waitresses to telemarketers: we provide a service that people enjoy, while telemarketers are just annoying. no one ever said being a waiter was not a valid job, the argument is over tipping, not the job itself. duh. <BR><BR>and if donna was going to tip the waitstaff seperately, that's terrific. most hosts, howerver, don't tip seperately. <BR><BR>furthermore, i am trying to put myself through college, pay my car insurance and repair bills for my very old but very necessary car, and pay my health insurance, all for much less than you make, i'm sure, rb. i work five jobs (three during the school year and two during the summer, while going to school part time). i also work at a very high end establishment where most of the guests can definitely afford to tip, even if they are too cheap to.<BR> so a tip for exceptional service IS appropriate. <BR><BR> and for those of you telling me to get another job, well, sorry but i already have a day job this is the only one i could get at night and weekends. <BR><BR><BR> additionally, re the subject of this thread, i have never aggressively pursued a tip, or even pursued one at all. i would never dream of asking for one, or implying one was expected, when i'm working. i just think people should be aware that tipping your server is a good idea.
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Tell them that aggressive people aren't going to get SHIT. Then report their behavior to the manager.
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