Am not sure if I can say what I really want to say.In all honesty, my husband and I have not been in any large city in three years. Can we manage BA and Argentina in 30-40 days?
Most people on this site are sophisticated, confident, and experienced travelers. Well, we are not. We are two little old shy people now living in the small town in Florida who have never been to South America. Yes, we are intimidated and to make things worse, neither of us speak Spanish. Terrible.
If we go to Argentina we’ll leave Dec 1 (or about) and stay over Christmas and come back to the US in early January. I dream about renting a small apartment in BA with a balcony overlooking the city and staying for a couple of weeks just there. We do not need luxury, not at all, just clean, clean and safe location.
Yes, we would also like to see smaller towns, perhaps Mendoza and heading NW as well. But, do we have to plan every day or every second in advance? It seems that most Americans plan months and months ahead. I simply cannot do that. Reading all the trip reports gave me many ideas where to go and what to see but now I am not sure if we can ‘rough it’ which has been our style of traveling to date. Can we?
What are we interested in? We love art, architecture, museums and music. We both love nature. Well, who does not? We still can easily manage not so strenuous hiking, gardens of any kind, and once a while an excellent dinner. But not every night. When I travel, my stomach says, slow down. And, my husband will simply not eat after 8:00 pm. (Ice-cream, yes and lots of it)
Confession: Unfortunately, I have a keen sense of smell (perhaps I am a dog?) and that has been my problem while traveling. As long as I can keep my stomachs in check, I am fine. Otherwise, the vacation is over.
I have been reading about your experiences and suggestions for hours and I love them all. Just wish I was 30 something to keep up the night life. That is another thing we may miss.
Most people on this site are sophisticated, confident, and experienced travelers. Well, we are not. We are two little old shy people now living in the small town in Florida who have never been to South America. Yes, we are intimidated and to make things worse, neither of us speak Spanish. Terrible.
If we go to Argentina we’ll leave Dec 1 (or about) and stay over Christmas and come back to the US in early January. I dream about renting a small apartment in BA with a balcony overlooking the city and staying for a couple of weeks just there. We do not need luxury, not at all, just clean, clean and safe location.
Yes, we would also like to see smaller towns, perhaps Mendoza and heading NW as well. But, do we have to plan every day or every second in advance? It seems that most Americans plan months and months ahead. I simply cannot do that. Reading all the trip reports gave me many ideas where to go and what to see but now I am not sure if we can ‘rough it’ which has been our style of traveling to date. Can we?
What are we interested in? We love art, architecture, museums and music. We both love nature. Well, who does not? We still can easily manage not so strenuous hiking, gardens of any kind, and once a while an excellent dinner. But not every night. When I travel, my stomach says, slow down. And, my husband will simply not eat after 8:00 pm. (Ice-cream, yes and lots of it)
Confession: Unfortunately, I have a keen sense of smell (perhaps I am a dog?) and that has been my problem while traveling. As long as I can keep my stomachs in check, I am fine. Otherwise, the vacation is over.
I have been reading about your experiences and suggestions for hours and I love them all. Just wish I was 30 something to keep up the night life. That is another thing we may miss.
Many people on this site are not sophisticated, confident or experienced travelers. Many are doing a trip for the first time. We all had to start somewhere , what better place than Buenos Aires !
OK... first things first..
We lived in Florida for a year, then on to another state then to Buenos Aires. I was raised in the South and lived in NYC. I have traveled quite a lot in my life and lived in quite few places.. I will say that the people in Buenos Aires are among the nicest and friendliest and kindest that I have ever met.
When I am having a bad day adjusting to expat life, all I have to do is go down to the park with my dog and some sweet person, will cheer me up , sometimes just by asking if they can pet the dog, then watching how sweet and happy they are with him.
This is a city of people who love music, love babies and love to laugh. They have been through hard times and bad times and they value family and laughter.
You couldn't pick a better place to visit.
I arrived here with my husband and the dog and we couldn't speak Spanish .. we speak it now, thanks to the immersion method :- ) and I am sure we give the people here a laugh with how badly we speak it, but we were never treated badly because we couldn't.
Learn the basics, Thank you, Please and a few phrases.. you will be fine.
Renting an apartment is a great idea. You can have that little place to call home for those weeks and you can stay in and rest and cook if you wish, or not . Much better than a hotel for an extended stay.
Look at www.apartmentsba.com
www.buenosaireshabitat.com
You can get clean clean and safe location.. plus some.
Apartments have a maid that comes once a week, usually a safe , a/c etc. You move in and enjoy. Be sure there is A/C in the bedroom and the rest of the apt, you will be here when it is pretty hot.
No, you don't have to plan every minute.
We usually sketch out a vague plan of what we would Like to do and we are content if we get to some of the things on that list . This place is huge, you won't see everything ..
There are over 100 museums in the city of Buenos Aires.
There are free concerts and even the ones you pay for are well priced, all over town.. all sorts of music.
In the city, you can go to the Ecological Reserve, The Japanese Gardens, The Botanical Gardens which are getting some wonderful improvements right now and the Rose Gardens.
In addition are the amazing parks that run along Libertador in Recoleta, from the Belle Artes Museum towards Palermo.
You can walk all over this city. Everyone does.
There are many cafes and restaurants that are open earlier and if you have an apt, you can bring in food, or cook.
Ice cream is No Problem here lol ...
If you are a dog, we might be related. I also have to deal with a keen sense of smell and there are times when it is assaulted but not enough to remember when or why. This is a big city, like any big city in the world.. maybe some of the sidewalks need work, the drivers scare you to death but it is still a huge city full of families and lovely people.
You will be fine.
My mother in law came here for the first time when she was in her 70s .. she came back about 5 times before she quit traveling.
I am not a senior yet but I can't keep up with the nightlife either so don't feel bad
Get a Rough Guides guide book and one other, Fodors will do.
Get a map .. that is really important .. for town and of the country.
Distances are great .. you will need to fly to many of the other towns, while you can take a high speed ferry to Colonia or Montevideo Uruguay .. for a day or overnight trip.
Tigre is a train ride from town..
I hope this helps get you started :- )
OK... first things first..
We lived in Florida for a year, then on to another state then to Buenos Aires. I was raised in the South and lived in NYC. I have traveled quite a lot in my life and lived in quite few places.. I will say that the people in Buenos Aires are among the nicest and friendliest and kindest that I have ever met.
When I am having a bad day adjusting to expat life, all I have to do is go down to the park with my dog and some sweet person, will cheer me up , sometimes just by asking if they can pet the dog, then watching how sweet and happy they are with him.
This is a city of people who love music, love babies and love to laugh. They have been through hard times and bad times and they value family and laughter.
You couldn't pick a better place to visit.
I arrived here with my husband and the dog and we couldn't speak Spanish .. we speak it now, thanks to the immersion method :- ) and I am sure we give the people here a laugh with how badly we speak it, but we were never treated badly because we couldn't.
Learn the basics, Thank you, Please and a few phrases.. you will be fine.
Renting an apartment is a great idea. You can have that little place to call home for those weeks and you can stay in and rest and cook if you wish, or not . Much better than a hotel for an extended stay.
Look at www.apartmentsba.com
www.buenosaireshabitat.com
You can get clean clean and safe location.. plus some.
Apartments have a maid that comes once a week, usually a safe , a/c etc. You move in and enjoy. Be sure there is A/C in the bedroom and the rest of the apt, you will be here when it is pretty hot.
No, you don't have to plan every minute.
We usually sketch out a vague plan of what we would Like to do and we are content if we get to some of the things on that list . This place is huge, you won't see everything ..
There are over 100 museums in the city of Buenos Aires.
There are free concerts and even the ones you pay for are well priced, all over town.. all sorts of music.
In the city, you can go to the Ecological Reserve, The Japanese Gardens, The Botanical Gardens which are getting some wonderful improvements right now and the Rose Gardens.
In addition are the amazing parks that run along Libertador in Recoleta, from the Belle Artes Museum towards Palermo.
You can walk all over this city. Everyone does.
There are many cafes and restaurants that are open earlier and if you have an apt, you can bring in food, or cook.
Ice cream is No Problem here lol ...
If you are a dog, we might be related. I also have to deal with a keen sense of smell and there are times when it is assaulted but not enough to remember when or why. This is a big city, like any big city in the world.. maybe some of the sidewalks need work, the drivers scare you to death but it is still a huge city full of families and lovely people.
You will be fine.
My mother in law came here for the first time when she was in her 70s .. she came back about 5 times before she quit traveling.
I am not a senior yet but I can't keep up with the nightlife either so don't feel bad

Get a Rough Guides guide book and one other, Fodors will do.
Get a map .. that is really important .. for town and of the country.
Distances are great .. you will need to fly to many of the other towns, while you can take a high speed ferry to Colonia or Montevideo Uruguay .. for a day or overnight trip.
Tigre is a train ride from town..
I hope this helps get you started :- )
Hi, Stephany & hubby!
Yes, 30 or 40 days are fine to "manage BA and Argentina".
About not knowing Spanish, just learn a few key words and you'll be fine. If you are in a touristy area, you may not even need that.
If you come on Dec. 1, I believe it would be better to go first to Mendoza and/or the NW and then to BA. Before Xmas, it is low season in those destinations. We locals usually take our summer holidays after Xmas.
Renting an apartment should not be a problem at all, but getting one "with a balcony overlooking the city" may narrow significantly the choices available and increase the cost.
Much like you, I am unable to understand the planning of "every day or every second in advance". You don't have to do that at all, so you'll be fine, particularly considering your stay is comparatively long.
You certainly can "rough it", if you are so inclined. Our country offers all the alternatives.
You'll also find here "art, architecture, museums and music" and, of course, nature.
It will be rather warm, but, since you live in Florida, that should not be a problem.
You'll get many choices for "an excellent dinner". Most good restaurants should be open just a little after 8 PM.
Lots of great ice cream is most certainly available in BA!!!
Continue your research, but perhaps you need to decide as soon as possible when you'll be in BA, in order to rent an apartment.
Further questions are, or course, most welcome.
Have a great time in our country.
Yes, 30 or 40 days are fine to "manage BA and Argentina".
About not knowing Spanish, just learn a few key words and you'll be fine. If you are in a touristy area, you may not even need that.
If you come on Dec. 1, I believe it would be better to go first to Mendoza and/or the NW and then to BA. Before Xmas, it is low season in those destinations. We locals usually take our summer holidays after Xmas.
Renting an apartment should not be a problem at all, but getting one "with a balcony overlooking the city" may narrow significantly the choices available and increase the cost.
Much like you, I am unable to understand the planning of "every day or every second in advance". You don't have to do that at all, so you'll be fine, particularly considering your stay is comparatively long.
You certainly can "rough it", if you are so inclined. Our country offers all the alternatives.
You'll also find here "art, architecture, museums and music" and, of course, nature.
It will be rather warm, but, since you live in Florida, that should not be a problem.
You'll get many choices for "an excellent dinner". Most good restaurants should be open just a little after 8 PM.
Lots of great ice cream is most certainly available in BA!!!
Continue your research, but perhaps you need to decide as soon as possible when you'll be in BA, in order to rent an apartment.
Further questions are, or course, most welcome.
Have a great time in our country.
Scarlett and avrooster
Thank you for your encouragement and links for the apartment. Apartment without a view is ok I was just ‘dreaming’ but yes I need to decide when to rent quite soon. We can fly directly to Mendoza via BA or Santiago. Good idea. I guess Mendoza is not going to be as hot in early December. Florida was brutal this summer. Am looking at the ‘flight map’ (below) just to get an idea where to go from Mendoza.
I was thinking Mendoza-Salta-Iguazu-BA. Is it too much? In Salta, we could rent a car for a few to explore the region? Or bus it?
Not sure if Dec. is a good time to go to the falls. May be we should leave that for another trip and do a high speed ferry to Colonia or Montevideo - as Scarlett suggested -instead. Truly, we do not have to see everything on this trip.
I will NOT tell my hubby about great ice cream in BA
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http://www.allaboutar.com/transporta...lights_map.htm
Thank you for your encouragement and links for the apartment. Apartment without a view is ok I was just ‘dreaming’ but yes I need to decide when to rent quite soon. We can fly directly to Mendoza via BA or Santiago. Good idea. I guess Mendoza is not going to be as hot in early December. Florida was brutal this summer. Am looking at the ‘flight map’ (below) just to get an idea where to go from Mendoza.
I was thinking Mendoza-Salta-Iguazu-BA. Is it too much? In Salta, we could rent a car for a few to explore the region? Or bus it?
Not sure if Dec. is a good time to go to the falls. May be we should leave that for another trip and do a high speed ferry to Colonia or Montevideo - as Scarlett suggested -instead. Truly, we do not have to see everything on this trip.
I will NOT tell my hubby about great ice cream in BA
. http://www.allaboutar.com/transporta...lights_map.htm
Hi Stephany - You have already got a lot of great advice from scarlett and avrooster whci I will try not to repeat. We spent 3 months in Argentina last year and loved it. highlights for us were:
Salta and the NW (I would definitely recommend renting a car so as to make best use of your time there).
Iguazu - definitely worth a couple of days of anyones time (try to get across to the Brazilian side of the falls as well)
The Valdez peninsular is a great place to see whales close up (and you will be going at the right time of year).
BA is one of those cities where there is lots to see and do but it is just great to wander around aimlessly and soak u the atmosphere. Good food (I didn't like ice cream until I came to BA!)
It is a big country and the distances are vast so it pays to spend a fair bit of time in each region. Air travel is expensive so we used the buses to get around the country. They are very efficient, extremely comfortable and around 1/3 of the cost of flying. It is also very easy to make up your itinerary as you go
We were on a long trip and travelling on a budget (aka roughing it!) so we tended to stay at hostels and guest house (in private rooms as opposed to dormitories) and stayed in some very nice places. they are also a great place to meet other travellers and get soem new ideas fro places to visit (contrary to popular belief hostels are not entirely populated by 20 something backpackers!). www.hostelworld.com
Here is a link to our blog of our travels - Entries 69 onwards cover our time in Argentina
http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog...5860/tpod.html
Have a great time in avrooster's country!
Salta and the NW (I would definitely recommend renting a car so as to make best use of your time there).
Iguazu - definitely worth a couple of days of anyones time (try to get across to the Brazilian side of the falls as well)
The Valdez peninsular is a great place to see whales close up (and you will be going at the right time of year).
BA is one of those cities where there is lots to see and do but it is just great to wander around aimlessly and soak u the atmosphere. Good food (I didn't like ice cream until I came to BA!)
It is a big country and the distances are vast so it pays to spend a fair bit of time in each region. Air travel is expensive so we used the buses to get around the country. They are very efficient, extremely comfortable and around 1/3 of the cost of flying. It is also very easy to make up your itinerary as you go
We were on a long trip and travelling on a budget (aka roughing it!) so we tended to stay at hostels and guest house (in private rooms as opposed to dormitories) and stayed in some very nice places. they are also a great place to meet other travellers and get soem new ideas fro places to visit (contrary to popular belief hostels are not entirely populated by 20 something backpackers!). www.hostelworld.com
Here is a link to our blog of our travels - Entries 69 onwards cover our time in Argentina
http://www.travelpod.com/travel-blog...5860/tpod.html
Have a great time in avrooster's country!
Crellston,
Your trip is overwhelming. I will read your reports again. Wonderful photos.
Finding an apartment in BA is going to be the hardest part of this trip planning. For me, anyway. Not sure, what I should budget. Is $80/night reasonable? The prices seem to vary dramatically. I can go a little higher because I want to make the trip to BA special. I am leaning towards Palermo; which section of Palermo I have no clue. How is the Las Cañitas area?
The 'ice-cream budget’ for my hubby is unlimited.
Your trip is overwhelming. I will read your reports again. Wonderful photos.
Finding an apartment in BA is going to be the hardest part of this trip planning. For me, anyway. Not sure, what I should budget. Is $80/night reasonable? The prices seem to vary dramatically. I can go a little higher because I want to make the trip to BA special. I am leaning towards Palermo; which section of Palermo I have no clue. How is the Las Cañitas area?
The 'ice-cream budget’ for my hubby is unlimited.
I'll cover whatever I can:
Perhaps you could consider a bus (no direct flights) from Mendoza to Salta and flying to Iguazú and later to BA.
Check out Isabel, a local independent travel agent I usually recommend, by typing her name in the search feature of TA's Argentina forum: http://tinyurl.com/nw9f4
If you like what you read about her, contact her for local travel and advice, but I understand there is a cost for her services.
You can rent a car in Salta, but, if your budget allows, I suggest you consider hiring Angie, a local independent guide. You can research her in the same way I suggested for Isabel.
The Iguazú Falls are a must-see. Colonia certainly is not.
Let hubby find out by himself about the great ice cream, or your budget deficit will balloon. LOL!!
For first-time visitors, I usually suggest staying in Recoleta/Barrio Norte or Palermo.
Being a local, I'm quite ignorant about short-term apartment rentals, apart from what I read here.
Have a great time in our country.
Perhaps you could consider a bus (no direct flights) from Mendoza to Salta and flying to Iguazú and later to BA.
Check out Isabel, a local independent travel agent I usually recommend, by typing her name in the search feature of TA's Argentina forum: http://tinyurl.com/nw9f4
If you like what you read about her, contact her for local travel and advice, but I understand there is a cost for her services.
You can rent a car in Salta, but, if your budget allows, I suggest you consider hiring Angie, a local independent guide. You can research her in the same way I suggested for Isabel.
The Iguazú Falls are a must-see. Colonia certainly is not.
Let hubby find out by himself about the great ice cream, or your budget deficit will balloon. LOL!!
For first-time visitors, I usually suggest staying in Recoleta/Barrio Norte or Palermo.
Being a local, I'm quite ignorant about short-term apartment rentals, apart from what I read here.
Have a great time in our country.
I agree with Recoleta or Palermo being the best for a first time visitor.
Look at the apartment rental sites that I posted links for and see what you can find at your price, see what looks good to you.
Apts are priced by the night/week/month.. you will definitely get a better deal renting an apt over a hotel.
Las Canitas is nice but go for dinner and wander one afternoon, I am not sure you would enjoy staying there. It is very busy weekends and nights with all the restaurants and has a busy singles kind of vibe that I don't especially enjoy.
Palermo Botanico might be more pleasant for you ..
We rented apartments while we were househunting and having our apt renovated, but we always kept them here in Recoleta where our home is.
Just be sure to stay with a well-known company, I am hearing stories about fake rental companies lately ..
Also .. being here for a month or so .. if you want to break up the BA stay and have a day in a quiet place, Colonia is definitely pleasant , as is Tigre and they are easy to get to without flying. But of course, everyone knows there is no comparison to Iguazu .. you will have to fly there and the Sheraton is the only hotel In the park, there are places outside and I don't know anything about them.
2 days, one night in Iguazu would be sufficient.
Tell your husband to memorize these words:
Helado
Chocolate Suisse
Banana y chocolate

Look at the apartment rental sites that I posted links for and see what you can find at your price, see what looks good to you.
Apts are priced by the night/week/month.. you will definitely get a better deal renting an apt over a hotel.
Las Canitas is nice but go for dinner and wander one afternoon, I am not sure you would enjoy staying there. It is very busy weekends and nights with all the restaurants and has a busy singles kind of vibe that I don't especially enjoy.
Palermo Botanico might be more pleasant for you ..
We rented apartments while we were househunting and having our apt renovated, but we always kept them here in Recoleta where our home is.
Just be sure to stay with a well-known company, I am hearing stories about fake rental companies lately ..
Also .. being here for a month or so .. if you want to break up the BA stay and have a day in a quiet place, Colonia is definitely pleasant , as is Tigre and they are easy to get to without flying. But of course, everyone knows there is no comparison to Iguazu .. you will have to fly there and the Sheraton is the only hotel In the park, there are places outside and I don't know anything about them.
2 days, one night in Iguazu would be sufficient.
Tell your husband to memorize these words:
Helado
Chocolate Suisse
Banana y chocolate

Hola Stephany,
You should be able to find a nice apartment for a month @ $80.oo day (~US$ 2,400-2,500). Try this site for a 2 bedroom appartment in a great neighborhood in Palermo: it is often rented, and recommended, by one of the major posters to this site (Dr. Dawggy)
http://www.shortstayinba.com/
I would suggest a 2 night trip to Iguazu Falls which is an amazing experience. If you have the budget, stay in the Sheraton there, and with both budget and patience, getting a Brazilian Visa would allow you to see both sides of the Falls, but even if only the Arg. side, the site is incredible.
You can make many plans from BsAs, once you have the feel for the place. We do not know Spanish, but did learn 'traveller's Spanish,' which was useful, especially outside of the capital. OR
You might consider Espanol Andando = 4 sessions (group or as a couple)of learning the basics of the language. Class is located in different barrios of BsAs, in a cafe or restaurant. Espanol Andando combines language, sightseeing and learning by meeting in the San Telmo, Palermo, Recoleta, Retiro, and Congreso neighborhoods. There you learn Spanish basics in situ; taking the bus, interpreting the newspaper, finding tickets at the train station, and using the supermarket. It was fun and it was helpful.
www.espanol-andando.com
Have fun with your planning. Best, ~MarnieWDC
You should be able to find a nice apartment for a month @ $80.oo day (~US$ 2,400-2,500). Try this site for a 2 bedroom appartment in a great neighborhood in Palermo: it is often rented, and recommended, by one of the major posters to this site (Dr. Dawggy)
http://www.shortstayinba.com/
I would suggest a 2 night trip to Iguazu Falls which is an amazing experience. If you have the budget, stay in the Sheraton there, and with both budget and patience, getting a Brazilian Visa would allow you to see both sides of the Falls, but even if only the Arg. side, the site is incredible.
You can make many plans from BsAs, once you have the feel for the place. We do not know Spanish, but did learn 'traveller's Spanish,' which was useful, especially outside of the capital. OR
You might consider Espanol Andando = 4 sessions (group or as a couple)of learning the basics of the language. Class is located in different barrios of BsAs, in a cafe or restaurant. Espanol Andando combines language, sightseeing and learning by meeting in the San Telmo, Palermo, Recoleta, Retiro, and Congreso neighborhoods. There you learn Spanish basics in situ; taking the bus, interpreting the newspaper, finding tickets at the train station, and using the supermarket. It was fun and it was helpful.
www.espanol-andando.com
Have fun with your planning. Best, ~MarnieWDC
Here, I thought Las Cañitas is in Palermo. Shows you how much I know!
Scarlett, you say’ Palermo Botanico might be more pleasant for you ..’ I love the name already. Recoleta sounds very pleasant as well. And more quiet, if I can still read in between lines correctly. It really does not matter which one. What does ‘Helado’ mean? Should I arrange for an ‘ice-cream tour’?
Marnie, not knowing Spanish is truly intimidating to me. My short term memory is gone.But I will try my 'bestest'. Believe it or not I used to speak several languages and now do not speak any. Oh well.
Avrooser, I was wondering how to get from Mendoza to Salta. Now I know. I did find Angie/Giena/Flinstones and will look up Isabel. Budget is a funny thing and I refuse to think about it at now. If I spend too much one day I can live on cheese and crackers the second. That is perfectly fine with me. The most important thing for us is to stay healthy and safe. My hubby says ‘let’s go, I will adjust and eat at midnight.’ He is so easy to please. But, I will not tell him about ice-cream just because he would never tell me about the best pastry shops and chocolates.
I read all these reports and get lightheaded. I would love to see Patagonia, gosh, that must be a wonder. But perhaps not the best time of the year to visit. Thank you, again, for your suggestions. If you ever need help in Florida, please let me know. May be I can be of some help.
Scarlett, you say’ Palermo Botanico might be more pleasant for you ..’ I love the name already. Recoleta sounds very pleasant as well. And more quiet, if I can still read in between lines correctly. It really does not matter which one. What does ‘Helado’ mean? Should I arrange for an ‘ice-cream tour’?
Marnie, not knowing Spanish is truly intimidating to me. My short term memory is gone.But I will try my 'bestest'. Believe it or not I used to speak several languages and now do not speak any. Oh well.
Avrooser, I was wondering how to get from Mendoza to Salta. Now I know. I did find Angie/Giena/Flinstones and will look up Isabel. Budget is a funny thing and I refuse to think about it at now. If I spend too much one day I can live on cheese and crackers the second. That is perfectly fine with me. The most important thing for us is to stay healthy and safe. My hubby says ‘let’s go, I will adjust and eat at midnight.’ He is so easy to please. But, I will not tell him about ice-cream just because he would never tell me about the best pastry shops and chocolates.
I read all these reports and get lightheaded. I would love to see Patagonia, gosh, that must be a wonder. But perhaps not the best time of the year to visit. Thank you, again, for your suggestions. If you ever need help in Florida, please let me know. May be I can be of some help.
Las Canitas is on the edge of Palermo and Belgrano..
Palermo Botanico is the area around the Botanical Gardens and walkable distance from Recoleta.. if you are a walker.
Recoleta is lovely, can be more expensive and all the neighborhoods have a quiet spot or two.. some days I wish there were more quiet spots
Today we were in Belgrano R ... I want to move again lol.
All you could hear as you strolled the streets were birds singing .. ahhhh lovely ...
Helado - Ice Cream
Munchies, Volta and Freddo will get you started..
The great thing about this place is quality of food and price.
A pizza for 2 is about 23 pesos ... $7 US
Groceries are a savings for sure .. you can eat in on nights that you might feel the budget is getting a stretch.
I am a English Speaking North American .. and Now speak pitiful Castellano and I think my English is going
Palermo Botanico is the area around the Botanical Gardens and walkable distance from Recoleta.. if you are a walker.
Recoleta is lovely, can be more expensive and all the neighborhoods have a quiet spot or two.. some days I wish there were more quiet spots

Today we were in Belgrano R ... I want to move again lol.
All you could hear as you strolled the streets were birds singing .. ahhhh lovely ...
Helado - Ice Cream
Munchies, Volta and Freddo will get you started..
The great thing about this place is quality of food and price.
A pizza for 2 is about 23 pesos ... $7 US
Groceries are a savings for sure .. you can eat in on nights that you might feel the budget is getting a stretch.
I am a English Speaking North American .. and Now speak pitiful Castellano and I think my English is going

Stephany: early Dec. is probably THE best time to visit our South and, with any luck, the weather should be perfect and not at all warm. I didn't suggest it because you seemed set on visiting Mendoza, Salta and Iguazú. Until Xmas it is low season out there, with scant occupancy in hotels.
You can rent a car and drive all over, but keep in mind no cars with automatic gears are available for rent.
The flight on LAN (avoid Aerolíneas) takes two hours, pick up your rental car and you are all set to go anywhere.
I'm going to Bariloche for a few days in late Nov. and expect to have a wonderful time.
I suggest you spend most of your holiday in our South and go to Iguazú and our NW some other time, during your summer (our winter).
Have a great time in our wonderful South.
You can rent a car and drive all over, but keep in mind no cars with automatic gears are available for rent.
The flight on LAN (avoid Aerolíneas) takes two hours, pick up your rental car and you are all set to go anywhere.
I'm going to Bariloche for a few days in late Nov. and expect to have a wonderful time.
I suggest you spend most of your holiday in our South and go to Iguazú and our NW some other time, during your summer (our winter).
Have a great time in our wonderful South.
Scarlett,
Belgrano R... (?) sounds really lovely.
I must get my act together and find a place to stay in BA soon. I miss those days when I read one travel book, made reservations by Fax and hoped for the best. Somehow, it always worked out.
Belgrano R... (?) sounds really lovely.
I must get my act together and find a place to stay in BA soon. I miss those days when I read one travel book, made reservations by Fax and hoped for the best. Somehow, it always worked out.
Oh, Dear Avrooster! I am not set on anything. I swear, one travel site stated that the weather in S. Argentina in December is the same as in Alaska. I could not figure this one out so this is why I thought I settle on Mendoza.
I am still totally confused about the weather patterns in Argentina. I need to study more.
Yes, I would rather go South. Pantagonia is talking to me. I googled Bariloche and now I know where it is.
Oh, this is really exciting. Thank you so much. You made my day.
I am still totally confused about the weather patterns in Argentina. I need to study more.
Yes, I would rather go South. Pantagonia is talking to me. I googled Bariloche and now I know where it is.
Oh, this is really exciting. Thank you so much. You made my day.Stephany: December is late spring here, the equivalent of June in the US. I don't know about what part of our South that travel site you read was talking about, but, as far South as Bariloche, the weather is wonderful in Dec., with any luck, of course.
Of course, the farther South you go, the colder it is supposed to be.
Of course, the farther South you go, the colder it is supposed to be.
Avrooster,
Bariloche sounds like the perfect spot for us. Cool is good also. I had enough of hot weather.
This is what I read about the weather in Patagonia. Perhaps they are describing the Penguin country or around Ushuaia or El Calafte.
'Patagonia has weather like Alaska, with a mix of sun, rain and wind on almost any given day. From October to mid April the temperatures vary from the 40s to mid 60s during the day, sometimes a bit higher for stretches when the sun stays out. At night it will typically be in the 30s but can drop down into the 20s. The wind in Patagonia is highly variable and can be very strong; you should be sure to pack some type of shell over layer or other wind protecting jacket. We provide a detailed packing list with all of our itineraries so you'll know how to prepare. During the Patagonian summer months, you enjoy long hours of daylight. '
Bariloche sounds like the perfect spot for us. Cool is good also. I had enough of hot weather.
This is what I read about the weather in Patagonia. Perhaps they are describing the Penguin country or around Ushuaia or El Calafte.
'Patagonia has weather like Alaska, with a mix of sun, rain and wind on almost any given day. From October to mid April the temperatures vary from the 40s to mid 60s during the day, sometimes a bit higher for stretches when the sun stays out. At night it will typically be in the 30s but can drop down into the 20s. The wind in Patagonia is highly variable and can be very strong; you should be sure to pack some type of shell over layer or other wind protecting jacket. We provide a detailed packing list with all of our itineraries so you'll know how to prepare. During the Patagonian summer months, you enjoy long hours of daylight. '
Wow, posting at 4:30 am ! Someone has more energy than I do 
Stephany, we have friends with a home in Bariloche, overlooking the lake and he leaves in Dec and doesn't come back til late April or May .. I have photos of them in hiking shorts and tee shirt, taking some hikes .. it looks like the weather is just about as perfect as it can get..

Stephany, we have friends with a home in Bariloche, overlooking the lake and he leaves in Dec and doesn't come back til late April or May .. I have photos of them in hiking shorts and tee shirt, taking some hikes .. it looks like the weather is just about as perfect as it can get..
Hi Scarlett,
hard to tell if we actually need a house or can meet his terms? But it sounds intriguing though. I just started to look for an apartment in BA and checked VRBO to get acquainted with the area Can you tell what are your first impressions?
1. This apt is located on Guido and Juncell (Guido becomes Tomowano (sp?) It is smallish, no washer, no balcony but it ha a computer and the owner is quite helful.
http://www.vrbo.com/125955
2. Can't tell if this building is located Recoleta. It has a washer and balcony, but no Wi-FI; no booking since October; no reviews; The lady is from GA.
http://www.vrbo.com/240365
There are others on VRBO, super modern which I personally like but again, hard to tell. So, tomorrow I’ll check a couple of rental companies. Thanks for your help.
hard to tell if we actually need a house or can meet his terms? But it sounds intriguing though. I just started to look for an apartment in BA and checked VRBO to get acquainted with the area Can you tell what are your first impressions?
1. This apt is located on Guido and Juncell (Guido becomes Tomowano (sp?) It is smallish, no washer, no balcony but it ha a computer and the owner is quite helful.
http://www.vrbo.com/125955
2. Can't tell if this building is located Recoleta. It has a washer and balcony, but no Wi-FI; no booking since October; no reviews; The lady is from GA.
http://www.vrbo.com/240365
There are others on VRBO, super modern which I personally like but again, hard to tell. So, tomorrow I’ll check a couple of rental companies. Thanks for your help.
Stephany: how do you know http://www.vrbo.com/125955 is on Guido and Juncal? Did you contact the owner?
No washer should not be a problem. There are any number of places to wash your clothes.
The Xmas period is apparently available, which would be great for you, should you decide to go first to our South.
I don't like the location of the other one. It most certainly is NOT located in Recoleta. Seems to be somewhere in "El Centro".
In the Bariloche area, I would, if I were you, stay in "cabañas" (cabins). Before Xmas, availability should be ample, as I explained in an earlier post.
No washer should not be a problem. There are any number of places to wash your clothes.
The Xmas period is apparently available, which would be great for you, should you decide to go first to our South.
I don't like the location of the other one. It most certainly is NOT located in Recoleta. Seems to be somewhere in "El Centro".
In the Bariloche area, I would, if I were you, stay in "cabañas" (cabins). Before Xmas, availability should be ample, as I explained in an earlier post.
