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Old Feb 13th, 2025 | 01:51 PM
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1st draft New Zealand

I’ve always had New Zealand high on the list, and it’s finally happening. We’re going late Jan – mid Feb 2026, for about 4 weeks. We could add a couple more days if needed. We’re interested in photography, views, short/easy walks, nature, wildlife, birding, coastal views, mountains, good food, wineries, hope we can do a little bit of everything. Here is a very, very first draft itinerary, but I need a starting point. We don’t like 1-night stays, and even 2 are too rushed for us, so we’re aiming for 3 min when possible. We're a couple in our late 50s early 60s.

Land in Auckland, 2 nights there
3n/2d in Rotorua – seeing the Waitomo Glowworm Caves on the way there
2n Tongariro NP – technically just a full day
1n Wellington, with a ferry the next day
3n Abel Tasman NP
1n Punakaiki
3n/2d Franz Josef glacier area
4n/3d Wanaka
3n Te Anau
4n/3d Aoraki Mt Cook
2n Oamaru, with the full day in between for Dunedin
1n Christchurch, with flight home the next day

Let me know how you’d tweak this, there is sooo much to see and so little time! Thanks.
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Two nights in Auckland is not a lot of time, especially if this includes your arrival day. There's plenty to see and do in Auckland, as well as the islands on the Hauraki Gulf. My recommendation would be 4-5 nights.

Three nights in Te Anau is good, especially if you are looking to do day hikes as there are plenty of options. You can spend more time if you want more hiking.

I would reorganize your itinerary so that Dunedin follows Te Anau and go via the Catlins. There's plenty of places you can stop along the way; it was one of our favorite drives in New Zealand. Not even sure Te Anau to Aoraki Mount Cook is even doable in a single day given the distance. It took us almost an entire day to get from Aoraki to Queenstown, although we did stop along the way.

I assume your one night in Christchurch is simply to be close to the airport for your flight out; otherwise, you could spend more time.

I haven't been to the other places on your list so cannot comment on those.
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Thanks!
Per google, we could get from Te Anau to Aoraki Mount Cook in about 5 hrs. So doable in a day, I'd think. I tried to include the Catlins in this itinerary, but I did not know how. If we do Te Anau - the Catlins - Dunedin, I'd love a couple of nights in the area to include Stewart island....but I'd need to cut some time from somewhere. Where?
I guess Te Anau - Dunedin - Mt Cook - Christchurch is an option, and I think I can do that. Without Stewart island though...
It pains me that we don't have much time in the Marlborough area for the wineries. Maybe we'll cut 1-2 days from the mountains/lakes and add them to either wineries or Auckland. Decisions, decisions...

Thanks again, this gave me some ideas I can work with.
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xyz99, one thing I thought I should mention about drive times is that the driving will take longer than what google says. The driving is slower, and I guarantee you will want to make many stops for photo opportunities. And for lunch/bathroom stops. It took us almost a day, too, to drive from Aoraki/Mt. Cook to Queenstown.

Three nights in Te Anau is a good idea if you want to do more hiking, and also in case you have a day of rain, like we did. I initially scheduled 2 nights, and then our Milford Sound trip was cancelled because of rain, so luckily our motel had availability so we could add an extra night at the last minute.

For your nights at Wanaka and Mt. Cook, you could take one night away from each place to add somewhere else. That really depends on how much hiking you want to do. So it's a personal decision. I like your allocations for Abel Tasman, Punakaiki, and FJ.

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Old Feb 14th, 2025 | 07:09 AM
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It pains me that we don't have much time in the Marlborough area for the wineries. Maybe we'll cut 1-2 days from the mountains/lakes and add them to either wineries or Auckland. Decisions, decisions...
While we enjoyed our stay in Marlborough, if that doesn't fit in your itinerary, there are other opportunities for visiting wineries -- including Central Otago (which you should be able to reach from Wanaka) and Waiheke Island (from Auckland), and near Abel Tasman depending on where you stay. We visited some Central Otago wineries on first trip and Waiheke Island in 2023.

Not to add to the challenge, but we did enjoy Wellington. Give yourself at least enough time there for the fabulous Te Papa museum. The botanic garden and Zealandia ecosanctuary are also highlights if the weather is good.

Decisions, decisons indeed!
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Good to know about wineries, we'll definitely include Central Otago, and hopefully one around Abel Tasman. Do you have a TR from your first trip? I'll look, I just read your 2nd one and took notes
We'll have about 1/2 day in Wellington, and given my interest in birds it will be for Zealandia. But if weather does not cooperate, it's going to be Te Papa museum. Depending on how long it takes us to get to Wellington maybe we can fit in both if they are close by, I haven't checked locations, so we'll see.
I'm already at 30 days on the land there, I don't think I can stretch this any longer... add to this 2 days on the way going there, and probably 2 more coming home, this will be looong, our longest trip yet. Oh well...
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Wow, how to see and do it all, right? I might confuse you more. But here goes...

I agree with tripplanner 001, that you might consider reorganizing your route/itinerary, to go from Te Anau to Dunedin via the Catlins, then Oamaru-Aoraki Mt. Cook-brief stop in Tekapo, before continuing on to Christchurch. Though given your limited time, I would recommend just driving from Te Anau to the Nugget Point Lighthouse parking lot, walking to the lighthouse, then, when done, continuing on to Dunedin via the coast as much as possible (I can offer more details, if needed), thereby seeing the pretty Dunedin south coast and walking the Tunnel Beach Track (which is this year has so far been closed due to slips caused by October 2024 flooding). But if you had more time, I would absolutely agree with tripplanner001, that the Catlins would easily merit a 2 to 3 full-days visit.

I would stay two nights in Dunedin, though this is not an impartial recommendation as I live here and have learned to love many things about it. This said, it has highly unpredictable weather, that teeter-totters between good to great and from fair to fairly awful. This said, Feb. and March tend to be our warmest, most-settled-weather months. We are best known for wildlife, heritage architecture, our Saturday morning farmers market, some of the South Island's best surfing beaches, and two popular breweries.

FYI: To visit Stewart Island, you'd drive from Te Anau to Invercargill to Bluff (home to an aluminum smelter and Bluff oyster farms), where you'd catch the ferry. OR you would skip Bluff and drive to Invercargill Airport and fly to Stewart Island. While I was there I met several people who'd flown in for the day just to take a guided walk of Ulva Island with Ruggedy Range tours. Later, that afternoon they flew back to Invercargill Airport, then continued on with their journeys. The tour was great. We saw all the species we'd hoped to see, and even got a bonus of seeing a kiwi (as they can be seen foraging during the day there). Over the next few days, I returned to Ulva Island for more solo birdwatching, but also spent a lot time seeing birds on tracks close to Oban and nearby Golden Bay. I did not walk the Rakiura Track. I also did a night-time kiwi spotting cruise to Paterson Inlet, where we disembarked at Little Golry Cove and walked to a beach to search for kiwis--for this, you need more time. I have both taken the ferry to and flown from Stewart Island.

Because you, like me, enjoy birdwatching, I should mention the possibility of spotting kiwis in the wild in Okarito Forest near FJ. I've done this tour as well. You can also take a kiwi spotting tour from Auckland. I've not done this, but met someone who had, which is how I learned about this. Other Auckland-based companies also offer kiwi-spotting tours. They are five kiwi species, the rarest being the Rowi, found in Okarito Forest. You can also see it in captivity in the Wildlife Centre in FJ. Zoos also have kiwi houses that mimic the nighttime environment during which the kiwi is active.

I also agree with tripplanner and ms_go that you'd enjoy the islands of Hauraki Gulf and the water views from these islands (Waiheke wineries or Tiritiri Matangi birdlife and walks, possibly Rangitoto). In addition, there is a gannet colony at Muriwai Beach on Auckland's West Coast. The West Auckland coast beaches are covered with black volcanic sand. To get to Auckland's West Coast, you'd need to drive or take a tour. Greater Auckland is vast. It's not only NZ most populous city, but NZ's largest city areawise, followed by Dunedin.

I also second ms_go in also recommending Central Otago wineries. In my opinion, the NZ's most scenic wine regions are Central Otago and Waiheke. Gibbston Valley would be easiest and not far out of your way, as it's close to Queenstown. Amisfield and Mora wineries are both near Lake Hakes so not out of your way; both are excellent. Keep in mind, there are also wineries in and around Wanaka (don't miss Rippon) and between Nelson and Abel Tasman. The ferry from Wellington will drop you off in Picton. The most expedient route to ATNP will take you through the outskirts of Blenheim so you could check out Hunter Wines or Nautilus Estate. Johanneshof Winery is only an 8-minute drive from Picton on the road to Blenheim.

If you change your itinerary and go from Oamaru to Aoraki Mt. Cook, you could visit a winery in Waitaki Valley or visit the tasting room in Kurow. This tiny wine region produces excellent pinot noir and riesling (two of the varieties that CO is also known for). One of the best pinots I've had was a Valli made from grapes from Waitaki Valley. Grant Taylor, Valli founder and winemaker, is one of Central Otago's (and NZ's) best winemakers. You can also taste Valli wines at the Kinross tasting room in Gibbston Valley, Central Otago.

I should point out that wineries and tasting rooms will often offer tastings from associated wineries that are from outside their region.

I also agree with ms_go, that Wellington's Te Papa Museum, Botanic Garden and Zealandia are wonderful. You'd need a whole day to see these attractions at leisure. You could take the Cable Car up to the Botanic Garden, have a look around, then board the Zealandia free shuttle that leaves from near the top of the cable car and botanic garden. After visiting Zealandia, you can take its shuttle down to the city center and walk a few blocks to to Te Papa.

KarenWoo is quite right, the drives will take much longer that Google says You'll want to get out to take photos, or use facilities, or have a closer look at, or pop into, roadside attractions, or the designated drive will just want to stop, step out to have a good look without having to concentrate on the road and driving at the same time.. Plus--and Karen can back me up here--the unexpected can happen. We can have unpredictable weather, even (though less likely in Jan. and Feb.) which can cause travel disruptions, road closures, diversions, etc. In summer, we can get ex-cyclones, but this mostly affects the North Island. Again, this is a rare occurence.The last bad summer cyclone was in Feb. 2023. Summer can be windy, causing Cook Strait to have huge swells. In Jan. 2025, some ferries were cancelled. Again, this is not common, but it can happen. This said, in fine weather, this is a gorgeous ferry journey.

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Old Feb 14th, 2025 | 06:58 PM
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Diamantina, you were supposed to help me narrow it down!!!!
I so wish I had another week or two (or three) to add to this trip and do all these places justice.
The only easy thing is the itinerary change: from Te Anau to Dunedin via the Catlins (maybe), then Oamaru-Aoraki Mt. Cook. The Nugget Point Lighthouse seems like a good compromise. Unfortunately, I don't think we have time for Stewart Island - unless we take a couple of days from somewhere else. I'll need to go make a list of all the drives, all the hikes we want to do, all the activities, boats, heli rides, wineries, etc. see what is a must do for us, and what to cut out. Thankfully, there is time for that.
I did not realize there are several kiwi species, I'll need to read on this. And thanks for the kiwi tour info.
Auckland area sounds wonderful, with lots of things to see and do. Again, what to cut to have another day or two there? As a first stop after the long flight is seems like a perfect time to get use to the new time zone.
Great info on wineries, pinot noir is probably our favorite wine these days, so thank you. And yes, the goal is to see it all in a non-rushed, relaxed way. 🤣
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What do you most want to see or do Rotorua? Maybe you can cut a day from there. I know you prefer longer stays, but maybe after you get a whiff of their sulphur-scented air, you won’t feel so bad about having to move on.

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Waiheke is not known for pinot noir, which as you’ll know needs warm days, but cool nights, which you'll get as you make your way south. Top areas for Pinot are Central Otago, Martinborough (about an hour's drive from Wellington), Marlborough, Waipara/North Canterbury, Nelson.

The drive from Te Anau to Nugget Point will take about three hours. But by getting out and taking a walk to the lighthouse, you'll also be taking a break, before driving the next 90-minute segment to Dunedin, follow "the Southern Scenic Route". If you leave Te Anau early, no later than 9 a.m., I don't think you'll feel hurried The drive from Dunedin to Oamaru takes about two hours, but there are places to stop! So it could take longer.

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Currently in New Zealand, and spent some time in Wellington. We loved both Zealandia and Te Papua, and I would not bother with the shuttle to maximize time. Uber was pretty cheap and much faster. We took the 10 am tour at Zealandia, saw a lot, had lunch in the cafe when done, and didn’t get back to central Wellington until about 1:30.

Not sure where you are staying near Abel Tasman. We stayed in Kaiteriteri and if weather good, it was very nice, although we need warmer weather than Kiwis do to spend beach time. Unless you are planning to go all the way out to the spit, or taking long hikes, two nights there is sufficient we thought. It is beautiful when the sun is shining which it was for us.

Really liked Dunedin and the Otago Peninsula, but that was a prior trip. Did a wildlife tour that was fantastic.

Drive times: sometimes we equal the map times and sometimes take about 10% or so longer PLUS stopping time. We did have a 40 minute delay yesterday for road works on the way through Murchison. So check road conditions.

Have a good trip.
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Old Feb 15th, 2025 | 08:13 AM
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Diamantina, not a bad idea to cut Rotorua down to 1 day. We've been to Yellowstone, so this will not be completely new. I think I'll add the day to Dunedin for some wildlife tour, tbd.
I like the new itinerary better: Te Anau to Nugget Point then Dunedin, 2 nights there, Oamaru for 1 night then Aoraki Mt. Cook for 3-4 nights. Of course, this will still probably change again as I find more things to do and places to stop

traveler318, great to hear Uber is a good option. I have nothing planned yet in terms of accommodations, but Kaiteriteri seems a good option recommended by a lot of people. We are not beach people, but we hike (not long hikes though) and do wildlife tours, so I'll consider shortening the time there too. We'll see. I'm so glad you're having good weather, it makes such a big difference! Do you remember who did you do the wildlife tour with in Dunedin/Otago peninsula? Enjoy the rest of your trip!
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xyz99, personally, I would not shorten your time at Abel Tasman NP. Three nights gives you 2 full days. I think it's important to have a buffer in case of rain. It would be a shame to be there and not be able to experience Abel Tasman NP if you are there for only one full day and it's raining. As you know from my TR, we did a 4-hour cruise only of Abel Tasman NP, but the cruise companies offer quite a few different cruise and hike options. You could easily spend 6 - 8 hours there doing a combination of hikes and sails. Also, there are several wonderful wineries in the region for tastings and lunches. Most likely you will arrive in Kaiteriteri (or wherever you have reservations) late in the day so you wouldn't be able to do much on arrival. There are many interesting stops you can make along the way after you arrive in Picton from Wellington. The Queen Charlotte Drive is beautiful but slow. We loved our green lipped mussels lunch in Havelock, and we also enjoyed visiting Nelson. It took us the whole day to drive from Kaiteriteri to Picton with all the stops we made.
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Kaiteriteri would be my first choice for access to Abel Tasman NP, too. The setting is very pretty and it’s a nice little village where you just have to walk down to the beach to catch a boat into the park. I agree, and don’t think 3 nts. will be too much. Only two full days of hiking — you wanted to see coastal views. You might be arriving later on that first day, especially if you stop along the way, say, to pop into a winery, or shop at a supermarket (though there is a small market in Kaiteriteri), or for lunch Havelock is the green mussel capital), so you won’t have much time for a hike that day. Also, as it’s high season you probably wouldn’t be able to check into your accommodation early. Yes, and as Karen says, more days will be allow for a day of less-than-optimum weather.

An alternative would be Marahau, where you could walk on part of the track that first day. Days are long in Jan-Feb., so you'd have time. I've never stayed in Marahau.

If you find you'd had enough of hiking, then you can consider just taking a cruise to Totaranui and back. If you do this, check the tide table. I took the cruise of one of my 4 days there and because it was high tide we were able too sail into Awaroa Inlet. It's a pretty inlet and this is where relatively recent crowdfunding resulted in the purchase of private land, that could be incorporated into the public areas of the park.

Or you can spend the entire day driving into nearby Golden Bay, which is a beautiful area with many short walks and coastal views (notbaly Wharariki Beach). This would be an all day excursion. Personally, I would choose to walk more of the track, but I'm just saying, you would have many options in this area.

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Old Feb 15th, 2025 | 05:45 PM
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KarenWoo and Diamantina: We will not have time for anything on the 1st day in Abel Tasman NP. That day will be busy with the ferry crossing, then the Queen Charlotte Drive with a stop in Havelock for green mussels and who knows how many other stops for just views and photos. Based on all you are suggesting in Abel Tasman, we could spend a lot more days there, so I see how just 2 (hopefully with nice weather) will only scratch the surface. A combination of hikes and a short cruise would be perfect!
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Old Feb 15th, 2025 | 08:19 PM
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When going for your wildlife outing on the Otago Peninsula, do include a visit with the hoihos as the penguins are endemic to New Zealand. We also saw albatross.
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When going for your wildlife outing on the Otago Peninsula, do include a visit with the hoihos as the penguins are endemic to New Zealand. We also saw albatross.
Oh, absolutely, that's on the list 😉 thank you!!
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Sorry, this posting might be preceeded by a duplicate that I had no chance to proofread!

Two full days for ATT would be good. If the weather's fine, you'll see why Abel Tasman Track is one NZ's 11 "Great Walks" (the 11th, the Hump Ridge Track" joined the Great Walks in 2024, and the 10th, Paparoa Track, in 2020). It's one of only two predominantly coastal Great Walks (the other being Stewart Island's Rakiura Track). Undoubtedly, ATtrack more popular, more accessible, and has sunnier and drier weather. At this moment (nearly noon on Tues., Feb. 18). it's raining heavily and humid there, according to NIWA, so, yes, it's good to have at least two full days there. The top of the SI has some of NZ's best weather, but I can't overstate how unpredictable and changeable NZ's weather can be. The first time I visited Abel Tasman NP, I kayaked in heavy rain and winds (the day had started out fine, however, it wasn't summer).

On my last visit, I bought a three-day explorer pass with Wilson's and cruised to a different drop-off point and walked a different segment each day. I found the estimated times listed for the walks to be over-estimates--each day, I took my time, yet finished much earlier. Nor did I get off to the earliest of starts. As you do a lot of hiking, you could cover more of the track in two days than I did in three, making the most out of your time there.

I'm still thinking about what you can trim from your trip to fit it all in!

About Dunedin wildlife..The rare and endangered Yellow Eyed penguins/"hoiho" are in sharp decline and getting harder to spot. To give you an idea, when I first came to Dunedin more than 14 years ago, it was easy to see hoiho on the Otago Peninsula's Sandfly Bay Beach (no sandflies here, just flying sand), but, last year, Sandfly Bay's last breeding-age female drowned in a fishing net (this news broke many hearts). The endangered NZ sea lion, the world's rarest sea lions, are fairly easy to see here and you can find them of local beaches and sometimes on, or crossing, city streets, especially during breeding season. Both of these species are found from about Oamaru, through Dunedin and the Catlins, on Stewarts Island(s), but mainly in NZ's subantarctic islands. Heritage Expeditions offers cruises to these islands.You might want to read about "Mum". Beaches are best visited at low tide. My favorite Otago Peninsula beach is Allans Beach; my husband prefers Sandfly Bay. Sea lions rest on the warm sand, fur seals on the rocks (mostly)..
More about the sea lion from NZ Geograohic magazine.

The Otago Peninsula's Taiaroa Head is home to the Royal Albatross Colony. You can pay admission to tour the Royal Albatross Centre, where you'd be taken to a hide, where you can view adult Northern Royal albatrosses and chicks on their nests (chicks hatch from January to mid February), but they also have a screen fixed on one of the nests for a closer look (meanwhile, you can check out the DOC live webcam). If you stand outside the centre, you can see the albatrosses flying overhead for free. There is a very short public track adjacent to the track, where you can see fur seals on the rocks below, and other seabirds. You can also spot fur seals by walking down to nearby Pilot's Beach. At night, you must pay admission to Pilot's Beach. When the last light is on the horizon, the Little Blue Penguins begin to swim ashore in "rafts".

You can also view albatrosses (Northern Royal and Buller's) and many other seabirds, as well as NZ fur seals (which can be found all around NZ's coasts) from the Monarch Cruise. Note: they don't chum the water to attract the birds, so what you see is just natural behavior. So it'll be different every time. The albatrosses are more active on windy days (they need the wind for lift-off)..You can also see Otago Shags on their unusual "pedestal "nests on the rock cliff face below Tairoa Head. The cruise is lovely on a clear, sunny day.

Not on the Otago Peninsula, is another special place for viewing birds:Orokonui Ecosanctuary. Its doors open at 10 a.m. and, if you want, you can visit it on your way from Dunedin to Oamaru. Like Zealandia, this is a mainland island sanctuary with a predator-proof fence. You can see more birds at Zealandia, but Orokonui has many lovely walking tracks. Its visitor center offers beautiful views on a clear, sunny day.

Dunedin Botanic Garden is also good for spotting common native birds, such as bellbird (korimako), tui, kereru, and fantail (piwakawaka).
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Old Feb 18th, 2025 | 01:32 PM
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Thank you so much for taking the time to write all this down, not only the info, but the links too. This is sooo helpful, I can't even begin to tell you. I must admit, it's overwhelming: NZ is big, not huge, but there is so much to see and do that is difficult to decide what to focus on. Every place looks beautiful and different than the rest, and I'm having a hard time choosing.
I'll keep 2 full days at Abel Tasman, wish we could spare more...but see above. I'm hoping for good weather
You're a brave soul, there will be no kayaking for us in bad weather. I'd be afraid to take my camera on a kayak in good weather, I'm not sure it would be wise anyway, but in bad weather, no way!

LOL, "I'm still thinking about what you can trim from your trip to fit it all in!" .... and then you list all these amazing wildlife experiences that you know I will have to stop for. It seems we'll need a couple of days in Dunedin too, that Monarch web site has so many interesting cruises and drives!!! Plus, the botanical garden, of course.
We are not beach people...the 2 beaches that you list as favorites are for beach/beach or wildlife?
We'll be there mid Feb, so I guess we're still going to have a chance to see the albatross chicks, right? And seeing the colony from both land and sea would not be redundant, I'm thinking...


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We saw the albatrosses from both land and sea; from sea we were able to enjoy some of the other wildlife such as seals.
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