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Old Nov 21st, 2019 | 12:19 PM
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London and Paris over Thanksgiving Break

My husband and I along with our two daughters (17 and 12) are going to London and Paris over Thanksgiving. I've done research and have planned out the main sites we'd like to see. My question is about the seasonal events happening in these cities. A friend recommended the Winter Wonderland in Hyde Park, so we are planning on attending. I'd appreciate any thoughts on Christmas markets/special events/light and window displays, etc. you would recommend attending/avoiding in London/Paris.

I would also appreciate recommendations on Indian and Italian restaurants in the two cities. Price range is not important, just looking for restaurants that may stick out in your memory. Thank you!
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Old Nov 21st, 2019 | 01:32 PM
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For restaurants, see my trip reports: AJPeabody’s London Restaurant List and The Peabody Papers 2019, Paris and Brittany, Unmapped
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Old Nov 21st, 2019 | 01:49 PM
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I’d frankly skip hyde park. although the kids might enjoy it. Not one of my favorites. If I remember correctly, natural history has an ice rink—definitely worth it. In terms of shopping, the V&A, And Liberty both have glorious holiday shopping. You should go anyway to both with daughters!

tayyabs for Indian. I THINK it might be byob if that matters to you (I could not figure that out)

i HIGHLY recommend a holiday afternoon tea somewhere. The best I’ve had is Browns Hotel, but with teens I might go for mad hatter at Sanderson or the science tea at the ampersand.

https://ampersandhotel.com/eat-drink...afternoon-tea/


(Cannot vouch for mad hatter, but I ❤️ the science tea. )

paris windows and galeries Lafayette- fabulous Christmas decorations. Also a lot of fun is Musée Fontaine (old carnival stuff) which, I believe, has an open house near the holidays.

so many great options for museums in both cities. V&A is my favorite in London. Love the D’orsay in Paris. The Metiers is also fantastic, if only for the steampunk Metro station, though the museum is also very good. Some really fantastic toy stores and clothing boutiques in Paris as well.

Also not to be missed in London are the pantomimes. Fun for all ages.

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Isn't that actually Musee Foraine?
And Tayyabs has been collecting a lot of less than stellar reviews lately.
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Hmm. I actually thought I wrote Forains not Fontaine. Sorry!

My experience with Tayyabs is not recent. But I think that’s a given for most food recs in this board—always good to check recent reviews.
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In London one of my favorite upscale Indian restaurants is Cafe Namaste near the Tower of London. It has been awhile since I have eaten there but it was yummy and I still have his cookbook which is really nice as well

https://www.cafespice.co.uk/

Oddly enough in Paris one of my favorite restaurants is Indian as well called Desi Road-very light inventive takes on modern Indian cuisine-it is near the Pont Neuf on Rue Dauphine in the 6th

Desi Road

In Paris my favorite "pizza street" is Rue des Canettes with both Positano and Chez Bartolo there. I find them easier to get into than the much more "hip" mamma group restaurants-but they are good too!

https://www.bigmammagroup.com/
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Old Nov 21st, 2019 | 09:05 PM
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My husband and I along with our two daughters (17 and 12) are going to London and Paris over Thanksgiving. I've done research and have planned out the main sites we'd like to see. My question is about the seasonal events happening in these cities. A friend recommended the Winter Wonderland in Hyde Park, so we are planning on attending. I'd appreciate any thoughts on Christmas markets/special events/light and window displays, etc. you would recommend attending/avoiding in London/Paris.

I would also appreciate recommendations on Indian and Italian restaurants in the two cities. Price range is not important, just looking for restaurants that may stick out in your memory. Thank you!
Give Winter Wonderland a miss. If you want a skating in a beautiful decor, try Somerset House.
For Indian restaurants in Paris go to Rue du Faubourg St Denis, near Gare du Nord. The entire area is little India, and restaurants congregate there. They're all pretty good (the cuisine is that of Chennai)

Indian food in London: for me, Shoreditch is still good for this, and the area around Brick Lane is the focus, although it's fading a bit in this respect. There are also restaurants like Dishoom, with a "modern" take on Indian cuisine. In London, expect more Punjabi style cooking.

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Not sure how long you are in London for i.e. if you have time for a short trip outside of central London, Hampton Court Palace ice rink opens today. Christmas at Kew Gardens is also open from today but the tickets are mostly sold out.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2019 | 02:48 AM
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Ice skating in Paris at the rink outside the Hôtel de Ville.

<<For Indian restaurants in Paris go to Rue du Faubourg St Denis, near Gare du Nord. The entire area is little India, and restaurants congregate there. They're all pretty good (the cuisine is that of Chennai)>>

Absolutely - the whole area is packed with great Indian food!
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Old Nov 22nd, 2019 | 03:26 AM
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I love Winter Wonderland. So cheesy and fun! Free music, lots of garish neon, grab a table in the "Bavarian Christmas market" to watch a band play hits from 80s while the teens run around the games and rides. I would just suggest to go some way that does not involve Green Park station as that station is complete and utter hell when Winter Wonderland is going on.

Free Tours by Foot runs a Christmas lights tour. The guide that does it (unless there is more than one guide) is Canis, and he is a very good guide. It would be a good way to see a lot of the lights in a short time period.
https://freetoursbyfoot.com/london-c...s-lights-tour/
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Old Nov 22nd, 2019 | 03:27 AM
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It looks as though the skating rink at the Hotel de Ville may not be available this year, and most of the others will be later in December. But there will be one on the Galeries Lafayette roof terrace:

https://www.sortiraparis.com/actuali...ries-lafayette
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Old Nov 22nd, 2019 | 06:31 AM
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London lights:
Regent and Jermyn Street angels are always impressive
Bond Street and shops nicely decorated...especially Ralph Lauren, Cartier and Vuitton. Just off Bond, Saville Row has a light display for the first year ever
Elizabeth Street in Belgravia...plus pretty shops
Oxford Street - brand new lights this year...looks interesting, will check out in December when I’m in town
Covent Garden...great tree and fun place to be around Christmas
Slingsby Place - just off Long Acre near Covent Garden towards Leicester Square...very nice lights, and your daughters will probably enjoy the stores around there, like “& other stories”
Sloane Square and up Sloane Street
These are the big ones, but there are lights all over and beautiful trees all over the place too...I always like the one outside the Connaught Hotel on Mount Street
Annabel's nightclub in Berkeley Square is always an impressively lite facade too

Christmas Trees and decor:
Check out the tree inside Liberty department store
Covent Garden and Connaught Hotel Mount Street
V&A usually does an interesting tree inside the lobby
Lower Regent Street tree outside the Sofitel Hotel by the Crimean War Memorial
Hotel lobbies like Claridges and the Berkeley. Very seasonal!
Fortnum and Mason for great windows and the circular staircase is usually impressive too
The Arcades: Burlington, Piccadilly and Royal...my favourite is the Royal Arcade

Skating Rinks:
Natural History Museum...great for insta pics too!
Somerset House...needs booking for time slot...but great to just walk around

Italian restaurants:
Camillo Benso in Mayfair...relatively well priced
Oliveto and other “olivo” restaurants in and around Belgravia
Caldesi on Marylebone Lane...just off a nice shopping street...with Christmas lights too!

Indian restaurants:
Jamavar on Mount Street...at the pricey end, but I had a fantastic tasting menu, with wine pairing...not easy to do with Indian food

Have a great time in London...I leave Dec 3rd for a week and will probably do much of what is listed above
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Old Nov 22nd, 2019 | 06:48 AM
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The lights on the Champs Elysees are always spectacular. I'm sorry to hear they're not doing the skating rink at the Hotel de Ville- there was usually a snow slide set up there, too. I'm not sure why you'd want to eat Italian food in France. The girls should have moules frites at Chez Leon, and fondue in the Marais.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2019 | 10:12 AM
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Thank you very much for all the great feedback. One follow-up question, if not the Winter Wonderland Christmas market in Hyde Park, is there another market you would recommend?
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Old Nov 22nd, 2019 | 11:03 AM
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There’s a good market on the south bank just east of the London Eye. And a brand new market this year in Trafalgar Square.
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Just curious, what kind of London items can you buy at the London Christmas markets. I will have one evening to visit some nearby market, thus just thinking what can I buy for small gifts for grand kids.
Thanks for your help. Really enjoying reading about all the fun seasonal activities and the joy of the season.
Have a great weekend.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2019 | 03:01 PM
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Just curious, what kind of London items can you buy at the London Christmas markets. I will have one evening to visit some nearby market, thus just thinking what can I buy for small gifts for grand kids.
Thanks for your help. Really enjoying reading about all the fun seasonal activities and the joy of the season.
Have a great weekend.
For the best London related gifts, I suggest that you stop in the Transport Museum shop in Covent Garden. The shop is right at the front and you don't need admission to the museum to shop there. All kinds of unique and high quality London gifts for all ages and budgets.

Preview: https://www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/v
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Old Nov 22nd, 2019 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ileen
Just curious, what kind of London items can you buy at the London Christmas markets. I will have one evening to visit some nearby market, thus just thinking what can I buy for small gifts for grand kids.
Thanks for your help. Really enjoying reading about all the fun seasonal activities and the joy of the season.
Have a great weekend.
I agree about transport museum. Also V&A shop, which is my favorite, and Harrod, and Liberty.

the disappointing thing about the Brit markets is that it’s either craft fair-ish stuff or imported Germany stuff. Not good shopping markets.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2019 | 05:53 PM
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The markets mostly masquerade as German/Bavarian Christmas markets which explains what sorts of stuff they sell. You'll see fake snow, glühwein, pretzels, etc. As Marvelousemouse says, to get London-esque souvenirs you'll want to go to the gift shops at all the the various museums, the Tower, Covent Garden, the Royal Opera House, Westminster Abbey, Hampton Court, Windsor, etc etc.
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Old Nov 22nd, 2019 | 07:33 PM
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Walkingaround, Marvelousmouse and Janisj, thanks for your input and advice. Glad I asked this question, as I am not interested in German or other European or maybe Made in China stuff. I am particularly interested in London items, thus makes sense to shop at the Museum stores or the other places all of you have mentioned.
Your help is so appreciated. I feel better when I ask the experts and become somewhat knowledgeable!
Well, have a great weekend, rest, relax and get ready for Thanksgiving in the US and also Christmas everywhere.
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