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If there are 2 double beds in the room it may be a room for 4 people. You should simply ask the hotel how much for 3 people. It may be less money since a triple room is less than a quad.
The only way you'll get this question answered correctly is to ask the hotel for prices for double and triple rooms. I stayed in a large hotel in Rome one time and after the first day the desk clerk never asked for my room number when I picked up the key. He simply handed me the correct key as I walked up to the desk. I think identifying who is staying in a hotel is part of the requirements for front desk staff. |
Maybe jsims should rethink this trip; seems like maybe there is a budgeting problem. I would not be at ease with myself, trying to deceive vendors regardless of what the product happents to be.
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I don't think money is an issue if jsims is staying at Hiltons. You tell the hotel how many are staying because as many have said "...its the right thing to do." even with that sentiment I can't help but wonder why jsims bothers traveling to a place like Paris when he/she seems to want to make the experience as "American" as possible. I went back and read the controversial post regarding waiters; never, anywhere in Europe have I received automatic refills of anything except occasionally coffee at breakfast at a hotel, (not cafe or restaurant). Also there are continued references to how things are in the U.S. NEWSFLASH: YOU'RE NOT IN THE U.S! Go to Las Vegas if you want an approximation of the European experience instead of an authentic one. I can only speak for myself but this thinking is what perpetuates the stereotype of the "Ugly American". The responses you're receiving come from travelers who do so to immerse ourselves in the culture and customs of another place and we revel in the opportunity to do so!
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jsims -
Just so you're aware most chain hotels in europe - Hilton, Sheraton etc - have ONE double bed in the regular rooms. (And often very little floor space around it - even if someone doesn't mind sleeping on the floor.) Or - they may have 2 twin (as in single) beds. If you want a room with TWO double beds you usually have to specify that up front and it will cost more than a regular room. They may call it deluxe or double double or something. And this will probably cost more than getting a tripe room in a local hotel. You're assuming that chain hotels will have the same kinds/size rooms they do in the US - they very rarely do. And - they cost much more than in the US. Separetely, registration/passport sign in can actually be a legal issue - if the hotel decides to get nasty about it. |
Six of us (my family) stayed in the Holiday Inn Kensington (not the former Forum) a year ago, in two rooms. When my DH and I travel we stay in boutique (and less expensive) hotels, but because there were six of us we found the most economical way was to book into the HI.
It was a great idea because they had two queen beds in each room--just like in the US. So for us, the US chain appeared to be exactly like the hotels IN the US. |
But MelJ, isn't that the exception, rather than the common rule?
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I'm sure for 250 euro you can find triple rooms.
No way would I be paying that kind of money (not cheap), staying places like the Sheraton, AND trying to sneak someone into the hotel room every night. What a needless hassle! |
I don't know, Tuscan, as this was the only time I've stayed in a chain hotel in Europe. Oh, wait, we stayed in a Jury's in London once.
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It just seems weird to me to be sneaking around, three adults who can afford hotels in that price range.
I guess I'd be more sympathetic if these were student backpackers or the like. Why responsible adults want to do this is beyond me. |
jsims
I regularly book rooms for 3 adults in both the USA and here in Europe. It is easier to do this in the USA (although we never book rooms with 2 x queen beds, because we like a bed each!) but, as others have pointed out, 2 x queen beds in rooms (even the big chains) is rare in Europe. Just book a triple and enjoy the difference! You will find comfortable accommodation for the money you are willing to pay - a small apartment or junior suite. I can't see your problem, apart from that you want it to be 'like America'. It's not! (But I often have had to pay extra for a third person in a room in the USA too!) |
Perhaps a solar flare has warped <jsims> moral compass so that it no longer points to "ethical".
Or perhaps <jsims> ins merely exemplary of an amoral trait I see all too often nowadays, namely, "I can get away with that". Whether it's here, or rolling thru a stop sign to squeeze into a 3-car length gap in the 30mph traffic, or filling one's pockets and bags with material from the breakfast table, it's "I can get away with that". Preaching a sermon to the deaf just doesn't work. |
It's probably not necessary to mention this but, just in case my earlier post about the Holiday Inn London isn't clear, we booked as three to a room and took two rooms (6 people). I would never do what jsims is suggesting and try to sneak extra people in.
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Jsims, this has turned into a lively moral debate! Is it wrong to steal? In my culture it is. Will you get caught? Maybe, maybe not. How will you feel either way? I have no idea. You might find it helpful to read some research that has been conducted on moral development and then you can make up your own mind. I would suggest sources such as Kohlberg, 1969; Arbuthnot et al., 1987; Piaget. If you don't have access to an academic library you will be able to find heaps of articles about this research on the internet - use search words such as social - moral - development - Heinz dilemma - Kohlberg - Arbuthnot - Piaget, etc.
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jsims, make sure your hotel has triple rooms or get two rooms and pay for it, otherwise...you can find yourselves sleeping on a beautiful parisian park...but as beautiful as they are, I don't see them as a good place to sleep.
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Not sure if this has been mentioned yet -..... but many hotels offer "family" rooms. We booked several in Austria and Germany. Some were chain hotels, some were little boutique private Inns.
It is much more economical to do this over booking 2 rooms! It is usually 2 rooms with 2 beds each and a shared bath. It is a great option!! Not sure if these are available in Paris - but it is worth a try! |
I can also recommend the Hotel de la Bourdonnais, in the 7th arrondissement in Paris. They have quad rooms, and probably triples, too. Our quad room had a full-on view of the Eiffel Tower, and we paid $225/night in May 2005.
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This thread needs to be retitled <b>Defrauding a Paris Innkeeper</b>. It's just wrong. Don't consider it.
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jsims seems to have decided they prefer to stay in a chain hotel like Hilton or Sheraton (do these exist in Paris?), but these places charge too much for the 3rd person in a room, so they are justified in paying for 2 and sneaking in the third. Then rationalizes by saying they won't ask for a towel for the third person, so it doesn't cost any more for the hotel. If it's OK for college students on spring break in Cancun, it must be OK for 3 (apparently affluent) adults who can afford to go to Paris---but don't agree with the prices charged by hotels.
As I said above----people with this kind of attitude should just stay home. |
I'm amazed by the snooty attitudes of some of the posters. Let me clarify:
1) No small innkeepers will be hurt 2) I'm talking about billion dollar corporations (Hilton, Marriott) who set their own rules. 3) We will not need anything extra from the staff or the hotels in the way of towels or anything else. 4) Breakfast, lunch, dinner will be purchased and paid for 3 adults. 4) We need 2 beds nothing extra. The hotel will not be inconvenienced in any way, shape or form. 5) It's stupid to pay extra 50 euros a night for basically nothing extra. It is stupid, people. These hotels are ripping people off in the first place. It's as stupid as paying to check in the 1st bag at AA or United or Delta. Just because these airlines are poorly managed or they want to make a few extra bucks off of me is not my fault and I will not make it into my problem. Same goes for the hotel. I pay 200-250 euros for one room and two beds. I don't need to be paying anything extra to make the owners in NY or Chicago a little bit richer. |
It is neither snooty nor stupid.
But it is honest. |
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