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chartley Aug 22nd, 2008 11:10 AM

I've never had a problem with surly Paris waiters, but then I always make a point of taking along a present of some cake mix.

kerouac Aug 22nd, 2008 11:16 AM

"vacate and pay a fine" -- pull the other one, StCirq - it might come off in your hand.

Can you direct me to a list of hotel fines applied in Paris?

LSky Aug 22nd, 2008 11:56 AM

Good idea chartley, because they can be really unpleasant if you try to fob off marshmallows on them.

Pvoyageuse Aug 22nd, 2008 11:59 AM

Kerouac :

Dishonest behavior in hotels and restaurants is called "délit de grivèlerie" and is punishable according to article 313-5 of the French Code Pénal.

longboatkey Aug 22nd, 2008 12:16 PM

Basta!!!! this horse has been run into the ground!!

longboatkey Aug 22nd, 2008 12:18 PM

Pvoy...Thank you...Your research should end this eternal babel!!!I am as guilty as anyone of keeping the coals glowing.

thursdaysd Aug 22nd, 2008 02:09 PM

Thanks pvoy - google turned up this with the help of our info:

ARTICLE 313-5

...

Swindling is when a person, knowing himself to be wholly unable to meet payment or being determined not to pay:

1° orders food or drink in premises where food or drink are sold;

2° books and effectively occupies one or more bedrooms in an establishment letting rooms, where the occupation does not exceed ten days;

.....

Swindling is punished by six months' imprisonment and a fine of € 7,500.

Maybe jsims can wind up with some free lodging courtesy of the French government.

LSky Aug 22nd, 2008 09:11 PM

"Maybe jsims can wind up with some free lodging courtesy of the French government."

Aw, be careful what you ask for, eh?
Now, I really can't wait for the trip report,
"Parisian jails are just awful. Had to sleep 3 to a bunk. We drew straws to see who would pick up the soap ..."

kerouac Aug 23rd, 2008 10:58 AM

And you think that hotels collect fines? Do you have any idea how long it would take to get to court?


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