The running of the bulls, day 3
 

toros de Victoriano del Río - 09 jul 2015

http://www.rtve.es/alacarta/videos/s...aster/3203555/

Didn't watch it, but found some images that give me great pleasure:

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...1trCIr7-A_ypKQ

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...Q1bCPDWZKcF3Ow

One of my favorites:
https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...lToh4MoK6MYvMq

Another "like"

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...roIoz1cTDtiL-Q

I wish they would all end like that:

https://dionneshannette.files.wordpr...r-the-bull.jpg

Mark

Tradition which is famous thanks to Ernest Hemingway, it´s said more than 60% of people who run the San Fermin are foreigners (Americans) (24%),; -(Australians o kiwis) (11%). Only 6% from Pamplona.

cdnyul --

"Didn't watch it, but found some images that give me great pleasure"

You are one sick person.

> it´s said more than 60% of people who run the San Fermin are foreigners (Americans) (24%),; -(Australians o kiwis) (11%). Only 6% from Pamplona.<

Where did you get those stats? 6% from Pamplona?

The vast majoriy of "runners" are from Navara, Basque country, Aragon, Madrid Catalunya and a few Brits and a hand full of Scotts.

There are a few thousand from Australia and New Zeland, but very free actually run the encierro. Most are too drunk to wake up early enough, and would be removed from the route by the Police if they did show up.

Americns runners make up about 6% to 8% of those who actually run on most days.

Every one else stands on the side, blocking the runners and causing pile ups.

Robert, surely you don't run anymore, right ? I know there are some who do forever, like Matt Carney, but please, not you. We need you here !

La procedencia de los conteos de personas proceden de este sistema, según nos indica el Ayuntamiento de Pamplona: "Las cifras de corredores se corresponden con los recuentos realizados sobre la base de las fotografías obtenidas a partir de las imágenes proporcionadas por la Policía Municipal, procedentes de cámaras situadas a lo largo del recorrido, minutos antes del cohete que anuncia el inicio del encierro."
El 56% de los corredores de los encierros de estos Sanfermines era extranjero:

-Estadounidenses (24%),
-Australianos o neozelandeses (11%)
-Británicos (4%),
-Franceses (2,5%)
-Sudamericanos (2,5%)

Según las encuestas realizadas por el Ayuntamiento 739 corredores (8% del total) del encierro eran de Pamplona, un 6% del resto de localidades de Navarra y un 30% españoles

http://www.sanfermin.com/index.php/e...o-de-sanfermin

Go Bulls - 4 gorings today - those who abuse animals deserve what they get! Culling the herd IMO. and one bull refused to run, returning to the pen - first time in a long time - bulls getting smarter than the runner? But it all ends up as hamburger in the end.

"Go Bulls - 4 gorings today - those who abuse animals deserve what they get!"

Another sicko.

Another sicko.> Along with those who needlessly torment and abuse animals - they are your clarions of nice healthy folk? Catalonia outlawed bullfighting and soon all of Spain will as well.

Do you enjoy seeing animals abused - get your fun out of that - now that's sicko IMO.

"Do you enjoy seeing animals abused"

No I do not. But I certainly don't take joy in seeing humans gored. I accept it as part of the ritual, but I do not enjoy it.

Well I don't either really - I wish no one would be foolish enough to let themselves be gored - so I will temper my remarks but in a way the more gored the less this will continue is my rational.

And I guess traditions have a role - women were not allowed to run with the bulls until recently - the first ones being snatched off the gauntlet by macho men - again I can appreciate the tradition but I abhor needless animal abuse - one reason I am a vegetarian, besides health reasons. I will remark no more here on this - I can see both sides but some day it will all be a in the history books I hope. Meanwhile let the tradition continue and the local people decide what is right and wrong for them - again I hope they sooner or later become compassionate for animal abuse but we have states where dog fighting is legal - Lousiana I believe and many where they are tolerated so who is to speak.

Cheers.

Cheers.

So you let others do your killing where you do not see it.

Here are just a few products you will have to stop using if you are ethical as you claim that come from cows and bulls:


Leathe.

Gel capsules often are made from bovine gelatin.

Bars of soap probably come from processed cow tallow fat. Asphalt roads may contain bovine fatty acids.

Cars and trucks may ply those roads on rubber tires made
with cow oils.

The explosive nitroglycerine is manufactured from glycerine, which is extracted from cow fat.

Cattle byproducts go into everything from photographic film to matchstick heads.
Consider:

Glue made from cow's blood is widely used to make plywood.

The cow's nasal septum is processed into chondroitin sulfate, an alternative medical treatment for arthritis.

Extracted protein from horns and hooves goes into foam for fire extinguishers.

The root gland of the tongue yields pregastric lipase, which is used in cheese production as a curdling agent.

Tissue from the small intestines becomes catgut for racket strings or surgical sutures.

Epinephrine from the adrenal gland can treat hay fever, asthma or other allergies, or stimulate the heart in the event of cardiac arrest.

Catalase, a liver enzyme, goes into contact lens care products.
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Have a pleasant dinner.

I don't always agree with PalenQ, but I'm with him 100% here.

No one forces the fools to run. No one gives the bulls a choice.

BTW, this 'tradition' has just been removed from the cultural patrimonium.

My grandparents were farmers and, as a child, I have seen chickens beheaded and pigs slaughtered. On occasion, my favourite rabbit would be our dinner.

What I have not seen is the animals that we ate being gratuitously abused.

Death was not the highlight of their life.


Mark

There is one apocryphal tale the The Encierro was first run by butchers, as an attempt to give the bulls a chance to seek their revenge.

Go Bulls! (Chicago!)

PalenQ might be interested to know that bull running (correbous) still thrives in Catalonia. Bullfighting was banned not out of compassion for the animals but for political reasons i.e. the classic 'corrida' involving the torero in his 'suit of lights' is perceived by catalan separatists as a foreign imposition. Go to catalan villages or towns in the summer months and you'll find toros embolados (bulls with their horns tipped with rags dipped in tar and set on fire), ensogados (bulls trussed with rope and pulled around the village square) etc. A grotesque affair. Andalucia is bullfighting territory para excellence. Try going into a tasca in Carmona (Sevilla) and telling them that bullfighting's days are numbered. They'll either laugh in your face or run you out of town. It ain't that easy or that cut and dried.

Bravo and Ole, Mac !!