Paris Nord to St Paul Marais translation please
Sep 18th, 2005, 03:12 PM
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Paris Nord to St Paul Marais translation please
We will arrive from Brussels and staying at Hotel Sevigne in the Marais.
I have put the details into the ratp route map and have the info but as this is the first time for us in France I havent yet got my head around their train systems and the lingo.
Ive cut and pasted the RATP instructions but would like to know if it means I just change platforms - or go up to the street or down to the metro for both............is the direction mean the exit end of the Gare du Nord platformm... geez, basically need translation please hee hee - Id rather ask you guys then be wandering around the platform exhausted and with luggage trying to learn the system 2 minutes into arrival (Ill leave that for day 2 hee hee)
Thanks for any help you can give once again - here it is:
Go to : Station RER Gare du Nord
Direction: Villeneuve-Saint-Georges
from: Gare du Nord
to : Chatelet-Les Halles
Go to : Chatelet
Direction: Chateau de Vincennes
from: Chatelet
To : Saint-Paul (Le Marais)
Go to : Saint-Paul (Le Marais) - Metro
I have put the details into the ratp route map and have the info but as this is the first time for us in France I havent yet got my head around their train systems and the lingo.
Ive cut and pasted the RATP instructions but would like to know if it means I just change platforms - or go up to the street or down to the metro for both............is the direction mean the exit end of the Gare du Nord platformm... geez, basically need translation please hee hee - Id rather ask you guys then be wandering around the platform exhausted and with luggage trying to learn the system 2 minutes into arrival (Ill leave that for day 2 hee hee)
Thanks for any help you can give once again - here it is:
Go to : Station RER Gare du Nord
Direction: Villeneuve-Saint-Georges
from: Gare du Nord
to : Chatelet-Les Halles
Go to : Chatelet
Direction: Chateau de Vincennes
from: Chatelet
To : Saint-Paul (Le Marais)
Go to : Saint-Paul (Le Marais) - Metro
Sep 18th, 2005, 03:33 PM
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To simplify: take any RER train going south from the Gare du Nord to the Chatelet station. Transfer to the métro going toward Vincennes. Get off at St. Paul. Your RER ticket is valid on the métro and vice versa within the actual boundaries of Paris.
But from the Gare du Nord you might be able to find a métro which connects to Vincennes-Etoile line without going through the Chatelet maze, which is to be avoided if possible.
But from the Gare du Nord you might be able to find a métro which connects to Vincennes-Etoile line without going through the Chatelet maze, which is to be avoided if possible.
Sep 18th, 2005, 04:14 PM
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To avoid the dread Chatelet station you could take from GdN the Metro line 5 (direction Place d'Italie) and transfer at Bastille to Metro line 1 (direction La Defense) and travel one stop to St. Paul, which is quite close to rue Mahler. If you are in the mood for a stroll of about 5 blocks (and lacking burdensome luggage) you could even walk from the Bastille station - just head up rue St Antoine and rue Mahler will be on your right just about where rue de Rivolil merges into rue St Antoine.
Sep 19th, 2005, 01:24 AM
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RER would obviously be quicker to Chatelet les Halles than line 4, with which you would also have to change there.
Changing involves a fair hike within the station, whether you do it at Chatelet or Bastille. At Chatelet you at least get a moving pavement for the longest bit, but it is a bit of a maze, since it connects two different stations and several different lines. At Bastille you will have a corridor of about a hundred yards and several staircases (line 1 is elevated at that point, though it's quite pleasant to get to a platform above ground with a bit of a view of some boats).
The Sévigné is the best part of half a mile from Bastille - if you do want to walk, take the exit for the Rue St Antoine/ Boulevard Beaumarchais.
Changing involves a fair hike within the station, whether you do it at Chatelet or Bastille. At Chatelet you at least get a moving pavement for the longest bit, but it is a bit of a maze, since it connects two different stations and several different lines. At Bastille you will have a corridor of about a hundred yards and several staircases (line 1 is elevated at that point, though it's quite pleasant to get to a platform above ground with a bit of a view of some boats).
The Sévigné is the best part of half a mile from Bastille - if you do want to walk, take the exit for the Rue St Antoine/ Boulevard Beaumarchais.
Sep 19th, 2005, 02:38 AM
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Everyone is describing a very complicated route to your hotel. Stairs and long correspondances in various stations are hard with luggage--and if you have never been to Paris, CONFUSING. Walk off the platform, out the front door of the Gare and take a taxi to your hotel. It might be 15€ including tip, surcharge for pickup at a gare, and luggage.
Sep 19th, 2005, 02:50 AM
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As much as I love riding the rails I have to totally agree with Gretchen on this. The best way to avoid that which YOU have described as the worst: wandering around the platform with luggage is to take a taxi.
There is nothing wrong with doing yourself a favor for a change.
There is nothing wrong with doing yourself a favor for a change.
Sep 19th, 2005, 06:40 AM
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How do to it without climbing stairs:
If you don't have a lot of luggage and don't arrive during rush hour, you can get on the #65 bus (Direction Gare de Lyon) outside the northeast corner of GdN and ride it to Pasteur-Wagner. Wait at the same stop for the next #69, and ride it to Birague (at the foot of Rue de Sévigné
. Your hotel is around the corner and 30 yards up the street.
On the buses, the next stop is always displayed on a readout at the front of the coach. When you see your stop's name, press the nearest red button to request a stop.
Both bus legs are covered by any RATP transport pass.
If you don't have a lot of luggage and don't arrive during rush hour, you can get on the #65 bus (Direction Gare de Lyon) outside the northeast corner of GdN and ride it to Pasteur-Wagner. Wait at the same stop for the next #69, and ride it to Birague (at the foot of Rue de Sévigné
. Your hotel is around the corner and 30 yards up the street.On the buses, the next stop is always displayed on a readout at the front of the coach. When you see your stop's name, press the nearest red button to request a stop.
Both bus legs are covered by any RATP transport pass.
Sep 19th, 2005, 06:46 AM
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That's wrong. You should ride the #69 to the Saint-Paul stop. A highly detailed map of the Saint-Paul neighborhood can be downloaded from
<b>http://www.ratp.info/orienter/plan_t...hp?partenaire=
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<b>http://www.ratp.info/orienter/plan_t...hp?partenaire=
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Sep 19th, 2005, 07:19 AM
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I see no plans for and "RATP pass". They will have to buy the ticket on the bus? And finding bus stops going the correct direction is not always the easiest thing, particularly never having ridden the bus/seen the city.
Sep 19th, 2005, 08:00 AM
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"Direction" refers to the last stop on any métro line. Knowing that is absolutely key to working the Paris métro system. Whenever you travel on the métro you will be looking for "Direction" signs, i.e., signs that point you to the last stop on a particular line.
But really, do yourself and your traveling companions a favor and don't start this trip out with a nightmare in Chatelet. On my first trip to Paris I was lost underground there for literally an hour. I still avoid it like the plague. Follow Gretchen's advice and take a taxi.
But really, do yourself and your traveling companions a favor and don't start this trip out with a nightmare in Chatelet. On my first trip to Paris I was lost underground there for literally an hour. I still avoid it like the plague. Follow Gretchen's advice and take a taxi.
Sep 19th, 2005, 08:12 AM
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By the way, the map of Gare du Nord is also here:
<b>http://www.ratp.info/orienter/plan_telech_quartiers.php
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Notice the green "65" bus stop signs to the right of the tracks behind the building. The one you want says "Gare de Lyon" (on the west side of the street).
<b>http://www.ratp.info/orienter/plan_telech_quartiers.php
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Notice the green "65" bus stop signs to the right of the tracks behind the building. The one you want says "Gare de Lyon" (on the west side of the street).
Sep 19th, 2005, 07:55 PM
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Thanks everyone, I appreciate the time spent on answering and the explanations... which exhausted me just reading them, so appreciated you writing them!!
So decision??? - taxi! - I seem to get on a role when planning and always forget to sometimes take the easy option. Thankyou!
(4 years ago we arrived in Amsterdam after a 21 hour flight from Oz and caught the train into Amsterdam...easy, then was dumb enough to jump a tram following my researched info to get to our hotel.... 1 hour later and having jumped on and off the tram going backwards and forwards a few time - exhausted we realised we could have nearly walked to the hotel from the the station!@
AND HERE i AM NEARLY PLAYING THAT GAME AGAIN! - TAXI TAXI TAXI/.. Im obviously not a quick study (I think its the automatic miser reaction coming out in me hee hee)
thanks again all -
The metro can wait for day 2!
So decision??? - taxi! - I seem to get on a role when planning and always forget to sometimes take the easy option. Thankyou!
(4 years ago we arrived in Amsterdam after a 21 hour flight from Oz and caught the train into Amsterdam...easy, then was dumb enough to jump a tram following my researched info to get to our hotel.... 1 hour later and having jumped on and off the tram going backwards and forwards a few time - exhausted we realised we could have nearly walked to the hotel from the the station!@
AND HERE i AM NEARLY PLAYING THAT GAME AGAIN! - TAXI TAXI TAXI/.. Im obviously not a quick study (I think its the automatic miser reaction coming out in me hee hee)
thanks again all -
The metro can wait for day 2!
Sep 19th, 2005, 08:04 PM
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funny cosmos. I am in Marais in November and just read your responses to get an idea, YIKES!!! Simple train trip so much detail.
funny thinking of going to an fro on that tram in Amsterdam. Have a great trip let us know how it works out.
funny thinking of going to an fro on that tram in Amsterdam. Have a great trip let us know how it works out.
Sep 19th, 2005, 08:20 PM
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Thanks Sarah, while I think of it - if your going to Anne Franks house - go early or late as the line can go for miles! and then when your inside everyone is in your face and talking loudly so no atmosphere at all. (a real disappointment)
Amazing isnt it - weather and crowds have such an impact on "a moment" during travels
You have fun too!
Amazing isnt it - weather and crowds have such an impact on "a moment" during travels
You have fun too!
Sep 21st, 2005, 02:22 AM
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Sorry Sarah! - living on fodors too much... someone on the previous post I was reading prior to this was going to Amsterdam! duh.... thanks for the reply and Ill post when we get back. (we go to Greece prior to hitting Paris so although we leave in 9 days - yikes! - we dont arrive in Paris until the 16th Oct and back in Australia on the 11th November. Ill try and post asap on our return - are you in Marais early or late November?
