Inter-rail trip summer 2012
Feb 23rd, 2013, 01:17 PM
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Inter-rail trip summer 2012
Hi guys -
Me and a friend (20 and 18) are planning our first inter-rail trip, 22 days, I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on our itinerary. It could perhaps do with streamlining a bit and we are both conscious we are visiting more expensive countries on a low budget. I don't know if we are spending too much travelling and not enough time at the stops.
Fri 12 July - London to Bruges via Eurostar (planning to buy tickets as soon as possible to cut down on cost but if anyone has any cheaper solutions. I possibly wrongly assumed not needed to be included in inter-rail days as travelling with euro-star isn't covered by pass and I read even discounted rates are not as cheap as booking ahead. Does anyone know?)
Sun 14 - Bruges to Cologne
Tue 16 - Cologne to Munster
Thur 18 - Munster to Cologne
Night train from Cologne to Vienna
Fri 19 - Arrive Vienna
Train from Vienna to Budapest
Sun 22 - Budapest to Vienna
Vienna to Salzburg
Wed 24 - Vienna to Hallstatt
Fri 26 - Hallstatt to Vienna
Vienna to Munich
Sat 27 - Night train from Munich to Prague (Is this possible or necessary?)
Tue 30 - Prague to Berlin
Thu 1 or Fri 2 - Night train to Paris
Next few days - Paris to London (Again - I assume not needed to be included in inter-rail days.)
Thanks for any help, suggestions.
Me and a friend (20 and 18) are planning our first inter-rail trip, 22 days, I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on our itinerary. It could perhaps do with streamlining a bit and we are both conscious we are visiting more expensive countries on a low budget. I don't know if we are spending too much travelling and not enough time at the stops.
Fri 12 July - London to Bruges via Eurostar (planning to buy tickets as soon as possible to cut down on cost but if anyone has any cheaper solutions. I possibly wrongly assumed not needed to be included in inter-rail days as travelling with euro-star isn't covered by pass and I read even discounted rates are not as cheap as booking ahead. Does anyone know?)
Sun 14 - Bruges to Cologne
Tue 16 - Cologne to Munster
Thur 18 - Munster to Cologne
Night train from Cologne to Vienna
Fri 19 - Arrive Vienna
Train from Vienna to Budapest
Sun 22 - Budapest to Vienna
Vienna to Salzburg
Wed 24 - Vienna to Hallstatt
Fri 26 - Hallstatt to Vienna
Vienna to Munich
Sat 27 - Night train from Munich to Prague (Is this possible or necessary?)
Tue 30 - Prague to Berlin
Thu 1 or Fri 2 - Night train to Paris
Next few days - Paris to London (Again - I assume not needed to be included in inter-rail days.)
Thanks for any help, suggestions.
Feb 23rd, 2013, 01:30 PM
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I'm not familiar with the Inter-rail passes as it seems most people on this site don't live in Europe. I assume they operate the same way as other multi-country passes and don't include the Eurostar. They also don't include berths on overnight trains (you have to pay a supplement).
Man in Seat 61 seems to have much of it covered on his website.
http://www.seat61.com/InterRail-pass...m#.USlCszfEY9g
Rail Dude has some supplements listed.
http://www.raildude.com/en/interrail...and-supplement
Man in Seat 61 seems to have much of it covered on his website.
http://www.seat61.com/InterRail-pass...m#.USlCszfEY9g
Rail Dude has some supplements listed.
http://www.raildude.com/en/interrail...and-supplement
Feb 23rd, 2013, 04:21 PM
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You'll spend a lot of time in trains and you'll have little time in the cities you visit. Inter-rail trips are often like that and still can be a lot of fun since you meet people on the trains and then sepnd one evening with them before moving on. If you're interested in seeing more of the cities, I'd cut out some destinations.
Regardless of the decision, I think that you're back-tracking unnecessarily (if there's no reason to be at one of the locations at a certain time).
If the Eurostar isn't included in your ticket, it might be safer to fly to a destination if you book four months in advance with a budget airline.
Without a real change: I think it's simpler to go from Cologne to Munich and then to Vienna and then (after the side-trip to Budapest) to Prague.
If you go from Berlin to Paris, you basically bypass Münster and Cologne. You could think about visiting while going between the two cities.
If you fly and are willing to leave out Bruges, Cologne has an airport with some cheap charters. You could start your trip there.
If you want to spend more time in cities and think about reducing the number of places, I'd recommend to leave out Budapest since it's really out of the way (and I like Budapest).
As an alternative with flying and leaving out places: fly to Berlin, then Prague, Vienna, Halstatt, Munich, Cologne, side-trip to Münster, then Paris (via Bruges if you stil fance the additional train ride).
As for costs, Prague is certainly the cheapest place on your route. Berlin is probably the cheapest big German city, Munich one of the most expensive. But over-all Germany is in my opinion cheaper than London. If you want to add cheap destinations on my last itinerary, Dresden is between Berlin and Prague. Bratislava is very close to Vienna and a fun town in summer.
Regardless of the decision, I think that you're back-tracking unnecessarily (if there's no reason to be at one of the locations at a certain time).
If the Eurostar isn't included in your ticket, it might be safer to fly to a destination if you book four months in advance with a budget airline.
Without a real change: I think it's simpler to go from Cologne to Munich and then to Vienna and then (after the side-trip to Budapest) to Prague.
If you go from Berlin to Paris, you basically bypass Münster and Cologne. You could think about visiting while going between the two cities.
If you fly and are willing to leave out Bruges, Cologne has an airport with some cheap charters. You could start your trip there.
If you want to spend more time in cities and think about reducing the number of places, I'd recommend to leave out Budapest since it's really out of the way (and I like Budapest).
As an alternative with flying and leaving out places: fly to Berlin, then Prague, Vienna, Halstatt, Munich, Cologne, side-trip to Münster, then Paris (via Bruges if you stil fance the additional train ride).
As for costs, Prague is certainly the cheapest place on your route. Berlin is probably the cheapest big German city, Munich one of the most expensive. But over-all Germany is in my opinion cheaper than London. If you want to add cheap destinations on my last itinerary, Dresden is between Berlin and Prague. Bratislava is very close to Vienna and a fun town in summer.
Feb 24th, 2013, 02:08 AM
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Thank you - very helpful ideas. I feel like we are backtracking a lot and it would be nice to cut some of that out.
The only reason we return to Vienna is because from looking at train routes I assumed we would have to.
I'll check out thorntree, thanks!
The only reason we return to Vienna is because from looking at train routes I assumed we would have to.
I'll check out thorntree, thanks!
Feb 24th, 2013, 03:47 AM
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The main train route (east to west) is Vienna-Linz-Salzburg-Munich. So, Vienna-Salzburg is 2/3 of the way vienna-Munich already.
From Vienna to Salzburg: about 2 1/2 - 3 hrs
From Salzburg to Munich: 1h
How to Get To Hallstatt By Train:
Getting to Hallstatt by train from either Salzburg or Vienna is extremely easy. Trains from either Salzburg or Vienna require a quick train transfer from the national OBB train to a local REX train in Attnang-Puchheim. From Attnang-Puchheim, Salzburg is 50 minutes, Vienna is 135 minutes, and the connection to Hallstatt will take 25 minutes. The only goofy thing about taking the train to Hallstatt is that it actually drops you off across the lake from town and you need to take a ferry (4 Euros) across the lake to get to town. On the bright side, the ferry's schedule matches up to meet incoming trains and offers amazing coastal views of Hallstatt.
From Vienna to Salzburg: about 2 1/2 - 3 hrs
From Salzburg to Munich: 1h
How to Get To Hallstatt By Train:
Getting to Hallstatt by train from either Salzburg or Vienna is extremely easy. Trains from either Salzburg or Vienna require a quick train transfer from the national OBB train to a local REX train in Attnang-Puchheim. From Attnang-Puchheim, Salzburg is 50 minutes, Vienna is 135 minutes, and the connection to Hallstatt will take 25 minutes. The only goofy thing about taking the train to Hallstatt is that it actually drops you off across the lake from town and you need to take a ferry (4 Euros) across the lake to get to town. On the bright side, the ferry's schedule matches up to meet incoming trains and offers amazing coastal views of Hallstatt.
Feb 24th, 2013, 04:11 AM
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Ah, thank you, Watzmann, that's good news. Hallstatt sounds amazing. We really wanted to visit lakes, a have a day or two break from the city and Hallstatt seemed too wonderful to turn down.
I was wondering if anyone knows about the train from Munich to Prague? I read something about a sleeper but can't seem to find any times? Is a sleeper necessary for that route?
I was wondering if anyone knows about the train from Munich to Prague? I read something about a sleeper but can't seem to find any times? Is a sleeper necessary for that route?
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Night train connections are here: http://www.citynightline.de/citynigh...en/index.shtml
There doesn't seem to be one to Prague.
In general, the train connection from Munich to Prague isn't really fast. The distance is a bit less than 400km, by car something like 3hrs, 40 min.
Trains need between 5 and 6 hours.
A train called Alex (a private rail company) is the only direct connection between munich and prague. I don't know, wheter they accept the inter rail-ticket. They have a special offer called "Prag Spezial" for weekend trips to Prague from Munich.(website only in german, counter at Munich Station)
http://www.alex.info/de/tickets/prag...L98HNxV2QV2Qa7
There are cheap bus fares, leaving from Munich bus station.
Also, Deutsche Bahn offers a bus from Nuremberg to Prague.
A more scenic option (needs time) would be to go through the bavarian/bohemian forest via Passau, Haidmühle, Cesky Krumlov and Budweis/Budvar (slow regional trains, some 10 km at the border by bus)
There doesn't seem to be one to Prague.
In general, the train connection from Munich to Prague isn't really fast. The distance is a bit less than 400km, by car something like 3hrs, 40 min.
Trains need between 5 and 6 hours.
A train called Alex (a private rail company) is the only direct connection between munich and prague. I don't know, wheter they accept the inter rail-ticket. They have a special offer called "Prag Spezial" for weekend trips to Prague from Munich.(website only in german, counter at Munich Station)
http://www.alex.info/de/tickets/prag...L98HNxV2QV2Qa7
There are cheap bus fares, leaving from Munich bus station.
Also, Deutsche Bahn offers a bus from Nuremberg to Prague.
A more scenic option (needs time) would be to go through the bavarian/bohemian forest via Passau, Haidmühle, Cesky Krumlov and Budweis/Budvar (slow regional trains, some 10 km at the border by bus)
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