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cmt Oct 30th, 2004 05:33 AM

I LOVED Turkey! I almost cancelled the trip and decided about a week before departure to go. I'd injured my knee in August and was not really recovered enough to do all the walking and the optional hiking before I left, but I was OK by the time the difficult walks came up. This was a small group (10 people) tour with Overseas Adventure Travel, and it was a fascinating itinerary that I wouldn't have been able to carry through myself, given my unwillingness to rent a car and drive alone. By the time the trip was over I was pretty tired of most of my fellow travellers (and they may've felt the same), but I really loved the trip nevertheless. I especially loved Appadocia, a region of weird, unearthly, dry rock formations in which homes and churches and even an entire underground hidden city had been built. Though I vowed never to take a hot air balloon ride ever, I took one in Cappadocia and it was spectacular. I also enjoyed the 6-day cruise along the "turquoise coast" (Mediterranean), stopping at Greek and Roman archeological sites and at several interesting places to hike on steep goat trails and in rocky pastures and meet semi-nomadic herding people and talk with them (through our guide). Really I enjoyed all of it--I hate to neglect to mention impressive Istanbul, and staying in Antalya and seeing nearby archeological sites, and amazing Ephesus (despite the annoying tourist traps nearby), and spending a night in a small village near the Taurus Mts with a family of farmers who'd just watched the Kerry-Bush debates with interest on TV! I found the Turkish people warm, hospitable, proud, and bright, despite my irritation with some of the vendors who'd swarm around like mosquitoes at major tourist sites in Istanbul and Ephesus.

cmt Oct 30th, 2004 10:08 AM

Another spelling of his name seems to be Sevenoke. I guess that's the one you want. William Sevenoke.

cmt Oct 30th, 2004 11:55 AM

YK: Correction to my comments about my trip. I meant to write Cappadocia (not appadocia). Somehow the "C" didn't get typed.

harzer Oct 30th, 2004 05:18 PM

cmt and yk can toss to see who does the next clue.

Harzer

yk Oct 30th, 2004 06:53 PM

cmt, I think you're up next to give a clue. (I don't think I should be counted as 50% right as I only came up with the first name William!)

cmt Oct 30th, 2004 07:03 PM

I don't understand Harzer's post. Is William Sevenoke correct or is it still wrong but he's giving up on getting the correct answer from any of us? Seems right to me.

harzer Oct 30th, 2004 11:42 PM

Well, yk was half right to get William and you were 90% right to get Sevenoaks, and then you corrected it to Sevenokes which my source gave as THE right spelling, so I guess you win the toss, and I can look forward to another multilayered question that I can't even BEGIN to solve.

Harzer

111op Nov 1st, 2004 02:52 AM

That's a fantastic trip, cmt!

yk Nov 1st, 2004 09:13 AM

I've been so busy with work that I didn't have a chance to play this thread. Now that I have a few days off, I'll go ahead to post a clue now.

cmt- feel free to jump in anytime with your clue. Thanks for the trip highlights!

Clue:
This female figure (non-European) is turning 30 this month. Her portrait recently appeared in a crop circle in Southern England. Also, a famous handbag designer (6,6) made a purse with her portrait on it to celebrate her 30th birthday.

Female figure: 5,5 ("e" = 2nd letter of first name)
Designer: 6,6 ("e" = 2nd letter of last name)

111op Nov 1st, 2004 09:33 AM

Hello Kitty and Judith Leiber?

http://pageuser.auctions.shopping.ya...p;aucview=0x34

I was the one who used Judith Leiber in a clue, but I had no idea that she created a Hello Kitty purse....

yk Nov 1st, 2004 09:39 AM

That is correct!

Here is a link to the crop circle picture from Hello! Magazine.
http://www.hellomagazine.com/newsinp...p;currentImg=6

I guess using the term "purse" is an insult to Judith Leiber. It should have been a "minaudière". Did you know that Judith Leiber is from Hungary?

111op Nov 1st, 2004 09:42 AM

No. But I might have read somewhere that she was an immigrant.

I guess I need to try to give a clue which cmt can replace. I think that I've given too many clues so it's hard to think of good ones.

yk Nov 1st, 2004 09:45 AM

About Judith Leiber:
http://www.smithsonianmag.si.edu/smi...01/object.html

111op Nov 1st, 2004 09:53 AM

Ok, this will have to do for now.

Clue: These two female authors both died rather tragically and young.

The first is a famous American (6, 5) whose husband (3, 5), though accomplished in his own right, is usually overshadowed by his wife and is of this nationality (7).

The second woman (5, 4) shares the husband's nationality. A much more recent literary figure, she seems to be enjoying much more popularity now that she's dead. Her works have supposedly been translated into at least a dozen languages. Her "speciality" is different from that of either of the two literary figures above.

4th letter of last name of 2nd woman = "e"

111op Nov 1st, 2004 09:57 AM

Clarification: By the way, the three people don't really share much in common (beyond the connections I've pointed out). I wanted to give a clue on the second woman, whom I only just read about recently, but it was difficult to figure out a way to phrase the clue without giving away much of anything -- so the bringing in of the other two figures.

111op Nov 1st, 2004 10:08 AM

Correction -- husband's name is 3, 6. But they became separated.

yk Nov 1st, 2004 10:11 AM

Literature is my worst subject (with math/physics in close 2nd). Hmm... wonder if I'm actually good in anything?
Guess I'll pass on this clue.

111op Nov 1st, 2004 10:15 AM

Well, it shouldn't be too difficult to figure out the husband/wife pair, as the wife is really quite famous. I've not read any of her stuff but I've still heard of her.

But, well, maybe cmt will come back and give us a better clue in the meantime.

111op Nov 2nd, 2004 05:44 AM

In case someone wants to work on the clue until cmt replaces it, here're some hints:

1. The first woman went to Smith College.

2. Her (former) husband is a poet.

3. Both women committed suicide.

It's really not hard to famous the pair, but getting the third woman may be more difficult. You first need to figure out what sorts of things she may be writing.

111op Nov 2nd, 2004 05:45 AM

Oops -- not third woman. I meant the second woman. :-)


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