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111op Oct 25th, 2004 07:33 AM

Yes. It was MJ and the baby.

Your clue.

Dr_DoGood Oct 25th, 2004 07:49 AM

I'm afraid you'll have to hang on an hour or so until I'm home from work!

Dr D

Dr_DoGood Oct 25th, 2004 08:54 AM

A famous painting hangs in the National Gallery in London (3,8,9,6,2,3,4,5,2,2,6,2) exhibited at the RA in 1839 and painted by England's finest painter of that century (6,7,7,6) (and arguably any other) who has an entire wing of one of London's other premier world-class galleries to his own.

It shows, symbolically, the passing of the age of sail and the birth of a new age of steam with a brilliant but poignant depiction of a final voyage.

In order to do this the artist deliberately depicted the journey in exactly the opposite direction from the actual (being Sheerness to Rotherhithe). Explain.

So - a 3-parter:
1/ The name of the painting (sorry it's so long!),
2/ The painter,
3/ (for bonus caché) a brief explanation of the famous "error".

Note: the first letter of the second six-letter word in the painting's title is 'B' from Berlin.
The first letter of the artist's second name is 'M' from Michael.

Dr D.

111op Oct 25th, 2004 09:02 AM

Well obviously the painter is Turner, or Joseph Mallord William Turner. Who else has such a long name?

Off to check the painting. :-)

111op Oct 25th, 2004 09:06 AM

I attach a link from the National Gallery web page:

http://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/cg...rkNumber=ng524


111op Oct 25th, 2004 09:33 AM

Clue: He (5, 6) brought this city's orhcestra to prominence (city: 10), but now holds one of the most coveted positions in classical music as the conductor of this orchestra (6, 12).

2nd letter of last name = "a"

Dr_DoGood Oct 25th, 2004 02:09 PM

Ah... Sir Simon Rattle,
Birmingham
Berlin Philharmonic

Are you on a Berlin kick at the moment by any chance? :)

Dr D.

111op Oct 25th, 2004 02:12 PM

Yes!

Well, I'm running out of good clues to give, frankly. My trip to Andalucia spurred a bunch of clues related to that part of the world. Maybe I need to take another trip to refresh. :-)

Your clue.

Dr_DoGood Oct 25th, 2004 02:37 PM

Hung drawn and quartered on 29th November 1330 this traitor (4,2,5) was caught by the king himself in the arms of the king's mother (5, 6). The king had ingress into their chamber through a secret passage, now named after that traitor (9,4) which is still open to the public beneath the castle (10)- a castle which features heavily in popular folklore and Hollywood both, but which has been twice replaced and was famously destroyed by rioting stocking and lace workers only to be reborn as the first public arts gallery outside London .

1/The Traitor (4,2,5) First letter of 3rd word 'M' from Birmingham
2/The King's mother (5,6) First letter of 2nd word 'I' from Berlin
3/The Secret Passage (9,4) Fourth letter 'T' from Rattle
4/The Castle (10) last letter 'M' from Simon

Dr D.

harzer Oct 25th, 2004 02:57 PM

i don't get it - my traitor is called Roger Mortimer, the mother was Isabella, the passageway was Mortimer's Hole and the castle was Nottingham.

But only the last two match the required letter-count. And it wasn't the king himself but some courtiers on his orders who caught the pair in flagrante.

Harzer

Dr_DoGood Oct 25th, 2004 03:08 PM

Roger Mortimer has a title (4,2,5)
and Isabella is often known as Queen Isobel and it's often said that it was the young Edward III who himself was lead up through the passage way to arrest his father's murderer.

Spot on though!


111op Oct 26th, 2004 08:18 AM

harzer, next clue?

Of course, it's now easy to find out what the title is....

http://db.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/s...ml?question=33

Mortimer is Earl of March.

yk Oct 28th, 2004 04:33 PM

topping for harzer

harzer Oct 29th, 2004 03:29 PM

He was discovered as an infant abandoned on the streets of London yet subsequently became Lord Mayor.

He founded one of the most expensive private schools in England which bears his name though with a more modern spelling.

His name was 7,8 and the first name intersects at its fifth letter with the i of 'Mortimer'.

Harzer

yk Oct 29th, 2004 05:28 PM

William Thompson?

harzer Oct 30th, 2004 12:58 AM

Half right yk!

Harzer

cmt Oct 30th, 2004 01:30 AM

William SevenOaks?

harzer Oct 30th, 2004 02:31 AM

90% right!

The spelling?

Harzer

cmt Oct 30th, 2004 03:43 AM

Sevenoaks is the spelling I saw on most sites. He was named after the town of SevenOaks where he was found. Later his name may have been shortened to Snooks, but the school he founded is still called Sevenoaks. In a few places I saw the name of the man and the school as Sevenoak, apparently misspelled.

yk Oct 30th, 2004 04:42 AM

Hi cmt, welcome back! How was your trip?

One of my good friends actually attended Sevenoaks! Apparently I did not know the history of the school.


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