Before Sunset
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We just saw this movie this weekend. I'm still haunted by it. What really amazed me, upon analysis, is how natural and unscripted the dialogue was. I remember thinking the same about "Before Sunrise"--that it was the same type of conversations I remember having in college--and was impressed they were able to maintain the same feel for this movie. Both my husband and I loved it and the ending was just perfect.
#43
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First, I've seen both movies (Sunrise and Sunset) and really enjoyed them.
But, since this is a travel message board, I wonder if anyone has figured out just where in Paris the characters are walking in Before Sunset. I was following along OK until they start walking along what appears to be a narrow, elevated, park. Don't know where on the left bank that would be...starting at Shakespeare & Co. and ending back at the quay along the Seine.
Anybody have the answer?
But, since this is a travel message board, I wonder if anyone has figured out just where in Paris the characters are walking in Before Sunset. I was following along OK until they start walking along what appears to be a narrow, elevated, park. Don't know where on the left bank that would be...starting at Shakespeare & Co. and ending back at the quay along the Seine.
Anybody have the answer?
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The elevated part is the Promenade Plantee.
They start off in Shakespeare & Co. Then they are walking along the rue St-Julien-le-Pauvre then they veer off towards the rue Monge area. SUDDENLY they are in the Marais near the Village St-Paul (I recognized some of the signs). Then SUDDENLY they're on the Promenade Plantee (above the Viaduc des Artes). Please see my notes above where I outlined it a little more in depth.
I would like to know the name of the cafe.
They start off in Shakespeare & Co. Then they are walking along the rue St-Julien-le-Pauvre then they veer off towards the rue Monge area. SUDDENLY they are in the Marais near the Village St-Paul (I recognized some of the signs). Then SUDDENLY they're on the Promenade Plantee (above the Viaduc des Artes). Please see my notes above where I outlined it a little more in depth.
I would like to know the name of the cafe.
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Awesome KidstoLondon (David, right???)!! What a great exchange of information. I'll bet it is the same since they moved to the Marais, went to the cafe and then were seen on the Promenade Plantee (Viaduc des Artes) which is in the 11th; just stands to reason. I was telling my kids just last night that this is one of those movies I'd love to see again on the big screen - WOW!!
Didn't you just feel like you were walking along with them?
Didn't you just feel like you were walking along with them?
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Betsy these are not in Paris. but if you can get, the original french film of The man who loved women.""
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Also ask Facets to send you their French video Catalog. I've bought many vids from them. Those who live in remote areas can rent from them.
A great search engine for their inventory.
www.facets.org
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I just saw this yesterday. Charming movie and interesting dialogue -- if a bit scripted, some nonsensical and some really clever and funny.
But I do enjoy this more than the Eric Rohmer movie ("Ma Nuit chez Maud"
that I saw, which is much more serious. By the way, with no disrepect for cigalechanta, watching Rohmer's movies have been likened to watching paint dry. I forget who said this actually, but a Google search may reveal the proper attribution.
There's not enough of Paris in "Before Sunset" though.
Another movie with nice shots of Paris is Woody Allen's "Everyone Says I Love You." I don't think I've seen this mentioned her. It's a pseduo-musical. I find it quite enjoyable. It's set in NYC, Paris and Venice.
But I do enjoy this more than the Eric Rohmer movie ("Ma Nuit chez Maud"
that I saw, which is much more serious. By the way, with no disrepect for cigalechanta, watching Rohmer's movies have been likened to watching paint dry. I forget who said this actually, but a Google search may reveal the proper attribution.There's not enough of Paris in "Before Sunset" though.
Another movie with nice shots of Paris is Woody Allen's "Everyone Says I Love You." I don't think I've seen this mentioned her. It's a pseduo-musical. I find it quite enjoyable. It's set in NYC, Paris and Venice.
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I finally saw "Everyone Says I Love You" Friday night! For a musical it's wonderful!! I don't normally enjoy musicals too much.
How can you say not enough of Paris was shown in the movie, they're constantly walking thru Paris!! Is it because it didn't show enough of the famous landmarks? I myself was thrilled to be walking down familiar streets with these characters, catching glimpses of well-known churches in the background, familiar street signs.
I loved the dialogue, especially considering that much of it was ad-libbed. There was a freshness & immediacy to the interchange between the characters. This is one movie I've vowed to see again on the big screen before it's gone forever to video.
I, too, love Love in the Afternoon, mon chere, Cigalechanta, especially the Paris scenes, the view of rue Malebranche (which is why I looked up the address my last trip!), the view of the Ritz from the top of the Vendome tower. But my favorite Audrey Hepburn film (filmed in Paris) is still Charade. I took it home this weekend just so my mom could watch/share it with me.
I also finally got to see The Truth About Charlie which was good but not nearly as good as Charade - paled in comparison. Plus, it didn't seem to be as witty, there wasn't the riposte & rejoinder that you find between Hepburn and Grant, nor the inside jokes (Grant saying to Hepburn "right here, on the street where you live" ~ from My Fair Lady, or him saying to Jean Louis "clever fellow" which is one of his lines from An Affair to Remember).
How can you say not enough of Paris was shown in the movie, they're constantly walking thru Paris!! Is it because it didn't show enough of the famous landmarks? I myself was thrilled to be walking down familiar streets with these characters, catching glimpses of well-known churches in the background, familiar street signs.
I loved the dialogue, especially considering that much of it was ad-libbed. There was a freshness & immediacy to the interchange between the characters. This is one movie I've vowed to see again on the big screen before it's gone forever to video.
I, too, love Love in the Afternoon, mon chere, Cigalechanta, especially the Paris scenes, the view of rue Malebranche (which is why I looked up the address my last trip!), the view of the Ritz from the top of the Vendome tower. But my favorite Audrey Hepburn film (filmed in Paris) is still Charade. I took it home this weekend just so my mom could watch/share it with me.
I also finally got to see The Truth About Charlie which was good but not nearly as good as Charade - paled in comparison. Plus, it didn't seem to be as witty, there wasn't the riposte & rejoinder that you find between Hepburn and Grant, nor the inside jokes (Grant saying to Hepburn "right here, on the street where you live" ~ from My Fair Lady, or him saying to Jean Louis "clever fellow" which is one of his lines from An Affair to Remember).
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I don't think that I'm giving anything away regarding the movie when I say this -- but you know, I was quite glad when the Ethan Hawke character said in the cafe something like "I'll be on the plane for the next eight hours. Do you mind if we walk around Paris a bit?" Yes, that was good. 
I think that NYC, Paris and Venice come across as absolutely charming in the Woody Allen movie. I suppose the walk/conversation in "Before Sunset" is meant to be realistic, so in that sense I can't fault the way Paris is portrayed in the movie. It was funny when Delpy sort of cringed about the boat cruise though, claiming that it's for the tourists.

I think that NYC, Paris and Venice come across as absolutely charming in the Woody Allen movie. I suppose the walk/conversation in "Before Sunset" is meant to be realistic, so in that sense I can't fault the way Paris is portrayed in the movie. It was funny when Delpy sort of cringed about the boat cruise though, claiming that it's for the tourists.

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Ahhh, but then she did appear to enjoy it so much! And of course I was mentally comparing it to the only other bateaux mouche movie scene I've ever seen and that was on Charade.
Ooooh, I did so love the Venice scenes in Everyone Says I Love You. I had never really wanted to see Venice but NOW I know what the fuss is all about. I love how Julia Roberts & Woody Allen describe how Venice is just a jumble of streets. That so intrigues me!!
Ooooh, I did so love the Venice scenes in Everyone Says I Love You. I had never really wanted to see Venice but NOW I know what the fuss is all about. I love how Julia Roberts & Woody Allen describe how Venice is just a jumble of streets. That so intrigues me!!
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Oh Beatchick, you need to see Venice, that's for sure. Of course the Allen movie is unrealistic, but the Tintoretto scenes are quite amusing.
I thought that Delpy's lines were better than Hawke's. I wonder if who wrote what (I think that they both wrote some of their dialogue). Also I found it interesting that in real life, Delpy went to NYU film school, so she did live in New York. In some ways, she doesn't strike me as terribly French -- perhaps this has something to do with her spending time in America, and this fits the character very well as well.
I thought that Delpy's lines were better than Hawke's. I wonder if who wrote what (I think that they both wrote some of their dialogue). Also I found it interesting that in real life, Delpy went to NYU film school, so she did live in New York. In some ways, she doesn't strike me as terribly French -- perhaps this has something to do with her spending time in America, and this fits the character very well as well.
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Oh, exactly 111op, one of the charms of the movie is that the actors used elements in their own lives to lend credence to the film, i.e. Delpy's turn at NYC and her singing, Hawke's turn at writing & his falling-apart-marriage. They DID write part of the dialogue as well as ad-libbing some of the lines. It's all of these elements that made the film WORK for me!! Well, and also I liked that Delpy seemed awkward and somewhat insecure as that's how I feel when around an old flame, or even around an old friend I haven't seen in a while ~ it made it more real for me.
Maybe some won't like it or understand its charms but that's okay. Vive la difference!!
I can't WAIT to see the first one!
The Tintoretto scenes were lovely/cool but I just loved the jogging scenes through Venice. Please tell me that Venice really is that lovely!!
Maybe some won't like it or understand its charms but that's okay. Vive la difference!!
I can't WAIT to see the first one!
The Tintoretto scenes were lovely/cool but I just loved the jogging scenes through Venice. Please tell me that Venice really is that lovely!!

