Sorry, that should be >bars that receive MORE than 20% of its revenue from food service.<

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Philadelphia is a very walkable city, but a good location for the historic sites is the Holiday Inn at 4th and Arch. It's rather depressingly 70's on the outside, but the inside has been renovated and it's reasonably nice. Your price, though, would be determined by when you go; I got it for around $100 between Christmas and New Years, but am guessing it's higher in the summer season.

Here are some good ideas for what to do/where to go:
http://www.fodors.com/community/unit...-itinerary.cfm

and don't miss the food thread:
http://www.fodors.com/community/unit...iladelphia.cfm

Enjoy your visit!

Fx - we're from NYC and had a great time in Philadelphia last July 4th (see my TR). We're going back again this 4th. More art than historic sites. And lots of great food. This time we're including Longwood Gardens.

Does the Amtrak and the busses take you right into the heart of Manhattan from Philly? Also, how long does a bus take to get there and where is the bus terminal in comparison to the Downtown Marriott? Does anyone know the price of the bus and Amtrak from Philly to Manhattan?

Being our first time in NYC, what should we see if we can only spend one day there?

"Does the Amtrak and the busses take you right into the heart of Manhattan from Philly?"

Yes. If you look at the bus websites you will see the locations where the bus drops you off

which bus would be best to go into NYC fromPhilly?

I usually take Boltbus - it stops at central locations in both NYC and Philly. https://www.boltbus.com/

Don't know if it's too late for the original poster -- but for others reading this thread ... I just got the Radisson Warwick Hotel -- 17th & Locust -- on Priceline for $68/night. That location (near Rittenhouse Square) is perfect for the museums and the Reading Terminal Market -- and about a mile from the historical sites (i.e., Independance Hall, etc ...) I enjoy walking so that's perfect for me -- but one could easily jump on the subway or take a bus or taxi.

i got the Mariott on priceline for $75?

Are you asking us or telling us?

Which Marriott?

the DT Mariott on Market st. Is that a good location?

Leaving tomorrow for Philly. We would like to know some inexpensive, but good places to eat in Philly and also New York?

does philly have any good italian that is inexpensive place to get some good spaghetti?

Off the top of my head, am thinking you're most likely to find red sauce Italian eats in the Italian Market area. Haven't eaten at any of them, so I can't make a specific recommendation.

Food options in Philly and NYC are extensively well covered on this board, and a search should yield good results. Also take a look at the chowhound.com website.

The classic red sauce Italian place in Philadelphia is Ralph's Italian: http://www.ralphsrestaurant.com/

There are a bunch of traditional Italian places, as well as a few chains.

For Philadelphia food, check this list: http://www.fodors.com/community/unit...iladelphia.cfm A lot of the inexpensive food is in places like the Italian Market, Chinatown, the Reading Terminal Market, and street carts.

The downtown Marriott is a good location, right at the Reading Terminal Market (great eats and food shopping) and within easy walking distance (unless it's 95 degrees, in which case you might want to take the El train) to the historic area.