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After visiting some other travel forums, I have to say I really love this one because of the "personality" it has. <BR> <BR>In other forums, people ask, "What's the best time of year to go to Topeka?" Typically, the answers will be something vanilla like "spring." Here, however, you'll get some useful answers, but you'll also get the maniacs who rant , "Why in the world would anyone want to go to Topeka?" Or "I was in Topeka once and everyone there is a racist pig." Or "Never!" <BR> <BR>I love it! Keep up the good work!

I'm glad you like it! We try to please everyone.

Well, people who watch NASCAR will deny it, but they're waiting for a good crash. <BR> <BR>And Fodorites are just hanging around waiting for a good, old fashioned, bare-knuckles smack-down brawl. It adds spice to our pitiful lives in our pitiful cubicles.

to Lickin, OK here you go, you ignorant fool. Some of the best NASCAR races that I have seen did not involve crashes or the crashes just interupted the good racing. OUCH quit jabbin till I'm done with my rant. Go Tony Stewart. OK Ive really opened my self up now hit with your best shots.

Oh, dear, Greg. When I see NASCAR highlights on the news, I see cars crashing. Flying through the air and all. You never see highlights of cars just following each other around the track, lap after lap. <BR> <BR>Other sports aren't like that. In basketball, it's the dunk. In baseball, it's the home run. In football, it's the runback or the bomb. But in Nascar, it's the crash. Sad but true. <BR>

YeeHaw! NASCAR trolls! <BR>Who says it’s only car races we watch for the carnage? Boxing? Bobsleds? Ski Jumping? And for every Immaculate Reception you see in football replays, how many John Madden “pows” have you seen first? My wife watches figure skating for the gracefulness, I watch it for the falls. I personally like NASCAR for the subtle advertising, and for the regional accents, seemingly from every part of Oklahoma. <BR>

TV Sports highlights show the game and anything extraordinary that may have happened during the game. In baseball they show the home runs, but they also show a beaning. In football they show the touchdowns but they also show a season ending injury. In NASCAR they show the highlights of the race, but they also show a bad accident. That no more means NASCAR fans watch racing for the wrecks than baseball fans watch baseball to see someone get hit in the face by a line drive. <BR>

But there ARE no highlights in Nascar. Just the dizzying round and round and round and round and round we go. If there's no crash, the sports desk just skips Nascar completely. Really, which lap would you show? Lap 48? No wait! Some guy changed a tire in Lap 178. Let's go with that! <BR> <BR>zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz <BR> <BR>Add the bumpkin factor, and you've really got something a hillbilly could love. Nascar fans are so dumb that they are about the only fans willing to sit in stands in which a lethal object might hit them in the head. Even baseball fans have more sense than that!

What's a broken bat flying into the stands or a line drive foul ball, chopped liver?

A broken bat or line drive compared to flaming hunks of auto wreckage? Please. Heck, people try to CATCH baseballs that fly into the stands. How many Nascar fans try to catch tires coming at them at 200 mph? How many baseball fans have been killed in the last year compared to race car fans? No comparison.

Hey Aha! <BR> <BR>"flaming hunks of auto wreckage" for some reason just hit me right and the end result = ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!! <BR> <BR>Oh geez, now I'm gonna get flamed by somebody who knew somebody that lost a loved one due to being the final resting spot of "flaming hunks of auto wreckage". I apologize. Aha's description is what has me in stiches, not the pain and suffering of others. And nobody should take the time to sue me. I don't own anything!

<BR>"Flaming hunks of auto wreckage??" Since you seem the expert, for 50 points, when was the last time a NASCAR fan was killed by "flaming hunks of auto wreckage"? <BR> <BR>You been drinking?

TO: Aha! <BR>Please be advised that I did some investigating and very serious research to try to find an answer to your question "how many fans at a NASCAR race <BR>try to catch tires coming at them at 200 miles per hour?" I was quite impressed to find out that thr number is now down to only 80% of the people at the event!! Note that this is down from 85% just 5 years ago.

Seriously, I live in Northern Virginia, and in the last year or so, we have had two incidents of fans (at least one fan per incident, but I believe one incident was four fans) being killed or grievously injured by flaming hunks of auto wreckage. Interestingly, the victims were not particularly close to the track, but that wreckage can fly really far. They probably had no idea they were gonna die that night until they looked up and saw that big ol' racecar carcass hurtling toward them. <BR> <BR>I will note that I do not know if these were officially sanctioned Nascar events; I'm talling about auto racing in general. There was an outcry about how they needed to build walls to prevent this, but they buried the dead fans, and no one cares anymore. <BR> <BR>Oh, and I do not know if the wreckage was actually engulfed in flames when it landed on the fans. The fire may have been extinguished by the wind as the wreckage was launched from the track. <BR> <BR>So, do I get 50 points per incident, or do I get 50 points for each dead Nascar fan?

Yippee, I thought this was going to be just another troll about trolls. But Noooooo -- NASCAR bashing. Yayrah. <BR> <BR>I live near NASCAR Ground Zero in NC. I've even been to two races. Anyone who claims that the excitement has nothing to do with the potential for crashes is either "flat-stupid" (as they say here) or lying like a Woolworth's rug. <BR> <BR>Sure, like they don't slow down to rubber-neck at wrecks on the road either. And people watch boxing just for the skill, hockey just for the grace (hoohah), and football for the passing games. And you go to bullfights for the cape display and Romans watched Christians and lions for the choreography. <BR> <BR>If it were possible to guarantee, 100%, that there would be no crashes and no injuries -- maybe lots of padding, guardrails between lanes, bigtime magnets to keep cars on course, computer-driven braking, etc. -- no one would ever go to these races. "Aha!" is absolutely right -- otherwise, it's boring: they go around and around and around and around and around and around andaround and around and around and.... <BR> <BR>Sure fans like speed, but speed with danger is the thing. The main thing. <BR> <BR>The fact that Dale Earnhart (RIP) died in a crash just ups the ante. Lots of sentiment and emotion and a fresh memory of horror and bang-boom "oh jeez no!" <BR> <BR>Road-rage as entertainment -- it's all- American!

Now one of the major networks has dumped other sports programming on weekends in favor of Nascar. <BR> <BR>That's just great! Now that nonsense is on several hours each weekend. <BR> <BR>How did Nascar ever become a sport, anyway? I could run farther and faster than one of those drivers. I could probably do more pushups, too, and I'm a woman, for cryin' out loud. <BR> <BR>Did you hear that bridge is a demonstration sport in one of the next olympics? The winter olympics, I believe. Sitting on your big butt playing cards is a winter sport. What next? Freestyle remote control punching? Cocktail plate balancing, with drink? The Nacho relay?

I heard Iraq will be unbeatable in the potato sack race.

Hey Rebel against Nascar, <BR> <BR>Michael Waltrip runs in the Boston Marathon. Those drivers spend a lot of time pumping iron in the gym to give them and edge over the other guys. Since they are always wearing those logo encrusted uniforms, we never get to see their buff bodies with buldging muscles . . .

Sorry, Aha! No points for you. <BR> <BR>Does anyone out there know when the last fan was killed at a NASCAR race? I would guess that it's been several years. <BR> <BR> <BR>

Who cares if Waltrip runs in the Boston Marathon? The majority of NASCAR Fans are just a bunch of BUBBAS with beer bellies or trailer park white trash and their women have big hair and wear tube tops...

Hoo hah: <BR>I didn't know Woolworth's sold rugs! Are they purty? Kin I git me one???

To all of you people knocking NASCAR show me any other sport that sells 100,000 tickets on average to every game, event, whatever. Look at the stands at a baseball or basketball game and notice all the empty seats. Baseball has got to be the most boring pastime there is since the so called athletes spend half the time sitting on a bench and the other half standing in the field waiting for something to happen and they might spend 2 or 3 minutes actually playing the game. And to YADAYADAYADA you are just to stupid to argue with to make a statement like that. You obviously dont have a clue what type of people are NASCAR fans. So just go get back back in bed with your sister and continue inbreeding.

Well, if someone can explain what is "athletic" about sitting in a car and going in circles for 400-500 miles then I'm sure we'd all feel so enlightened...

Ah, the attractions of NASCAR. A stylish crowd of excellent dressers. Physically attractive people. Wonderful ambiance. Haut food and drink. Interesting endeavors watching things go round and round. Enlightening commentary. Travelling to and from in some of the more desirable of vehicles. A pleasant way to spend time. Uplifting. You can scratch whatever needs it. And it's on TV when you just cannot make the track. Experience of a lifetime. Ciao

Nascarnope, I would like to see your fat lazy ass strapped in a race car for 3-4 hours in 150 degree heat with no break going 180 miles an hour. If you lose concentration or make the slightest mistake it could cost you your life. If you dont like it dont watch it, just change the channel even though I doubt that your pea brain could successfully operate a remote control.

Leone, who are you trying to impress? Well I have news for you it is not working.

Hey, come on, watching NASCAR races on T.V. is fun! Where else can you see real live fans with green teeth, and in some instances, no teeth at all! And let's not forget those tank tops, tube tops, tube socks and all kinds of clothing that one so rarely gets a chance to see otside of a trailer park! I say keep NASCAR on t.v. it's soooo entertaining!

Greg, take a look at this brainless argument about NASCAR ... talk about impressing. You'll never see those dolts offer any travel advice on this site ... basically, they're the stay-at-home types, oh, except when they're at the track watching and waiting. Have a good weekend. Ciao

Hey Phttttt; <BR> <BR>Better get those shoes off and redo your counting. <BR> <BR>OK, conceed that 100,000 go to a big NASCAR race. 1 race x 100,000 people = 100,000. <BR> <BR>15 MLB games a day X an average of 20,000 = 300,000. <BR> <BR>

L talking about Nascar is like me talking about ballet. <BR> <BR>Hey L, stick to something you know, like bocce ball.

Hey, XXX, I'll make you a deal ... I'll stick to something I know, like thinking, and you'll avoid doing things you know not, like trying to think. BTW, aren't you the same XXX that posters branded as the most negative poster on Fodors? Yep, I think that's you, boy-o. Ciao

As this is a travel site, perhaps we can get serious again. Maybe we can discuss the best way to travel from one race to the other on the NASCAR scene and good truck stops, er I mean restaurants to stop at in between. <BR> I also think that we should consider stopping the NASCAR fan bashing as I'm sure many of them are well educated and have degrees in such things as, well they at least went to the 6th grade because you have to go until you're 16 and, oh--------------------------

Oh, L, please. Why don't you go back to work and sell a few more used cars?

Oh, and XXX, no lame attempts at humor either. Isn't it time for you to get back on the leash? Ciao

Dale Erhnhard, Richard Petty, Al Unser . . . <BR> <BR>Those guys are BUFF? Are you kidding me? Good lord, Tiger Woods could kick their butts. <BR> <BR>To be fair, however, Nascar racers could probably smackdown professional bowlers. But that's not saying much. <BR> <BR>The fact that Nascar is popular is a really sad argument. That just shows that there's a large underclass in the United States. Heck, WW wrestling is popular, but that doesn't make it a real sport worthy of any respect.

I agree with Leon or whomever he goes by. I have attended quite a few races in my past years and please, they are hicks, beer drinking guzzlers and the women certainly do not look or act like ladies, they look like tramps. Call me bias, or whatever not my kind of stuff, the reason I attended was due to the fact my boyfriend @ the time sponsored quite a few (he owns a big corporation) <BR>and, even though we always had skybox seats, no one could pay me to sit in the bleachers......

<BR>No L I believe it is you that gets the reward for most negative poster. You contribute no useful travel tips. I also nominate you for most ignorant poster as well. <BR> <BR>From the posts I am seeing today it appears several other people are tiring of your broken record routine. You have basically no credibility on this board anymore so how about caioing on out of here. <BR> <BR>CYA!

Blahblah- Eloquently put and yes, I can even operate two remotes at once if need be. I think Leone and others have more than adequately spoken to the attraction (or lack thereof) of NASCAR. <BR> <BR>My initial query (albeit derisive in tone) was really about how NASCAR became a "sport" all of a sudden and why it now trumps coverage of major championships in other sports, as well as baseball highlights, on ESPN. I mean, do we care who won the Goody's Epsom Salt 200 or whatever? I guess some people do consider it a aport but I'll take your word for it. You can peruse the rest of the posts to see there are many people who wonder the same thing as well as many others about this phenomenon, to put it politely. That's all I was getting at...have fun at the track this weekend. <BR> <BR>As Leone says...ciao.

Well, to the anti's, I bid you farewell with a big CIAO. Now, if you'd like to discuss some travel, I'm your person. But if it's going to be more of this round and round car business, well, then I refer you to the previous posters ... besides, what's to contribute? Now, how many of you anti's have been more than 100 miles from where you were dropped? Okay, show those hands ... don't be bashful. Hmmm, not so many. Something tells me value added time is over, so I think I'll just boogie on outta here and start the weekend. Need I say ciao once again?

<BR>Great idea L! Be careful if you actually back away from your computer and venture outside - the light will be pretty bright for an internet junkie like yourself who is accustomed to staying inside day and night.