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TroutmanJ Oct 7th, 2014 10:28 AM

Hawaii - Honeymoon Resort Recommendations
 
My fiancé and I are going to be honeymooning end of April-early May of 2015 and we are looking to go to Hawaii. We would like feedback on a few things.

1. From preliminary research we seem to have narrowed down the search to Maui, Kauai, and possibly Oahu. We are not against Big Island but unless someone can make a strong case for it we think we would like to find a place at one of the three I mentioned. Is Oahu going to be a good place for honeymoon? Or too overrun by families and non-couples? I have seen a few good resorts for honeymoons (Kahala Resort) online that are on Oahu so I am a little bit torn.

2. Our budget is $5,000 for about a 10 night stay without airfare. I kind of want to get a place under $400 (probably close to $350) per night that way we can spend some money on the amenities/activities, is this a good strategy?

3. We want a beach setting at a 4 or 5 star place and it seems during that time of year I can find several resorts under $400 per night but I don't know if they're primarily honeymoon/couples resorts or more for families etc. So any recommendations would be welcome or comments on the following:

Sheraton Kauai
Lotus Honolulu @ Diamondhead
Hyatt Regency Waikiki
Hilton Hawaiian Village
Wailea Beach Marriott
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort
Hyatt Regency
Honua Kai
Sheraton Maui
Koa Kea
Kahala Hotel & Resort
Moana Surfrider (Westin)
Westin Maui
Trump International Waikiki
Royal Hawaiin
Westin Ka'anapali Ocean Resort
Grand Hyatt Kauai Resort
St. Regis Princeville
Grand Wailea
Ritz Carlton Kapalua
Turtle Bay Resort
Fairmont Kea Lani

sf7307 Oct 7th, 2014 10:39 AM

Are you planning on staying put (one hotel/resort for all 10 nights)?

Here are some thoughts regarding the listed hotels:

The two Sheratons you mention are in great locations but aren't the same quality level as many of the others. For example, comparing the Sheraton Kauai to the Grand Hyatt is apples and oranges. on the other hand, the Sheraton is on a nice beach, and you can't swim at the Grand Hyatt beach.

The Royal Hawaiian is a lovely grand hotel. Old-time, but redone.

The Grand Hyatt Kauai is more glitz and glamour than old-time loveliness, but still very very lovely (not the rooms so much, they're pretty "standard issue", but the common spaces and pools).

The Hyatt Regency Waikiki is like most other Hyatt Regencys. Its also across the street from the beach (which isn't really a problem, just pointing it out).

Honua Kai is too far from Kaanapali for my taste (I don't like the isolation), but it is a very nice complex - newish, too.

Princeville hotels - both hotels are very nice and upscale, but be aware they are located on a cliff, so above the ocean, not walk-out. I'm not a Princeville fan, but many on here love it.

Koa Kea is on a great beach, and is a secluded boutique hotel. I haven't seen it since it opened, but it seems perfect for a honeymoon!

One of the Westins you mentioned on Maui is on the busy side of Black Rock (the side I like, but others prefer more seclusion) and the other is on the other side of Black Rock and is a timeshare resort -- the latter is very nice, but I would think because its condos, it would be more family oriented.

jamie99 Oct 7th, 2014 11:18 AM

I'd go with Grand Hyatt Kauai, beautiful resort at that time of year the kiddos should be still in school.
Koa Kea may be over your price range and I'm not a big fan of the place anyway. St. Regis is also probably out of your price range plus many of the rooms do not have lanais which is a big showstopper for me. Plus it is expensive (glass of wine $12!).
Not been to Oahu and been a long time since I was last on Maui so will let others comment on those hotels.

ChiSue Oct 7th, 2014 11:18 AM

You need to decide on an island, then on the hotel or condo. Some of that may depend on the ease or difficulty of reaching Your Island. Some visitors with at least ten nights want to stay on two of the smaller islands or split a stay on a single island.

What are your options for flights to and from Hawaii? My DH and I have been flying Chicago-Hawaii for decades and have spent often two to four weeks on each of the four major islands. I look for a nonstop on a wide-body aircraft for at least the longest leg.

End of April into May is a less-busy, but very pretty time in Hawaii. Any time mainland schools are in session are generally less busy. One way to avoid children is to avoid lodgings that cater to families -- for instance, those with two and three bedroom condos, Kids' Clubs and 'pool parks'. (Grand Wailea and Honua Kai come to mind.)

Which islands appeal to you -- beyond the lodgings? Virtually all visitors rent cars and DIY tour to sights, beaches, restaurants. (You don't need a car within Honolulu, where you can walk or take a taxi for a non-astounding fare because distances are short.) If you do plan a lot of sightseeing and excursions, consider a small condo while you will be 'off property' most of the time. Some honeymooners save a bit that way, then splurge on a Four Seasons type experience before returning home. This would work with the budget you outline. (With $400/night, you need to strike some of the hotels you listed.)

This site has aerials, reviews and rates for almost every lodging in Hawaii: www.hawaiirevealed.com Get familiar with the maps of the islands, too. (For instance, you might not want to stay up at Kapalua on Maui if you plan to do many trips across the island to Hana, Haleakala, Iao Valley.)

Happy planning!

One other thing: There will still be some whales in the ocean off Maui in April.

beanweb24 Oct 7th, 2014 11:18 AM

If I were to honeymoon on Oahu, I would honestly not stay in Waikiki. I much prefer the North Shore, but Turtle Bay seems a bit too far removed for my preference. We love Haleiwa, so I would probably rent a property for 5 days then maybe go 5 days somewhere else and have a resort experience.

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If you go to Kauai, the Grand Hyatt in Poipu is excellent. Again you could consider staying at a rental, and for that I would look through Parish Kauai. I do love the North Shore and it's a bit of a haul from Poipu, so it would be a great idea to split your time between South and North. Kauai is the best island for doing a helicopter ride, as well.

Not on your list in Maui is the new Andaz. From online impressions, it looks less family oriented than some of the other resorts. But I can let you know after we stay there in about 10 days. :)

The good news is that you can't make a wrong choice!

Patty Oct 7th, 2014 12:32 PM

The Kahala is in a very nice location. Far enough from Waikiki if you like it quiet but close enough to be convenient to Honolulu dining. In Waikiki, Lotus, Hyatt and Trump are not directly on the beach.

All of the islands are family friendly. A few Asian holidays at the end of April/beginning of May will bump up tourist numbers from Japan and China (primarily on Oahu) but otherwise it's an off peak time. Grand Hyatt Kauai also has an extensive pool complex that might attract families.

FaceInTheCrowd Oct 7th, 2014 12:34 PM

Waikiki might not be the best spot for a honeymoon, but you'll have a better chance of your budget aligning with your expectations there. Most of the resorts you've listed on the other islands would be budget busters, I think. Rates at Grand Hyatt in Poipu, for example, start at around $500 for your dates. That includes breakfast, but.... Thinking of breakfast, if the $5,000 includes activites AND meals, you might want to rethink how much you're allowing for accommodations. Dining at resorts is expensive, so you should also consider a condo.

I agree with the suggestion of just one island. Traveling between them wastes about a half a day, and it ain't cheap. But I wouldn't dismiss the Big Island out of hand. Based on what you've said you're looking for, it may be your best choice. Have a look at the Mauna Lani or Fairmont Orchid. I don't think you can do much better.

FaceInTheCrowd Oct 7th, 2014 12:36 PM

Forgot to add that you'd need to budget for a rental car everywhere except Waikiki.

suze Oct 7th, 2014 12:47 PM

Yes to Royal Hawaiian, no to Trump Tower... if you decide to stay in Waikiki.

sf7307 Oct 7th, 2014 01:53 PM

Dining at resorts is expensive, so you should also consider a condo.

I do like a condo when I'm on a beach vacation, but even when I stay at a [hotel] resort, I never eat in resort restaurants (overpriced, and often not as good as what you can find "outside").

sf7307 Oct 7th, 2014 01:54 PM

If you would consider a credit card, the Hyatt Visa will get you two free nights at any Hyatt worldwide. My husband and I each got one, and we got 4 consecutive nights at the Grand Hyatt Kauai.

wekewoody Oct 7th, 2014 04:54 PM

I am not really a hotel person and prefer condos or home rentals, BUT...

I just checked some sample dates in your time frame. and for the hotels you listed the real bargain to me that jumped out is a "deluxe oceanfront" room at the Sheraton Kauai for $325. It has been redone in the last year or so and the oceanfront rooms are literally right on the ocean. The beach there is really nice and it would be a smaller scale, low key and more laid back experience than most of the hotels you have listed, yet still be very accessible to activities and such.

I love the location of the Wailea Marriott. It actually has what I think is the best location of any hotel in Wailea and many of the rooms have fantastic ocean views. It was built originally as a Hilton or an Intercontinental back in the 70s when land was cheaper, hence it is spread out over a large area and has lots of oceanfront nooks and crannies. There is Ulua Beach on one side and Wailea Beach on the other. My search turned up an ocean view room for around $350. That is a good price for a hotel in Wailea.

The prices at at least half of the hotels your listed are going to be well over your stated budget.

TroutmanJ Oct 7th, 2014 05:51 PM

Thanks so much for all of the replies.

Let me address a few things. We want to stay all 10 days in one place. The budget was more of a placeholder, I already priced all of the places I listed and several of them are in the price range that I am looking for (For the dates we will be there). So I would say the best feedback I'm looking for would be more commenting on each of these resorts or other similar suggestions that might be better for couples/honeymoons.

For example, the feedback of some of the places not being right on the beach is important and will likely eliminate a few of these. And comments regarding family centric places on the list are helpful as well.

I think in terms of amenities and activities we aren't looking to do anything to intense (hiking, helicopter rides, zipline) I think it would be more along the lines of tennis, golf, spa, massage, surfing. Mostly though just a beach to enjoy without hearing kids running around. I think that is the baseline. We like and would probably prefer walking to places rather than renting a vehicle. We like going to markets etc. and would enjoy finding good eats on the island.

I think all these things considered Maui and Kauai are the best match but Oahu too? That's at least the feel I am getting.

sf7307 Oct 7th, 2014 06:15 PM

You really can't go anywhere outside the resort or resort development on Kauai or Maui without a car.

wekewoody Oct 7th, 2014 06:41 PM

Why did you decide against the Caribbean? If I were on my honeymoon I would stay at Caneel Bay Resort on St. John. Lots of space to spread out to be virtually alone on several beaches. Scott Beach is adults only. I love it.

My best bet for a honeymoon hotel is on the BI and isn't on your list, so I won't waste your time.

Good luck and congratulations.

Patty Oct 7th, 2014 07:13 PM

Waikiki is really the only place I would stay without a car. Maybe the Kahala if you plan to stay mostly on property and take taxis to/from dinner and rent a car for a day or two. Everywhere else will be an inconvenience.

Were you also considering the Caribbean? If so, there are many more adult only or adult oriented resorts there.

Patty Oct 7th, 2014 07:29 PM

I just read your other thread. If you're foodies, that would also point to Oahu.

Or beach front, non-family centric, good food, walk places... St Barts?

TroutmanJ Oct 8th, 2014 06:00 AM

Ok I have narrowed the list down a little and added 1 or 2. A couple of these are still over the $400 per night (for the days I have priced) but the rest are in my price range. So any specific feedback on any of the following places would be appreciated. That way I might be able to get a better feel for them. For example, I have looked on the Koa Kea website and it doesn't seem like there is much to that place, why does it get such high reviews? Seems like the Turtle Bay Resort has a lot going on, what is the downside to that place? Are any of these geared more towards families than couples? Are any of these on beaches that will be more crowded or less crowded?

St. Regis Princeville
Andaz Maui
Fairmont Kea Lani
Kahala Hotel & Resort
Koa Kea
Sheraton Maui
Honua Kai
Fairmont Orchid
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort
Wailea Beach Marriott
Hilton Hawaiian Village
Turtle Bay Resort
Sheraton Kauai

sf7307 Oct 8th, 2014 06:06 AM

Hilton Hawaiian Village is like a city on the beach. It's all-encompassing, but can be very busy. Although one area (I forget the name of the tower) would be better than the other within the resort, it is not what I would choose for a quiet or secluded beach honeymoon. I would say the HHV and Koe Kea are at the exact opposite ends of the spectrum.

So what is it you want - energetic with lots of people around, or secluded?

Patty Oct 8th, 2014 06:56 AM

HHV doesn't feel honeymoonish to me either (I think it's the Kalia tower that's a bit calmer). You would definitely need a rental car at Turtle Bay.

Your choices are quite different in feel from each other. Do you want to be more isolated (North Shore), in a city (Waikiki), in a resort complex (Wailea)?

Patty Oct 8th, 2014 07:14 AM

Forgot to answer the beach question. Any beach in Waikiki will be very crowded. If you want a quieter beach right at the resort on Oahu, then your choices would be the Kahala or Turtle Bay. On Maui, Wailea feels quieter than Kaanapali to me.

beanweb24 Oct 8th, 2014 07:38 AM

I haven't stayed at Koa Kea, but I had dinner at their restaurant, Red Salt. The hotel seemed nice enough, but I don't think I would want to stay there, especially for a honeymoon. It's a bit of a strange entry (driving through a parking lot to get there) and just doesn't have the "wow" factor that alot of the other hotels on your list have.

The downside to Turtle Bay is that it's pretty remote. We love the North Shore, but I'm very partial to Haleiwa which is 12 miles away. It just feels *too* far away from everything for my personal taste.

I'm leaving on Friday to get married in Maui. We're splitting our stay between Honua Kai and the Andaz. I think Honua Kai is probably great in the off season but I think it would be very overrun with families when school is out. The beach in front of HK will be quieter than the beach in front of the Sheraton. Properties south of Black Rock face a 1 mile paved boardwalk so there is a lot to walk to/do.

I've stayed at the Fairmont Orchid and it is lovely. It didn't feel like a family resort to me. The beaches in the Waikoloa area are really beautiful. But note the Big Island is really big. So even driving from Waikoloa into Kailua Kona will take 30 minutes. I think I might go a little stir crazy in Waikoloa for 10 days.

All beaches in Waikiki will be very crowded as Patty mentioned. I would not want to spend 10 days - at any time - in Waikiki, but that's just my personal taste. I think it's very fun for a couple of nights, but I would do it either upon arrival or before departure and then move to the north shore.

You will not be able to avoid renting a car on any of these islands unless you just want to stay in Waikiki the whole time. Check out rental prices on Discount Hawaii Car Rental. And once you book, keep checking prices. I often book, cancel, and rebook as prices fluctuate.

ChiSue Oct 8th, 2014 08:02 AM

Virtually *everybody* rents a car *everywhere* in Hawaii -- outside of Waikiki. This is one of the United States, not a resort in a third world country where people stay put in a compound. The people staying 'on property' every day at a resort in Hawaii are generally (older) people who have already 'seen the sights' on that island.

This mobility is why there is only one all-inclusive option in Hawaii: Travaasa Hana on Maui. It's also why taxis are so expensive. Everybody has a car. On most islands you can rent a car for a week for little more than it would cost to get to a resort and back to the airport again.

When you see a room rate at a hotel, that's just the beginning. Most hotels have daily resort fees, valet parking fees, charges for a cabana...etc. There are also taxes -- and tips. (Ask about all 'extras' before you book.) It's hugely expensive to dine and drink at a hotel, too.

Ten nights in one place...could get old at some of the more isolated places on your list

ChiSue Oct 8th, 2014 08:31 AM

Whoops! I didn't mean to post that yet.

I like Wailea for you: Andaz is quite new. Fairmont has all suites. Marriott has oceanfront rooms that are almost IN the water. You can walk along the ocean in front of all these places. Shops At Wailea is there, with some options for restaurants. South Maui is a convenient location for touring 'the sights' of the island. It's 45 minutes from Lahaina's Front Street of shops and restaurants. (Lahaina is home to Hawaii's top luau entertainments: Old Lahaina Luau and Feast At Lele. I recommend FAL for couples.)

You can see Turtle Bay in the sophomoric movie "Forgetting Sarah Marshall". I would never spend ten nights there. It's a beautiful location, but there's *nothing* else there, and IMO the hotel is 3-star operation.

St. Regis is a gorgeous, *remote* location, at the top of Kauai. It was built by a Japanese firm; style is more European than Hawaiian. Poipu would be better. (Nice deal wekewoody found for the Sheraton there.)

Honua Kai is enormous, with 600 1-3 BR condos and a 'lazy river' that attracts kids. It's courtyard shape guarantees units where you will see and be seen.

For Big Island, I prefer Mauna Lani to Fairmont.

There's really little point in suggesting anything outside of the Honolulu area for you if you will not rent a car. HHV is a zoo! Royal Hawaiian is historic and lovely, but I'm not sure you can get in there or at the Kahala on your budget.

TroutmanJ Oct 8th, 2014 08:38 AM

Thanks for all the recent feedback. Very interesting about having a vehicle. I had imagined just going to the beach, playing golf or tennis, surfing, etc. all of which can be done on the resort correct? I suppose trying to eat anywhere else would require a vehicle.

Beanweb24 - Thanks very much for the specific feedback and congratulations on the wedding. I am starting to see the idea behind splitting up a trip between 2 different places.

Some of the people that responded endorsed a home rental or condo rental. I imagine that would lower the cost of stay significantly which we could use to spend eating around the islands and on amenities elsewhere, but don't these places attract families with kids?

TroutmanJ Oct 8th, 2014 08:44 AM

ChiSue - Thank you for the specifics! I am starting to see the benefits to a vehicle, I guess initially I just thought I don't want to be driving around all the time on my honeymoon. I would rather stay in a few places and relax, but it sounds like it is a must.

Anyways, the Turtle Bay feedback is what I am looking for (Why do you think it is a 3 star operation btw?).

Royal Hawaiian and Kahala baseline price is within budget but I didn't get the best vibe from their websites. I feel like you said that so many add-on charges tend to increase the cost and these two places seemed to have a lot of them.

You prefer Poipu area? The St. Regis is only going to be doable if I can get a decent discounted rate, but it seems like a wonderful resort. Too European though?

Thanks again

suze Oct 8th, 2014 08:50 AM

<Some of the people that responded endorsed a home rental or condo rental. I imagine that would lower the cost of stay significantly>

Not necessarily. Just depends what kind of hotel and what kind of rental you are comparing!

Patty Oct 8th, 2014 09:02 AM

Not all of the places on your list have golf/tennis/surfable beaches on site. You may want to further narrow it down if those are your interests. Also Hawaii is very much about exploration and seeing different parts of the island. Not that you can't stay at the resort most of the time if that's what you wish to do. I'm not sure that home/condo rentals necessarily attract more families than hotels. I think it depends on the property. In residential (non-resort) areas I would definitely check into the legality of any short term vacation rentals.

beanweb24 Oct 8th, 2014 10:29 AM

>> Thanks for all the recent feedback. Very interesting about having a vehicle. I had imagined just going to the beach, playing golf or tennis, surfing, etc. all of which can be done on the resort correct? I suppose trying to eat anywhere else would require a vehicle.

There won't be a ton of resorts from which you can surf directly in front of. Stand up paddleboard - yes. But when I've had surfing lessons/watched surfers, it has definitely not been from a resort.

I really can't imagine NOT having a car in Hawaii. You will want lazy days on the beach wherever you are staying, but you will absolutely want to get out and explore. If you really do NOT want to drive, then I would 1) stay in Waikiki (which doesn't meet your requirement of less crowded) or frankly 2) go someplace in Mexico/Caribbean where there's less to explore offsite. There's just simply too many wonderful things that you would miss in a 10 day visit if you didn't have your own transport.

For a 10 day trip, I would definitely split my stay. For Maui, you might want to do 3-4 nights in Hana at Travaasa (I've been to the one in Austin and it's pretty fantastic) where you have more downtime/relaxation then move to Wailea or Ka'anapali.

Have you looked at traveler photos on TripAdvisor? I really love using them when planning a trip. I search for the hotel then look at the photos by all users - not the professional ones which look amazing because they've paid to look amazing. You'll get a realistic view of what a real room looks like.

Also take ChiSue's recommendation to look at the aerial resort views on Hawaii Revealed website. These are my favorite travel books as well for Hawaii, though you'll get a lot of folks that are enthusiastically less supportive of them.

wekewoody Oct 8th, 2014 10:48 AM

"I had imagined just going to the beach, playing golf or tennis, surfing, etc. all of which can be done on the resort correct?"

You just described the Mauna Kea on the BI, which would be first choice based on the beach and the level of service. I know...it is not on your list, but maybe it should be.

jamie99 Oct 8th, 2014 11:37 AM

I wouldn't worry overmuch about families. You are going in May when most kids will be in school. Having been in both May and Sep/Oct the few families you will encounter will be babies and toddlers and possibly the occasional older child whose parents pulled them out of school for the trip. You will not have to worry about hearing "Marco! Polo!" around the pool at that time.
Of your choices for Kauai, I'd pick the Sheraton or maybe take a look at the Marriott in Lihue. I used to own a timeshare there and it is nice, beautiful pool, besides the onsite restaurants there are a number you can walk to nearby. The downside is, it is on a bay and not the open ocean, but you can take surfing lessons, SUP, outrigger canoe rides, etc. at Kalapaki beach where it is located.
For car rental, take a look at discounthawaiicarrentals.com

sassy_cat Oct 8th, 2014 05:27 PM

beanweb24,

We were at the Andaz in February. Loved the resort and very few children around even during peak season (Presidents week). It has a great beach for swimming. My daughter enjoyed the SUP and we all took a short trip on the outrigger canoe.
Loved the poolside food and drinks. The breakfast is fabulous.
There's also a separate adult pool near the spa that was very quiet.

Troutman, there is no beach at the Wailea beach Marriott. It is actually between 2 beaches so there's a little extra walking involved. We liked this hotel but the pools aren't heated. Shouldn't be too much of a problem in May but not great during the winter months.

sf7307 Oct 8th, 2014 07:08 PM

You can also take surfing lessons at the beach that fronts the Sheaton and Kiahuna Plantation on Kauai.

TroutmanJ Oct 8th, 2014 07:17 PM

Thanks everyone! I really like what I am hearing and seeing at the Andaz Maui. And regarding the Wailea Marriott with no beach, does that mean its not beachfront or no access?

Are there any of the others on my list that are not beachfront?

Between Kauai and Maui, where can i find good food more easily?

Of the places left on the list, which are on the better beaches? I know we are talking in relative terms but I assume some of these are better beaches than others.

tifa2276 Oct 8th, 2014 07:37 PM

I would vote for the Andaz Maui - it's very modern and luxurious...slightly cheaper than the Four Seasons which is just down the road. The beach is lovely, with dark gold sand that feels like silk. The infinity pools are decadent and the spa is great. I loved the buffet breakfast and Morimoto Maui is also right there. It is expensive but this is Maui so expect all the 4 and 5 stars to have pricey meals. The nice thing about the Andaz is that they include the mini-bar (non alcoholic drinks only) and there is no resort fee, although you do have to pay for mandatory valet parking. My husband and I spent 4 nights there last years after it opened. We loved it. Everything from the service to the free sunscreen by the pool. Read more about it here: http://sulynnchen.com/travelblog/?p=523

p.s. we stayed at the Andaz using free night certificates from the Hyatt Credit Card. My husband and I each got one so we got 4 free nights. We only paid for meals and the spa!

The Marriott is also right next door. I thought it was a very nice resort but I thought it wasn't as service-oriented as I was expecting for the price...I'd rather do the Sheraton in Kaanapali. Even though I prefer South Maui better, I definitely do give the thumbs up to the Sheraton because their location on Kaanapali beach has great snorkeling and their service is friendly and wonderful too.

We also stayed at the Honua Kai right after we stayed at the Andaz, and although it is a beautiful property it was jarring to see so many people and kids after pretty much being secluded at the Andaz (we sometimes felt like the only ones there, but we went in low season) I guess everyone was staying at the Honua Kai! I like the Honua Kai units because they are decorated beautifully and some have very nice views. We faced south in the Hokulani building so we didn't have the noise of the courtyard. I thought it was a nice place to stay for a family or groups. The complexes are large with many units. I'd not do it for a honeymoon unless you are ok with a bit of noise at the pool area and at Dukes, the restaurant on-site.

Another one I'd look at on Maui is the newly renovated Hotel Wailea...it just looks so romantic and chic. It's not on a beach but the beach is not far away.

Oahu is my favorite place for being a foodie. I like to drive around the whole island in search of unique things to eat. With that said, we always rent a car and hate paying for parking in the WAikiki resorts. So we usually rent a condo. I'm sure nice condos can be found, but if it's your honeymoon, I'd look into The Trump Waikiki, Halekulani, Royal Hawaiian, Westin Moana Surfrider, The Modern. Think they provide something a little more interesting and a step up than your regular Hyatt, Marriott, Sheraton, at least in Waikiki. Turtle Bay is closer to the North Shore. I stayed there for 2 days last year in March, and it was wonderful, with great grounds and fabulous views. But to get to restaurants outside property was a bit of a drive, and driving to honolulu/waikiki can be an hour or more. I like to stay a bit more central so I have my pick of food! YOu can always do a split stay if you decide to.

Hope this helps!

Patty Oct 8th, 2014 07:43 PM

The Wailea Marriott sits on rocky waterfront. There is a beach to either side of it. You can look up satellite images of the various resorts you're considering.

beanweb24 Oct 8th, 2014 07:48 PM

sassy_cat - that's great to hear about the Andaz. Sounds perfect! We were originally going to move for only 2 nights, but I changed our reservation to a 3 night mini honeymoon and I'm pretty excited.

Also excited that we're doing Honua Kai first instead of the reverse (especially after tifa's post). We've got 30 guests staying at Honua Kai, so it does seem perfect for groups...then moving to Andaz where we want a little more alone time.

Troutman - Tifa's opinion about preferring Oahu to Maui for a foodie experience is interesting. I don't at all argue with that experience, but MY favorite place for food is Maui. :) If you ask 50 people, you'll probably get 50 different answers...again, no bad decision. In Maui, I love Nick's Fishmarket, Star Noodle, Mala Ocean Tavern (the first in Wailea, the latter in Lahaina area). There are numerous other fabulous places for food. I think Mama's Fish House is only suitable for lunch and is otherwise a terrible rip off (but an institution which is passionately defended by many). But I'd probably still split my time - even in Maui - between west and south shores just to vary things up a bit.

Patty Oct 9th, 2014 07:21 AM

The population of Oahu is much bigger so I think it has a greater variety of food to offer in every category (from holes in the wall to fine dining). I agree about Mama's. You go there for atmosphere.

ChiSue Oct 9th, 2014 07:35 AM

Honolulu has the widest choice of restaurants. Then...Maui. Then...Poipu on Kauai (very little north). Then...Big Island.

Lanai has primarily the two Four Seasons properties, but I see that Larry Ellison -- who now owns almost the whole island -- is closing both for renovations, but I don't know when.

Makena Beach Resort on Maui is another place being converted to high end condos soon. Don't know when it closes for business as a hotel.

Hotel Wailea is up on a hill above the beaches. They ferry guests to the beach. This was a Diamond Resort -- another Japanese investment. I haven't seen what's been done to it recently. Capische? is a lovely restaurant there. (The question mark is part of the name.)

I'm glad to see you understand why visitors rent cars.

I would suggest the condo + hotel route to make your funds go farther. MANY condos are rented to couples. Some condo complexes have quiet hours. At our place they are 10 p.m. to 8 a.m.

Where do you start your journey to Hawaii? How can you most easily get to and from the various islands?

TroutmanJ Oct 9th, 2014 08:15 AM

OK the feedback has been a tremendous help and has given me a good understanding of the area.

Narrowing down my choices, I am trying to make a pros/cons list on some of these to further eliminate places or at least do better apples to apples comparisons.

Island: Kauai

St Regis Princeville
Westin Princeville
Koa Kea
Sheraton Kauai

The two Princeville properties are different clearly in terms of luxury and service, but can anyone speak to the Westin being a good value if I wanted to stay in that area?

Koa Kea and Sheraton Kauai are in the southern part of the island in the Poipu area which some readers have suggested being a preferred area. They look like they are next to each other on the map. From the looks of it Koa Kea doesn't blow me away and it seems like Sheraton Kauai would be a better value. Any thoughts here?

Island: Oahu/Big Island

Kahala
Fairmont Orchid

Kahala seems like the baseline price/room I can afford but there seems to be lots of add on charges but it is probably most convenient in terms of location. Can anyone speak to the quality of the beach on the east part of Oahu away from Waikiki compared to these other beaches?

Fairmont Orchid seems to be a nice place even though I was eliminating the Big Island. I believe on of the commenters mentioned that Fairmond Kea Lani is better however. Would the Fairmont Orchid location on the Big Island be satisfactory in terms of finding good food off the resort? It seems like it would be difficult.


Island: Maui

Andaz Maui
Fairmont Kea Lani
Sheraton Maui

Andaz Maui has been covered, I feel like I have a good grasp of the place.

Any additional comments on the Fairmont Kea Lani or Sheraton Maui?


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