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Lynn412 Dec 1st, 2015 06:22 AM

First Time to California
 
We are just in the beginning planning stages of a trip to California for three couples with teenagers. Tentatively planning to fly into LAX. Nobody in our group has ever been to California. Some of the things on our to do list: Hollywood, L.A., two days at Disneyland, and Santa Monica pier. We originally wanted to rent a large house for all of us, but have been a bit frustrated in what we are finding. We've got suggestions from a few people to search Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, and Santa Monica for houses but have not been very successful. Could anyone with experience and knowledge of those areas help me out or suggest an area to stay? We wanted to stay in the house for the entire week but I'm thinking that would not be the best choice. Any help would be appreciated :) Thanks in advance!

Jean Dec 1st, 2015 07:12 AM

Most of the beach cities have banned short-term (less than a month) rentals. And one location for L.A. plus Disneyland would mean lots of driving, much of it in heavy traffic.

Marriott Residence Inn properties and other apartment-hotels would be an alternative. In Manhattan Beach, look at the Sea View Inn.

http://www.theseaviewinn.com/

mlgb Dec 1st, 2015 08:05 AM

You may do better finding family accommodation near Disneyland. And it's sort of central.

There has been a backlash against AirBnb type rentals, which may be why you are finding it difficult in beach communities.

I would start looking for hotels.

clarkgriswold Dec 1st, 2015 08:20 AM

Go directly from LAX to Disneyland/Anaheim and book there for 3 nights/2 days. Then move to West Hollywood for the rest of your stay, unless it's July Aug Sept when you'll want to be even further west for the lower temps. Short term rentals in Santa Monica are illegal and Huntington/Newport can be 2 hrs in the car to Hollywood.

How big is the group in total? Sounds like 9, minimum?

happytrailstoyou Dec 1st, 2015 09:53 AM

I don't know if it will work for your families, but we once stayed at Marriott's Newport Coastal Villas--just south of Newport Beach. It's a beautiful place, and we booked way ahead for a great AAA rate.

HTtY

Jean Dec 1st, 2015 10:07 AM

There is a new Marriott Residence Inn in the L.A. LIVE section of downtown Los Angeles. All rooms have full kitchens, you can request adjoining accommodations, and there's a pool. From this location, you could use public trans for some of your sightseeing, esp. Hollywood and downtown museums.

http://www.marriott.com/hotels/trave...geles-la-live/

Lynn412 Dec 1st, 2015 10:53 AM

Thank you everyone for your suggestions, I really appreciate it! I wasn't aware that short term beach rentals were banned in a lot of areas, obviously that's why we're not having much success finding a place. I will check out the properties you all suggested.

clarkgriswold, there are 11 in our travel party.

jamie99 Dec 1st, 2015 11:21 AM

I would definitely split your stay with 3 nights in Anaheim and the remainder in the LA area. I would also split up into several hotels or condos (if you can find one with less than a week requirements), as 11 people in one place, might start to get on one another's nerves after awhile, to say nothing of trying to organize everyone (herding cats, anyone?).

Jean Dec 1st, 2015 12:18 PM

Moving a group of 11 people isn't easy. Staying together as you explore Disneyland will be next to impossible. Each family should have their own rental car.

janisj Dec 1st, 2015 01:41 PM

>>Staying together as you explore Disneyland will be next to impossible. Each family should have their own rental car.<<

Absolutely. Get separate cars and several rooms in the same hotels. You really can't do Disneyland/California Adventure as a group. So no need to be in the same unit or even under the same roof.

happytrailstoyou Dec 1st, 2015 03:01 PM

<i>So no need to be in the same unit or even under the same roof.</I>

Unless you are taking the trip for a bonding experience and to enjoy each other's company.

HTtY

janisj Dec 1st, 2015 04:50 PM

>>Unless you are taking the trip for a bonding experience and to enjoy each other's company.<<

Fine - but they aren't going to find a place sleeping 11 close to Disneyland . . . therefore separate units w/i the same complex may be their only option.

mlgb Dec 1st, 2015 05:17 PM

Actually, janisj, they are far more likely to find a large rental house in Anaheim near Disneyland than in the other locations they are asking about (HB, Santa Monica, Newport Beach)/

https://www.flipkey.com/anaheim-vaca...?sleeps-min=10

Christina Dec 5th, 2015 02:39 PM

Even if you could find some house for 11 adults (teens count as adults) in an expensive beach community, it would cost an absolute fortune. Hardly any houses are that big, anyway.

There is actually a 4 BR house in Santa Monica for rent on VRBO, however, have no idea what it costs, but I bet a bundle. http://www.vrbo.com/710126

or this one http://www.vrbo.com/212727

Don't know about the laws, though. It might be more realistic not to target some of the most expensive beach areas in LA (like Santa Monica). Like try El Segundo or something more modest, as well as inland places, that's a good idea. I still don't think there are very many houses that big.

Here's a 5 BR place in El Segundo for only about $740 a night, for example. http://www.vrbo.com/692271

fdecarlo Dec 6th, 2015 12:20 AM

Lynn412, in addition to the above suggestions also check Pacific Palisades and Malibu, e.g.

http://www.vrbo.com/vacation-rentals...ific-palisades

Not all beach towns have banned short-term rentals, and frankly I don't understand how these bans have survived legal challenges. Government does not have the right, regardless of what it might claim, to dictate minimum or maximum rental lengths on private property. So the point is, it doesn't take much searching to find listings that either sidestep the ban or ignore it altogether. If I was a property owner in one of these cities I'd definitely opt for the second of those choices.

sf7307 Dec 6th, 2015 07:49 AM

fdecarlo, one word....zoning.

fdecarlo Dec 6th, 2015 08:55 AM

Have zoning laws always included mandated minimum or maximum lengths of stay for private rental property?

mlgb Dec 6th, 2015 09:15 AM

Zoning has long defined transient lodging (boarding or rooming house), hotel, B&B vs permanent residential, fdecarlo.

clarkgriswold Dec 6th, 2015 09:17 AM

Your right to rent-out your property cannot infringe on your neighbor's right to quiet enjoyment. It's not as if they're banning this practice against the will of the majority of the neighborhood.

But then, this really is not the place for a legal discussion, it's rude to hijack a thread in such a manner.

jamie99 Dec 6th, 2015 11:16 AM

Christina, lovely house but short term rentals of less than 30 days are illegal in Santa Monica, whether it is a house, condo or apartment.
Hope the OP finds something to suit them.


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