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cmt	Feb 19th, 2001 01:56 PM

typing letters of the alphabet with foreign diacritical marks

I looked all over for the thread that had this useful information because I forgot to copy it for myself yesterday. Here it is, for anyone else who might be hunting for it. It is obviously travel-related obviously if you make travel plans in writing in a foreign language. (I take no credit for this good information, except that at least I asked for some of it.) Ä = Alt 142 Å = Alt 143 Æ = Alt 146 â = Alt 131 ä = Alt 132 à = Alt 133 å = Alt 134 á = Alt 160 æ = Alt 145 ç = Alt 135 É = Alt 144 é = Alt 130 ê = Alt 136 ë = Alt 137 è = Alt 138 ƒ = Alt 159 ï = Alt 139 î = Alt 140 ì = Alt 141 í = Alt 161 Ñ = Alt 164 Ö = Alt 153 ô = Alt 147 ö = Alt 148 ò = Alt 149 ó = Alt 162 P = Alt 158 Ü = Alt 154 ü = Alt 129 û = Alt 150 ù = Alt 151 ú = Alt 163 ÿ = Alt 152 ¿ = Alt 167 ¢ = Alt 155 £ = Alt 156 ¥ = Alt 157 º = Alt 166

Ed	Feb 19th, 2001 02:20 PM

For those wanting to write Spanish in other than all upper case, the ñ is Alt-0241 Ed

Susan

Feb 19th, 2001 09:11 PM

Thanks so very much! Just what I've been looking for.

harzer

Feb 20th, 2001 03:51 AM

You forgot the ß for German, which is at ALT 225.

xxx	Feb 20th, 2001 07:36 AM

Anyone out there have the same info for us Mac users?

Tina	Feb 20th, 2001 05:45 PM

Hi! Thanks for the info...my Italian teacher appreciated it as well. I'm not sure how to actually use this, though. I tried typing ALT and then the appro- priate number, but it didn't do anything. Can anyone help me?

cmt	Feb 20th, 2001 06:05 PM

Hi, Tina, I'm so glad you had that problem, too. Here's the solution. Hold down the ALT key and at the same time type the numbers from the numerical key pad on the right side of your computer. Do NOT use the numbers at the top of the keyboard because nothing will happen. (You and I must be the only people who didn't realize that it makes a difference. Rex had to explain it to me.) While you're at it, if you hold down ALT and try some other 3-digit combinations, you may find other symbols, fractions, diacritical marks, etc. that you need, because the list above is not quite complete. If you type in Italian, you'll love this -- can finally distinguish between "is" and "and" and write about cities and youth without having to scribble in the accent grave after everything is printed.

Caitlin

Feb 20th, 2001 08:37 PM

Be sure your number lock is off.

Ryan Scribbs

Feb 21st, 2001 07:03 PM

I was fooling around with the ALT key and the keypad and came up with a smiley face. Don't remember what keys I hit. My five year old loved it. Can anyone help? I was using MSWord.

Yvonne

Feb 22nd, 2001 10:23 AM

I looked in Help and under the index looked for characters then special. I'm on Windows. If you type in :) you'll get a picture of a smiley face. (c) yields a copyright symbol. The smiley amused me, the copyright didn't. Also try :(.

Tina	Feb 22nd, 2001 06:01 PM

Thanks cmt for the help! Unfortunately. I have a laptop. Oh, well. Glad to know I'm not alone!

xxx	Feb 22nd, 2001 06:07 PM

I posted the listing that cmt was so grateful to get. (I think maybe she re-arranged it). Even on a laptop, you probably have a num lock key that converts certain letters on the keyboard to numbers. This is the equivalent of the numeric keypad to the left of a standard keyboard. You can most likely do the Alt-xxx combinations using those keys.

StCIrq

Feb 22nd, 2001 06:26 PM

There's a MUCH easier way to do this. Set your Keyboard Setting to US International. To type accent aigu, hold down the aigu character (under the double quotes) at the same time as you type the letter you want it to go over - e.g.,é For accent grave, do the same with the grave accent character (under the tilde on he far left hand top of the keybard). For umlaut, press Shift and the double quote key and the letter. For cedilla, press shift and the single quote key and the letter. For circonflex, press Shift, than the circonflex (over the number 6), then the letter. For the tilde, press Shift, then the tilde sign (over the accent grave sign), then the leter. It becomes habit after a short while, and is much easier than learning all those codes.

?	Feb 22nd, 2001 06:45 PM

WHERE do you make the keyboard setting adjustment?

?	Feb 22nd, 2001 06:49 PM

Found it, but now I can't simply type apostophe+a, etc.

xxx	Feb 22nd, 2001 06:50 PM

I suppose it's under Settings, Control Panel, Keyboard, Language, Properties I'm not going to mess with it to find out.

top	Feb 22nd, 2001 08:15 PM

to the top

topper

Feb 23rd, 2001 06:40 AM

top

StCirq

Feb 23rd, 2001 11:51 AM

To find the Keyboard settings (in Windows environment) go to your Control Panel, click on Keyboard, set it at US International. The problem you are encountering with the apostrophes (actually, it's the quotation marks)is that you need to hit the space bar now after you hit the single or double quotation mark.

Christina

Feb 23rd, 2001 02:44 PM

This info is right on your computer any time you want to see it, if you have Windows (on a PC). Just look in the "Accessories" section (I have Windows NT, and that is in the "Programs"), and then open "Character Map". It gives you all foreign characters and tells you the keystrokes to produce them, as well as some other special characters. If you put your pointer on the one you want, the keystroke should be denoted in the bottom right hand corner. Instead of typing them, I think you can use this character map directly with copying, pasting, etc, but that is very time consuming. If you cannot remember where they are, just go into the Windows Help button and search for "character map". I will try the US international keyboard tip.

George Holt

Feb 25th, 2001 03:20 AM

For the mac user who was asking, you don't need to know the ascii numbers you can type many characters direct using the control, alt (option) and shift keys in combination. A lot of the characters are sensibly placed for instance ç is alt+c, Ç is alt +shift+c. Some are two pass effects for instance ü is alt +u (nothing appears to happen) then u. Key caps is your friend here, it should be in your apple menu. It shows a diagram of the keyboard and as you press the alt key on the physical keyboard the diagram reflects what all the keys will produce, similarly for other modifiers. Effects (or at least the range of them) vary from font to font and may differ if you use a US keyboard (mine is set to british).

kav	Feb 25th, 2001 04:24 AM

Yvonne The automatic changes you mentioned (smiley and copyright) are part of MS Word, a feature called Autocorrect, and, from memory, only in Word version 97 and onwards, though they can be added by users for earlier versions of Word into the Autocorrect library. So, if you typed (c) directly into the Fodor's post boxes or your email system you would not get the copyright symbol, only if you type into Word first and then copy and paste. (I think). Kav

Yvonne

Feb 25th, 2001 07:58 AM

Kav, I believe you're right and I'm sorry for misleading anyone. I was trying to help the one poster who was entertaining his young child.

Art	Feb 25th, 2001 08:55 AM

Great info. Shows how we can learn. I'm in the IT profession but only use word for documentation. I've much to learn using the standard windows programs. Caitlin, I have to correct you. You must have the num lock on for this to work. Art

Kav	Feb 25th, 2001 09:00 AM

Yvonne, I wasnt meaning to criticise your post, I hope it didnt come across that way, and I certainly dont think you were misleading. I just wanted to offer extra info incase you werent aware this was a Word feature and not something which also happens in other applications. Autocorrect is a good feature, and as an IT trainer I think it just my instinct to try and explain if I can help... K

Art	Feb 25th, 2001 10:45 AM

Is there anyway that you can get smiley in to a fodors post. I can get it in word but when I cut/copy/past it comes over as a J. Thanks Art

lover of the ægean

Mar 2nd, 2001 05:02 AM

alt pressesed at the same time as 145 on numerical pad will give you æ

Rex	Mar 30th, 2001 12:42 PM

I just posted a message in which I needed a lower case ñ (alt+0241) - - and as can be seen there was an omission of this character (fixed by Ed) in the table below (that got constructed from data I posted on another thread). Phew - - what a run-on sentence! Anyhow, the major discovery for me is that this one character really does require the ZERO (i.e., all four digits, 0241). So I got to wondering about other 4 digit combinations: ƒ - 0131 „ - 0132 † - 0134 ‡ - 0135 ˆ - 0136 ‰ - 0137 Š - 0138 ‹ - 0139 Œ - 0140 ‘ - 0145 ’ - 0146 “ - 0147 ” - 0148 • - 0149 ˜ - 0152 ™ - 0153 š - 0154 › - 0155 œ - 0156 Ÿ - 0159 ¡ - 0161 ¢ - 0162 £ - 0163 ¤ - 0164 ¥ - 0165 § - 0167 ¨ - 0168 © - 0169 ª - 0170 « - 0171 ® - 0174 ° - 0176 ± - 0177 ² - 0178 ³ - 0179 ´ - 0180 µ - 0181 ¶ - 0182 · - 0183 ¸ - 0184 ¹ - 0185 º - 0186 » - 0187 ¼ - 0188 ½ - 0189 ¾ - 0190 ¿ - 0191 À - 0192 Á - 0193 Â - 0194 Ã - 0195 Ä - 0196 Å - 0197 Æ - 0198 Ç - 0199 È - 0200 É - 0201 Ê - 0202 Ë - 0203 Ì - 0204 Í - 0205 Î - 0206 Ï - 0207 Ð - 0208 Ñ - 0209 Ò - 0210 Ó - 0211 Ô - 0212 Õ - 0213 Ö - 0214 × - 0215 Ø - 0216 Ù - 0217 Ú - 0218 Û - 0219 Ü - 0220 Ý - 0221 Þ - 0222 ß - 0223 à - 0224 á - 0225 â - 0227 ä - 0228 å - 0229 æ - 0230 ç - 0231 èêëìíîïðñòóôõõö÷øùúûüýþÿ - 0232-0255 (darn, I was hoping I could find those smiley faces that Art wanted!) Rex

Ryan Scripps

Mar 30th, 2001 04:36 PM

Rex: I wrote about the smiley face, and found it on a toolbar (art) in Windows.

kalena

Mar 30th, 2001 07:59 PM

My goodness looking at the complicated instructions above I get to gloät....Windows by day, but MAC at night. Did I say I love my Cube?

k	Mar 30th, 2001 08:00 PM

Or was that glöat?

frank

Mar 31st, 2001 04:06 AM

Smiley (& other) faces are avalable in Word by choosing the wingdings font.

xxx	Nov 23rd, 2001 06:20 AM

Fodors managed to ruin this thread. it had a list of foreign diactrical marks and how to make them.

Bob Brown

Nov 23rd, 2001 07:18 AM

I have had trouble in days past with Fodors forum accepting the foreign letters. In German, ß = alt 225 ä = alt 132 I will post this and see if they "take".

Rex	Nov 23rd, 2001 12:19 PM

Thanks, Bob Brown, for showing that this "ruined" thread can be fixed as good as new (better than the original now, actually) by just re-posting (or at least I hope this will work). Ä = Alt 142 Å = Alt 143 Æ = Alt 146 â = Alt 131 ä = Alt 132 à = Alt 133 å = Alt 134 á = Alt 160 æ = Alt 145 ç = Alt 135 É = Alt 144 é = Alt 130 ê = Alt 136 ë = Alt 137 è = Alt 138 ƒ = Alt 159 ï = Alt 139 î = Alt 140 ì = Alt 141 í = Alt 161 ñ = Alt 164 Ö = Alt 153 ô = Alt 147 ö = Alt 148 ò = Alt 149 ó = Alt 162 Ü = Alt 154 ü = Alt 129 û = Alt 150 ù = Alt 151 ú = Alt 163 ÿ = Alt 152 º = Alt 167 ¢ = Alt 155 £ = Alt 156 ¥ = Alt 157 ª = Alt 166 ƒ - Alt 0131 „ - Alt 0132 † - Alt 0134 ‡ - Alt 0135 ˆ - Alt 0136 ‰ - Alt 0137 Š - Alt 0138 ‹ - Alt 0139 Œ - Alt 0140 ‘ - Alt 0145 ’ - Alt 0146 “ - Alt 0147 ” - Alt 0148 • - Alt 0149 ˜ - Alt 0152 ™ - Alt 0153 š - Alt 0154 › - Alt 0155 œ - Alt 0156 Ÿ - Alt 0159 ¡ - Alt 0161 ¢ - Alt 0162 £ - Alt 0163 ¤ - Alt 0164 ¥ - Alt 0165 § - Alt 0167 ¨ - Alt 0168 © - Alt 0169 ª - Alt 0170 « - Alt 0171 ® - Alt 0174 ° - Alt 0176 ± - Alt 0177 ² - Alt 0178 ³ - Alt 0179 ´ - Alt 0180 µ - Alt 0181 - Alt 0182 · - Alt 0183 ¸ - Alt 0184 ¹ - Alt 0185 º - Alt 0186 » - Alt 0187 ¼ - Alt 0188 ½ - Alt 0189 ¾ - Alt 0190 ¿ - Alt 0191 À - Alt 0192 Á - Alt 0193 Â - Alt 0194 Ã - Alt 0195 Ä - Alt 0196 Å - Alt 0197 Æ - Alt 0198 Ç - Alt 0199 È - Alt 0200 É - Alt 0201 Ê - Alt 0202 Ë - Alt 0203 Ì - Alt 0204 Í - Alt 0205 Î - Alt 0206 Ï - Alt 0207 Ð - Alt 0208 Ñ - Alt 0209 Ò - Alt 0210 Ó - Alt 0211 Ô - Alt 0212 Õ - Alt 0213 Ö - Alt 0214 × - Alt 0215 Ø - Alt 0216 Ù - Alt 0217 Ú - Alt 0218 Û - Alt 0219 Ü - Alt 0220 Ý - Alt 0221 Þ - Alt 0222 ß - Alt 0223 à - Alt 0224 á - Alt 0225 ã - Alt 0227 ä - Alt 0228 å - Alt 0229 æ - Alt 0230 ç - Alt 0231 è - Alt 0232 é - Alt 0233 ê - Alt 0234 ë - Alt 0235 ì - Alt 0236 í - Alt 0237 î - Alt 0238 ï - Alt 0239 ð - Alt 0240 ñ - Alt 0241 ò - Alt 0242 ó - Alt 0243 ô - Alt 0244 õ - Alt 0245 ö - Alt 0246 ÷ - Alt 0247 ø - Alt 0248 ù - Alt 0249 ú - Alt 0250 û - Alt 0251 ü - Alt 0252 ý - Alt 0253 þ - Alt 0254 ÿ - Alt 0255

Rex	Jan 14th, 2002 07:00 PM

topping for Dr. Betty (hi Anne)

Pauline

Jan 15th, 2002 02:15 AM

Rex, thanks for topping. I'm fairly new to this board but for the most, am finding it very interesting & informative. I know this post started almost 12 months ago but will be checking things on my work pc tomorrow and tonight on my home iMac, discovered the following on the main keyboard: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 - = alt ¡ ™ £ ¢ ? § ¶ • ª º – != q w e r t y u i o p [ ] \ alt œ <sum> ´ ® † ¥ ¨ ˆ ø <pi& gt; “ ‘ « a s d f g h j k l ; ' alt å ß ? ƒ © ? ? ? ¬ … æ z x c v b n m , . / alt ? ? ç ? ? ˜ µ <= >= ÷ shift ! @ # $ % ^ & * ( ) _ + shift alt / ? ‹ › fi fl ‡ ° · ‚ — ± shift Q W E R T Y U I O P { } | shift alt Œ „ ´ ‰ <caron> Á ¨ ˆ Ø ? ” ’ » shift A S D F G H J K L : " shift alt Å Í Î Ï ´´ Ó Ô ? Ò Ú Æ shif t Z X C V B N M < > ? shift alt ¸ ? Ç ? ? ˜ Â ¯ <breve> ¿ I did this while in Outlook, so any other Mac users you now know where to find the Euro sign.

Pauline

Jan 15th, 2002 02:39 AM

oops, doesn't translate 'quite' the same on this board. Oh well, have fun experimenting.

Sally

Jan 15th, 2002 05:36 AM

How do you get the Euro sign?

Rex	Jan 15th, 2002 08:23 AM

As far as I know, the euro sign will require new software/font set support. No standard exists for having it appear in existing typefaces, commonly in use over the internet.

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