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Sorry to post on here again but, there is very limited availability of hotels in the 6th arrondissement and the ones I like are around $350 ish range and is that a fair price for a 4 star?, I would like to know if 7th and 8th arrondissements are quite central? I can start exploring there I would like to spend $300/night and stay in preferably a 4 star hotel as I know 5 star would be a little out of my budget We are going to be there for 7 nights the first week of December.

Not sure what you are looking for, but I found this hotel to be absolute perfection! I was there in December, but for Christmas.

https://hotelabbayeparis.com/

>>> stay in preferably a 4 star hotel

Are you familiar with the star rating system in France or are you assuming it is similar to wherever you are coming from?

If you look up differences between these stars, for example at, https://europeupclose.com/article/fr...-rating-system you find it is a facilities rating. If this is what you are looking for, then rely on the star rating. Otherwise, look up exactly what they offer at various hotel sites, and read the ratings at sites such as www.booking.com to find out items outside the star rating system. I have stayed in many boutique hotels in 2 to 4 star ratings. The 2 star hotels I have stayed seemed to often get dinged for not having an elevator, irrelevant issue for us, or not having desk open between midnight - 5am, again not an issue for me. I don't use swimming pool, spa, or a fitness room needed to gain the 4-star rating when I walk easily more than 10 miles a day visiting places rather than staying literally on a treadmill.

Anything in the Arrondissements 1, 3, 4, most of 5, 6 are pretty central, IMO. To me, the 7th is a little more out there.

We enjoyed the Hotel Brighton in the 1st, on the Tuileries. I'm sure others will have recommendations as well.

Have fun!

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4 star and 5 star do not tell you how nice a hotel is. Only the amenities offered per a specific list.

There are 2 star places that are as nice or nicer than some 4 star -- but no restaurant on site or staffed front desk over night.

>> I would like to know if 7th and 8th arrondissements are quite central?<<

Do you have a map of Paris? The most central arr. are 1 through 8. Many people prefer the 4th/5th/6th. I personally wouldn't stay in the 8th or some parts of the 7th.

There is no reason to apologize. You can post here as often as you like, with as many questions as you may have.

About the 7th: I especially like the part of the 7th to the east of Invalides.

I've not stayed in a luxury hotel in Paris, but $350 USD doesn't seem like an unfair price for an upscale/fancy hotel. I just checked the K&K Cayre (nice but maybe not as nice as you're looking for) for the beginning of December, and it's running around $200 USD per night.

The Westin Vendome (where friends stayed recently and loved) is around $320 USD and upscale. It's the Right Bank, but Place Vendome is about as central as one can get in Paris.

I have stayed in the 7th and enjoyed it. It is a big quieter than the 6th but there are some excellent restaurants and nice hotels.

If you really want to stay in the center, I would look for a hotel in the 1st or 2nd arrondissement. If you want to save a bit of money, though, you should look farther out in the higher numbered arrondissements. Paris is very compact and the transportation is excellent -- in any case, you can't walk to everything you would like to see no matter what anybody claims.

>>in any case, you can't walk to everything you would like to see no matter what anybody claims.<<

On a short/first trip one can walk to an awful lot of places that are on the short list of biggies. Staying in say the 1st, the northern parts of the 5th or 6th, or southern part of the 4th and one can walk to Notre Dame, Ste Chapelle, the bateaux mouches, the Louvre, Musée d'Orsay, the Tulleries, Musée de l'Orangerie, the Pantheon, the Pompidou, and tons more.

4 stars are imho often a bad quality price ratio. As explained above 4 stars compared to 3 stars have just more amenities : more room for the breakfast more room in the hall stuff like that.

I usually pay 120 euros a night fir good 3 stars.

Search ´woinparis' ´hotel' in the search field. You'll find several threads on hotels in Paris.
The guy is great. And his recs are spot on.
One of the best posters for paris. No, the best one.

<i>On a short/first trip one can walk to an awful lot of places that are on the short list of biggies.</i>

I would hardly claim that the Pompidou or the Panthéon are on the short list of biggies for first time travelers. However, the Eiffel Tower, the Arc de Triomphe, Champs Elysées and Montmartre often are. People staying in the 6th don't often walk to all of them.

if one is in the 6th and can't walk to the Eiffel Tower -- they may have problems . . .

And -- of course there will be places one cannot walk. But between the walkable sites stretches out on both sides of the Seine and in the 1st/5th/6th, many people only need one or two metro or bus rides most days.

>> Search ´woinparis' ´hotel' in the search field ( *of fodors). You'll find several threads on hotels in Paris. The guy is great. And his recs are spot on.

You may follow this recommendation. The person has probably seen more hotels in Paris than anybody else here has. Anywhere near a metro station is a good location for me, Paris has an excellent public transport system.

Weather in December is quite variable -- it could be almost mild or it could be terrible. No way to know more than about 4 days ahead of time. In the second case, there are not many places to which you will probably want to walk if they are more the 500 meters away.

In my own opinion, winter is absolutely the worst time to want to stay near the Seine, because it is the coldest and dampest part of the city at that time. Living in the 18th and going to work in the 8th, I was often horrified at how much colder it was when I arrived near Alma-Marceau.

I would stay in the 4th or 6th arrondissements, if you are willing to spend that much money.
There are very nice hotels hidden away that are 3 or 4 star hotels in the Marais and the Latin Quarter.

For a first-time vistor to Paris, I would not recommend staying in the double-digit arrondissements. You will find what you're looking for in the single digit arrondissements.

Except maybe an acceptable rate.

Search ´woinparis' ´hotel' in the search field. You'll find several threads on hotels in Paris.
The guy is great. And his recs are spot on.
One of the best posters for paris. No, the best one.>

No Whathello you are the best poster for Paris (after pariswat and kerouac)!

Only a two star but one of my favorites in the 6th, great location:

http://hotelclementparis.com

Only 2 stars ? I agree it is a nice one and well located.

People who only worry about the stars of a hotel are the same ones who think that the more you pay for a restaurant meal, the better it is.

People who rely on hotel stars don't understand the star rating system in France, I think.

I have been staying in hotels in Paris for well over 35 years and have never paid anything close to $300 a night; $150 is a lot for me. But maybe I'm a lot less picky than the OP.

Did WOINPARIS no longer have an account? I was trying to narrow down search by looking at his threads, unfortunately it says the user is not active.

Did WOINPARIS no longer have an account? I was trying to narrow down search by looking at his threads, unfortunately it says the user is not active.>

He is active - it is one and the same and Whathello who keeps changing his screen name for some reason. Under old names has given really great Paris advice as he works in Paris a lot though is a Belgian (but don't hold that against him!)

I found one woinParis hotel thread:

http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...otel-paris.cfm

I think location would be the better topic here - rather than the amount of money and "stars" to be spent.

All you have to do is Google "The 10 Best Hotels in Paris" and you'll find what you're looking for.

PARISWAT is WoinParis is Whathello. He switches to a new name every now and then for whatever reason. He is a veritable Paris hotel encyclopedia as he stays in the city several nights during the week from his home in Belgium and does an on line search for the best last minute hotel deal for those nights. He is amazing as he Velos through Paris in all kinds of weather, knows the city like the back of his hand. His recommendations are completely reliable.

Whathello: trust its okay to "out" you.

Perfectly ok. I changed my name because I didn't want to post too much under one name and thus leave too big a trail.

But Woinparis is dead and now so is Whathello.

Pariswat is still alive for the moment and I may use it in the future but I'm out for now. My last post is on Forum help. Who knows when/ifever Fodors switches to the new platform I may send PM's but right now, as I said, I prefer to read a book than be on a travel forum - whatever travel forum.

I'm always game for a GTG with such nice people as you Travel or FF, or StCirq or Ker or or etc but I've been more than enough here and have said all I had to say and more.

Have fun.

Whathello, wait, wait. Want to meet up again in OCT?

Oh, no! He is gone.

Whathello...we are packing and will be there soon.......you are needed to help plan our next GTG......!!!

Whathello quit the forum. Took down their account completely :-(



<I would like to know if 7th and 8th arrondissements are quite central?>

A map will shows this better than I can explain but the numbering goes in a spiral (like a snail) so any of the lower numbers are reasonably central to city center (the 1st).

WhatGood-bye?

Will be missed. Sorely missed.

Not by those of us who see him regularly. ;-)

Then give him our best, kerouac.

Whathello:
Stop pulling our chain! We enjoy hearing from you. You know you can't stay away!!!
Eve
P.S. The million dollar question is who will you come back as next?
:)

`He takes breaks occasionally and then comes back. Some of us are in touch with him regularly and will know what`s happening.

We had a really nice day and evening here in the Dordogne with yestravel and her husband and my best friend and a neighbor. Just lovely. Nice when Fodorites connect in person during their travels.

I had lunch with some delightful Anyporters from South Africa today and have another lunch planned next week with an Anyporter from England, so I just don't have time for meals with most Fodorites, although I hope to see nukesafe again on his next visit to Paris (then again, he is an Anyporter as well).

I am a lurking Anyporter. Does that count?