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MERVskilton May 30th, 2006 02:11 PM

What is an Auto-Ecole?

Robespierre May 30th, 2006 03:02 PM

Driving school.

MERVskilton May 31st, 2006 06:10 AM

where did you get that story from?

WebMeisterWally May 31st, 2006 07:01 PM

Merv , in Victoria ..out of Melbourne
and you ??

MERVskilton May 31st, 2006 08:47 PM

Victoria too!

WebMeisterWally Jun 2nd, 2006 12:27 AM

I am up near Belgrave in the Dandenong Ranges....

MERVskilton Jun 2nd, 2006 03:31 AM

I'm in the Strzelecki Ranges.. howdy neighbour!

WebMeisterWally Jun 5th, 2006 03:58 PM

howdy Merv...:)

MERVskilton Jun 5th, 2006 10:37 PM

Wally.. do you know The Para Pub?.. The Paradise Hotel in Clematis?

WebMeisterWally Jun 7th, 2006 09:35 PM

Merv, never been there but its about 15 mins away from here ..is that your regular haunt ??

MERVskilton Jun 8th, 2006 09:11 AM

I drink there after my radio show every Mon & Wed.. why don't ya drop in!

WebMeisterWally Jun 9th, 2006 01:32 AM

what's this radio show ?? what station ??

Sue_xx_yy Jun 9th, 2006 02:30 AM

Warning: If you want to enjoy the film just as it is, and you don't enjoy speculating on trust, perception and belief, stop reading here! Spoilers within.....


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I was intrigued to follow up Robes' hypertextbook link, because that was my first thought as I watched the film - just how fast are those dashes on the pavement dividing lines passing the point of reference, and can I guess the speed from using that or possibly the length of the route as an index?

And sure enough, someone did just that - and put up some very nicely done graphs, too.

The thing is, there are different kinds of trust. That the filmmaker makes certain claims doesn't mean he doesn't have integrity - he could have believed his claims himself, but simply have been mistaken. Yet the idea that it could only have been a character flaw that explains errors seems to prevent many people from looking for errors - it's almost as if they find it rude to challenge and verify the facts, as if facts had feelings.

It is, also, possible that people exaggerate or lie or even just enjoy 'fooling' people. So I'm intrigued by what has been said about disclaimers. That there is a disclaimer that no manipulation was used doesn't constitute independent proof that no manipulation was used (consider the source of the disclaimer.) If I tell you it is the absolute truth that my surname is xx_yy, well, maybe it is the case (yeah, right!) but why should anyone accept me or anyone as the purveyor of absolute truth, even and perhaps especially because I insist that people do so?

Finally, studies, even if done correctly, are limited in the scope of what they prove. Even the hypertextbook people had to evaluate the film as presented - their analysis of the film might be correct, but it doesn't prove the film wasn't manipulated.

Again, it's interesting: it's almost as if some people think it's rude, somehow, to look for independent verification of a claim.

(Meanwhile, Carta_pisana, thanks for the link, I enjoyed thinking about the film and the thread.)

MERVskilton Jun 9th, 2006 01:50 PM

Very interesting Sue xx yy...

Your evaluation could apply to absolutely anything in the world.. there is always more to a story and all people should not fully believe everything they read.. and think laterally as to the perspective and angle of the person presenting a subject.. and the big question why and what is their invested interest??..

And now with the invention of the DIY modern day overnight publisher on the internet it is harder to make the distinction between the professionalism of the past which required a bigger dedication to a subject through the commitment of traditional publishing which cost large sums of money but still corruptable by the higher powers with the money.. hence i only fully believe something I read until I see it it with my own eyes in real life.. until then it is all only speculation, opinion and entertainment!

Mucky Jun 9th, 2006 02:11 PM

And all because the lady loves .....Milk Tray....



MERVskilton Jun 11th, 2006 01:44 AM

..chocolates???.. where do Milk Tray Chocolates come into this discussion???

Mucky Jun 11th, 2006 01:52 AM

You obviously don't know the Milk tray commercial here in the UK.

;-)

Muck

Robespierre Jun 11th, 2006 09:29 AM

Instead of telling the poster what s/he doesn't know, why don't you explain it?

Mucky Jun 11th, 2006 10:13 AM

No....

:-)

Muck

WebMeisterWally Jun 11th, 2006 11:21 PM

Did someone mention chocolates???


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