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Lauricelli Dec 30th, 2007 02:35 PM

Macaroons
 
I'm missing those delicious macaroons from Laduree. Where can I order something comparable in the US?

Thanks!

cls2paris Dec 30th, 2007 03:41 PM

I ordered some from www.payard.com
I think it is a NYC bakery. They were for a gift and the person really liked them. FWIW - the spelling is macarons.

I eat one every day whenever I get to Paris. I'm tempted to try making them myself but haven't done it yet.

mclaurie Dec 30th, 2007 03:51 PM

Payard is indeed a NYC bistro/bakery. I LOVE their stuff but have never tried the macarons. Here's the link to them
http://www.payard.com/prodslist8.php

LilRicky Dec 30th, 2007 04:01 PM

I like the ones from Spruengli, in Zurich, but they will not ship them to the USA!

Lauricelli Dec 30th, 2007 04:38 PM

Thank you. I checked out Payard. I saw Dean and Deluca sells the macarons from Payard for $4. more. Good to go to the source.

mai Dec 30th, 2007 04:49 PM

LA Burdick in Boston, MA sells them. The flavors are limited but they're good.

http://www.burdickchocolate.com/

Graziella5b Dec 30th, 2007 05:36 PM

You touched a cord ....there is nothing like homemade macaroons. I do them often, it is really easy, the matter in fact for the holidays I often give them to friends, my doctor, etc.

sightseer Dec 30th, 2007 05:48 PM

Hi Graziella5b - Any chance that you'd be willing to share your recipe? I really enjoy the ones at Laduree and would love to try making them at home. Thanks!

Underhill Dec 30th, 2007 06:15 PM

Macaroons are the ones with coconut, yes?

enroute Dec 30th, 2007 07:27 PM

LilRicky,

Have you tried this site?

http://www.spruengli.ch/?lang=en&par...00073803342848

I almost ordered from them once. I actually ended up corresponding with a salesperson ready to accommodate, but I changed my mind after I saw the shipping charge (about twice the price of the chocolates as I remember).

I absolutely loved the Spruengli chocolates my husband brought for me from Zurich. It was recommended to him by the natives as the best in town, but as I said, the total price didn't seem worth it to me for an encore.

enroute Dec 30th, 2007 07:32 PM

Lauricelli,

I can certainly appreciate the feeling. Did you like Pierre Herme as much or perhaps better, if you tried?

-e

tara3056 Dec 30th, 2007 07:51 PM

I've made them myself before, but they are a little tricky. The can be frustratingly delicate and if you over-fold, you end up with flat, hard discs, but if you under-fold, you end up with poofy meringue cakes that rise way too much. And getting the "frilly feet" to turn out right is important too. All that said, it's well worth taking the time to learn how to make them if you really love them, and people definitely appreciate getting them as gifts! Take a peek here for some good tips:

http://www.davidlebovitz.com/archive..._chocolat.html

nickn Dec 30th, 2007 08:43 PM

I have not found anything comparable to the ones from Laduree.

I have ordered some from Payard only because the Paris bakeries I have looked up don't ship them abroad (not even outside the Paris metropolitan area.)

I have also tried ones from Miette at the San Francisco Ferry Terminal. I don't think they ship their products:

http://www.miette.com/product_stories.html#macs

nukesafe Dec 30th, 2007 10:37 PM

I would be suspicious about getting macarons via mail. I have read that Laduree will not ship them because they only will stay fresh for three or four days, max.

We'll just have to get to Paris again real soon!

:-)

Graziella5b Dec 30th, 2007 10:55 PM

Hi sightseer, this is the recipe,

Easy to make, very easy,

1 3/4 cup ground almonds ( I buy sliced almonds and then ground them in the machine.)

1 1/3 cup sugar

3 eggs whites ( I use good organic eggs)

Pinch of salt

1 teaspoon almond extract

Powder sugar


--------------------------------
Combine ground almonds + half of the sugar

Beat eggs whites + salt till stiff

Continue beating ( with electric beater of course)

Gradually sprinkling remaining sugar till mixture becomes firm and gleams. Add almond extract.

Stop using machine.

Add almond sugar mix.
Mix with a spatula .

Line two baking sheet with parchment paper.

Spoon walnut size ( or a little larger) balls on paper

leaving sufficient space between each one.

Dust generously with powdered sugar. Using a wire colander.

Here comes the part that is necessary but I understand some people might say NO,

allow to dry 3 hours at room temperature.

After three hours place in oven pre heated F 300
For some 30 minutes. They should only become very
very light brown during this time.
Inmediately remove from paper, put in serving dish and sprinkle AGAIN generously with powder sugar.

They are really delicious, I read someplace that they were iniatilly created by nuns in the XVIII century. As you see no flour, they are light and for me delicious. They also can be done with children I did them with my grandaugher Francesca who is nine and she was delighted. You cannot go wrong. The three hours are a must ...sorry about that. Happy New Year.

I do not know about coconut, these are Italian Macaroons as far as I know.










caroline_edinburgh Dec 31st, 2007 12:40 AM

"Macaroons are the ones with coconut, yes?"

In Sctland, yes - plus mashed potato, believe it or not...:-)

ekscrunchy Dec 31st, 2007 03:01 AM

Here:



http://www.lepicerie.com/catalog/cat...FQ6fHgodtXauPA

Graziella5b Dec 31st, 2007 04:06 AM

WOW,escrunchy if 48 macaroons are $65 dollars, how much would be the home made...?

I can assure you that the home made ones are much better too. Great news, I feel great having given them as presents. Happy New Year.

gradyghost Dec 31st, 2007 04:18 AM

We became familiar with the macaroons made in St. Emilion during a visit. Here is a note from France magazine on the topic:

SAINT-ÉMILION Macaroons have been a specialty in Saint-Emilion since the 17th century, when nuns in a local convent began making them from almonds imported from Italy. Today you can buy macarons at a number of shops, but Mme Blanchez’s are the best. She toasts and grinds her own almonds and has that artisanal touch that makes all the difference. 9 rue Guadet; Tel. 33/5-57-24-72-33.

Gradyghost

ekscrunchy Dec 31st, 2007 04:19 AM

Happy New Year, Graziella and everyone else here! The recipients of those home made macaroons are very fortunate indeed! The macaroons from MadMac that I linked above look like mini macaroons...I have not tasted them but have heard that they are excellent. We have a few other bakeries in NYC that make them (Patisserie Madeleine in Chelsea, Bouchon Bakery but I do not know if these do mail order...)

You (the OP, I mean) could also try the Fauchon macaroons (note spelling!) from Neiman Marcus:




As for me, I am trying to find a place for myself on Graziella's gift list!!

Graziella5b Dec 31st, 2007 05:40 AM

That was very sweet ekscrunchy ! who knows...happy NEw Year to you, good traveling. Let us all pray for Europe.

Lauricelli Dec 31st, 2007 09:23 AM

Wow, I went away for the evening and look what happened : )

I am actually venturing out today to a French bakery I saw reviewed as having amazing macaroons. We shall see.

I have not tried Pierre Herme but I am certainly not against it.

The coconut macaroons are different that the French style, of course, I am not against those either.

I will have to try that recipe. I just like the eating much more than the making....Maybe I could be your new friend?

Wish that darn Euro would come down or of course the dollar up

tcreath Dec 31st, 2007 09:32 AM

Mmmm...I love the macarons from Laduree. My favorite is Rose. I don't think I would buy them even if they could be shipped though...I tried to bring several boxes of Laduree macarons home with us a few years back and they completely dried out and were dissapointing to say the least.

I was wondering about the ones from Dean & Deluca, so I appreciate the reviews.

Tracy

ekscrunchy Dec 31st, 2007 09:46 AM

In NYC, Patisserie Madeleine, 128 West 23rd Street is getting lots of praise...If you try these, please let us know...I will have to get over there someday soon..

Graziella5b Dec 31st, 2007 11:02 AM

Gosh ¡¡ I know no one is interest in the recipe, but I checked it and there is a mistake, ONLY 20 minutes at the oven, and it should be set 250 to 300F.
Actually the oven is mostly to dry them than bake them if this makes any sense to you, they come out very good.
Crisp on the outside and lightly dried in the inside.
good luck

111op Dec 31st, 2007 12:57 PM

La Maison du Chocolat also makes macarons, and they are very good. The flavors are limited, but I'm guessing that they'd be better than Payard (not that I've tried Payard recently).

Actually I've eaten 3 big ones in 24 hours (two vanilla and one chocolate).

The more I buy stuff from them, the more I realize that their stuff is of consistently of high quality.


ekscrunchy Dec 31st, 2007 01:23 PM

I thought Maison shipped them to the US but I did not see that listed on their site..anyway, I think we can agree that having them shipped from Paris is kind of silly..

111op Dec 31st, 2007 01:52 PM

I don't see any macarons on their website:

http://www.lamaisonduchocolat.com/co...US/Collections

I've arranged for them to ship chocolates though, but I don't know if the shipping extends to macarons. You can always call them if interested. They have two stores in NYC, one in Rockefeller Center and one near 78th and Madison (I forget the exact cross street).

In other words, no, they wouldn't ship from Paris. They do ship certain stuff within US.

ekscrunchy Dec 31st, 2007 02:21 PM

But I thought that all of their products were made in Paris. Years ago I asked them about chocolates and was told that they receive shipments once or twice a week as seems to be the case with other upscale chocolatiers in the city. .So it would pay to inquire as to which days those are and buy accordingly for optimum freshness.
If they are shipping within the US, the items must have originated in Paris unless they are now crafting in the US now.

suze Dec 31st, 2007 03:05 PM

I have an excellent French bakery in my home city (Seattle). They have them (and no they are not the coconut type).


thebestpuppeteer Dec 31st, 2007 06:13 PM

Macaroons are a mainstay for the Jewish holiday of Passover since they are made without flour. Most bakeries in any Jewish neighborhood will have them.

Intex Dec 31st, 2007 07:07 PM

I also prefer ther ones from Pierre
Herme, I had the last one from a huge box yesterday- a Xmas gift from my daughter in Paris. I dont know how my cholesterol is going to like it now, but my stomach wasn't at all dis-pleased.

The colors were amazing too.

writerchicknyc Dec 31st, 2007 08:52 PM

Check local French bakeries. I have seen them at several in NYC.

PatrickLondon Jan 1st, 2008 02:29 AM

Macaroons and macarons are rather different:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaron
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macaroon

ekscrunchy Jan 1st, 2008 04:25 AM

Yes they are different. In English, both are written "macaroon." The correct spelling, when writing about both pastries in English, is "macaroon." To distinguish between the two, some publications refer to one as a "French macaroon" and the other as a coconut or a "Passover macaroon." Wikipedia is not the best reference for matters of writing style.

111op Jan 1st, 2008 05:20 AM

Yes, indeed I think that the stuff from Maison comes from Paris. I believe the cakes are "finished" in the US. I'm not sure what that means though.

I asked them at one point as well. I attended a chocolate tasting class with them and I think this was something that was mentioned, and I asked them some follow-up questions out of curiosity.

I don't think that I'd worry too much about freshness. If they can't ship the macarons to you and ensure their quality, I doubt that they would ship them in the first place. It's easiest just to call them and ask (or visit if you are in NYC). I don't think they are the sort of shop to want to make a buck.

I've never found anything I can complain about when I've bought from them. Actually we just finished one of their latest creations -- a New Year's cake with champagne and raspberry cream (I think). It sounds better than it tasted, but again, the quality is much better than anything else one can really get locally.

ekscrunchy Jan 1st, 2008 05:24 AM

Thanks, 111op..good information. Whose chocolates do you like the best in NYC?

111op Jan 1st, 2008 06:16 AM

I stick to La Maison du Chocolat because I think their markup is reasonable compared to Paris prices.

About two weeks ago, out of curiosity I worked out prices for a 400g box of chocolates (i.e. about 0.88 pound) was about $76 in the US vs. $58 in Paris. It's about a 1/3 markup.

When I'm in Paris, I buy chocolates from Pierre Marcolini (they also have a store in NYC on Park Avenue) because I think that I save much more in Paris. Marcolini's chocolates are cheapest in Belgium. I believe the Paris prices are about 2x more (for a 250g box, say).

I've never really been too tempted to try Neuhaus or Teuscher or Leonidas. I probably have had some of these at one point or another though.

A long time ago I tried Marie Belle (in SoHo). Also I know there's Vosges (I've never tried). And Payard also makes chocolates, which I think I've tried. I just tried some Jacques Torres chocolates at the office recently, and I did like them.

I guess objectively I can't say that I've tried a lot, but I don't see much of a need to try other brands given the quality of chocolates from La Maison du Chocolat. I feel that it's "good value" (if I dare say so), and usually when I like something, I just stick to it.

Do you have a favorite, eks?

Aside: Speaking of good value, it could be interesting for people to look up Noka chocolates (do a Google search) and read a detailed critique about them about one year ago.

ekscrunchy Jan 1st, 2008 06:25 AM

111op: I don't buy them often enough here in NY to have a knowledgeable opinion. A month ago I was in Marcolini's Park Avenue shop looking at assortments for a gift. The salesperson told me that they get their shipments once or twice a week and that they had already had the first shipment 4 days ago. Hearing that I figured that it would be silly to buy them that day since they might be past their prime..perhaps they would have been just fine. But at those prices!! I ended up at Michel Cluizel in ABC. Their prices seemed to be a bit gentler..

At the chocolate show I was impressed by a chocolatier working upstate..Olivier-something. But I lost his card..he was in an upstate county (Putnam??) and I think he taught at the CIA...



111op Jan 1st, 2008 06:36 AM

I've tried Cluizel as well (both here and in Paris), but I think La Maison du Chocolat is better.

As I mentioned, I'd not buy large quantities of chocolates from Marcolini in NYC because I think the markup is pretty atrocious. I can find something that's similar quality elsewhere (like Maison) for cheaper (maybe 50%-70% the price?).

In Paris, Jean Paul Hevin is also a possibility. But there's no store in NYC or in the US (that I know of). They are also excellent.

Now that I'm writing this, I'm reminded of Richart. In NYC, their store is on 55th near the St. Regis hotel, if I remember right. Their chocolates are extremely beautiful. They are presented as if you're buying jewelry or something like that. If you like presentation, that's great. But I don't find the chocolates especially noteworthy, having tried them a few times.

I've never been to the chocolate show. I don't know that chocolatier you mentioned. Well, I guess there's more for me to learn. :-)


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