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Huge UFO Sightings in England
LOWESTOFT -- As an amateur astronomer, I'm quite used to looking up and noticed a bright star through the cloud cover on July 28, 2007. The cloud moved on revealing a clear sky and it still looked like bright moving star. I immediately revised my opinion of it to be a satellite. Then it stopped... After five minutes had past however (the time it took me to smoke another cigarette) it didn't move. It began to move again, this time at a slower pace. I noticed two stars above it that were quite dim in comparison and formed the shape of a triangle alongside the bright star. All the stars moved with it and I realized that it was a triangle that continued to move about for a further 30 minutes.
As my eyes adjusted to the light, I thought I could make out edges that joined the three stars. It appeared to be a black triangle shape. As it continued to move erratically for the next hour at about 500 feet up and was directly over marshland and the broads. I'd spent the day at the town's annual seafront air festival seeing a variety of planes flying over the sea gave me a good yard stick for altitude. At one point, cats started to scream and dogs began to howl. I've never heard such a chorus before and I felt a bit scared at this point. As suddenly as it had began, the chorus stopped and I was back to staring at this enigma again in complete silence. I had been watching it for one hour and 45 minutes and was utterly convinced that what I was witnessing was something extraordinary. It was then that the ball of light appeared from slightly below it. This was a real 'bloody hell!' moment and I was utterly mesmerized by it's luminance and size. Bright like a flare, it seemed to be white in the middle, but orange around the edges and it moved very steadily down from the triangle and began to move directly overhead. At this point I freaked out and rushed into the living room to get my camera and it was directly overhead, the shape of a jelly bean. Unfortunately, my digital camera is a relatively cheap model and by the time it had fired up, the object had moved quite a distance. The triangle was no longer there, just an orange ball for another twenty minutes during which it seemed to ascend very slowly. After 30 minutes, a cloud obscured the ball of light. I have included the picture I took with the flash on as I staggered out of the house. Thanks to MUFON CMS Liverpool – Ed Casson reports, “On the sunny afternoon of July 25, 2007, Lee Jones of Anfield looked up from the back garden of his home and saw something which terrified and mesmerized him.” An enormous saucer-shaped craft emerged slowly from the cumulus clouds and hung in the sky as in the illustration above. The UFO was so large, a passing commercial airliner was dwarfed against it, leading Lee to estimate the unidentified craft’s size as over a mile in diameter. He ran in and fetched his wife and mother-in-law, and they too saw the gigantic circular craft – the color of ‘grey gun-metal’ – hanging in the summer sky as clouds drifted over its surface, obscuring the mysterious visitor. After about fifteen minutes of peeping out from the clouds, the UFO was nowhere to be seen. Had something its size taken off at high speed, a sonic bang would have rocked Merseyside, but no such boom was reported. Lee’s account is just one of many reports I have received, describing what might be the same gargantuan UFO. Earlier this year in January, a Mr Fraser of Childwall was taking a nightly stroll down when he noticed several lights in the sky. Mr Fraser quickly realized these pinpoints of light were on some darker circular object of an enormous size. The huge disc-shaped UFO moved slowly from the direction of Halewood across the sky Throughout June, this same colossal UFO seems to have been seen by people in the Dingle, Aigburth, Grassendale and Hunt’s Cross, at night. A retired local policeman named Colin and an aviation expert from Runcorn named Greg have joined forces to get to the bottom of the giant UFO sightings, and initially believed the reports were misidentifications of the planet Venus, or aircraft lights, but now they accept that these explanations do not pan out. |
Let me clear up - it's not me that writing this - comes from a major UFO source Filer's Files.
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They're seeing UFOs in Liverpool, are they?
We used to put it down to Bent's. Now it's probably Kwiksave doing a closing down sale on Tartan Special. Either way, amazing how many sightings happen just after chucking-out time. |
After the chicken embryo fiasco, you think they'd be keeping a low profile.
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Lotta strange stuff happening in England . . .
http://abcnews.go.com/International/story?id=3385413 :-) (just thought this was funny - my apologies to pagans who find it offensive). |
Jolie, no apologies - I'm pagan and thought it was hilarious! Some of us DO have a sense of humo(u)r :)
I still think it should have been a game of ring toss :) |
i think the Homer thing must be a Rupert Murdoch plot - Simpsons of course being a Fox Network hit and new movie coming out.
murdoch - he's BAD news! but yes thanks for the chuckle |
Hi to another person who reads Filers files.
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Well i'm about the most sceptic DEBUNKER around but i have a friend who is a true true believer who inundates my e-mail with George Filer's Files and i skim it just to see what's 'up' so to say in UFO circles but i'm a total debunker - there are UFOs and that's what they are: Unidentified Flying Objects that have a natural cause that is not detected.
My friend even had a big article in a UK UFO Magazine last year or so - in the final issue as the magazine soon folded. UK seems to be a hotbed of UFO interest - still remember the B&B owner in Glastonbury (itself a hotbed of New Age folks) who went on and on about the UFOs he had seen. Think he had been abducted as well. |
Well- there's a guy who lives somewhere down the block from me who wears a colander on his head because it prevents messages being sent from UFOs from getting through. (He apparently sees them frequently - is often mumbling about it.) It sounds like he should be contributing to that UFO web site. (Although the people at Bellevue seem to think he has a different problem.)
And I don;t want people to think I have a closed mind. It seems given the number of planets, stars and galaxies that it would be hubris to assume we are the only intelligent life in the universe. I'm just not really sure that whatever intelligent life there is would want to spend all that time watching us. Of - perhaps what they saw were Saddam's missing weapons of mass destruction? |
"Well- there's a guy who lives somewhere down the block from me who wears a colander on his head because it prevents messages being sent from UFOs from getting through."
Let me guess -- you live in Idaho, and the guy down the block is named jaane???? |
Oh Patrick :-d
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<After five minutes had past however (the time it took me to smoke another cigarette) it didn't move. It began to move again>
the 'amateur astonomer' in the OP said the above it makes me wonder what kind of 'cigarette' he smoked... and then it began to move again? |
It must be the same UFO that has been around since 1947. I will believe it when it lands in the center of any city. ((*))
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Has anyone seen any unusual objects around Birmingham, England lately? I've actually seen three objects that were flying in an upside down V shape (but not close together) and did not appear to be planes or helicopters. Anyone seen something similar? They looked round or oblong and silver.
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nytraveler:
perhaps your neighbor could use aluminum foil instead of the colander. I think it would probably do the same thing....and it can be molded into different shapes, just to make it interesting. |
loopygirl: hard to tell if yours in a serious post - not saying no but who knows you may be having fun.
But if so were there other reports in media in Birmingham? Did you report that to anyone? The danger of that is being called a kook. |
Aha! We're in UFO territory - a bit of an obsession of mine. (I am re-lining my tin-foil hat as I type).
As it happens the sightings of UFOs off the Eastern Coast of England have been happening for years and do in fact have a perfectly logical reason - it's them damn yankees up to no good again. In the 80's there were loads of sightings of triangular objects moving silently in the night sky - guess what they were? The Iraqis soon found out. The USAAF use Eastern England as a testing ground as it's where the best radar arrays in Europe (and probably the world) are - if stealth technology can penetrate that array then it's good to go anywhere in the world. So what's this new thing they're seeing? If i told you i'd have to kill you (possibly by boring you to death) , but if you google project Aurora you'll see what them crazy ham shanks are up to these days (and also why Nasa pays $10,000 for a hammer). Audere -unlikely Lone Gunman, but there you go. |
audere: are you an alien plant?
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What is the best fare on UFO from BOS-LHR, what is their record on losing luggage, and what is the seat pitch in economy. I'll book the first passage if they can beat the major airlines!
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My one-armed friend who sent me the OP replies to my comment about UFOs having to be natural causes:
"So UFO's are from "natural causes" but we "haven't detected" yet what it is? Come on here! When a craft is seen landing, and little guys scamper out of the vehicle, pick up soil samples, then quickly depart leaving imprints in the soil----you're calling this a 'NATURAL CAUSE"? This is a LANDING TRACE case and there are over 4,000 cases on record. The NATURAL CAUSE in the above case is not something that we "haven't detected." Rather it's most likely a visit by beings that come from another star system. Will be forwarding your comments to UFO followers around the world---we like a good belly laugh from time to time." |
Bob, are all your mates mentalists?
Ask your pal the following: Does he think Einstein was right with E=MC2? If so can he explain why these UFOs are spending decades to get here and then hiding (not very well as they are seen, usually by inbreeds on deserted farms). It would be like paddling to Australia and hiding up a tree. Can he explain why the "Grey" type alien is a realtively recent phenomenon - previously aliens were described in all sorts of ways, now it's just the greys. Can he explain why aliens seem to be obsessed with sticking things up people's bums? Does he think it's a coincidence that most "flaps" happen in areas of military activity (Rosewell was the air force base of the squadron that dropped the A Bomb on Japan - not a lot of people know that) It would be nice for there to be aliens - but we are, effectively, alone. Unless Einstein seriously screwed up his sums. |
I saw a big ball of light in an evening sky as a teenager(no not the sun going down!). I don't believe in UFOs though. I wanted to go nearer to try and find out what it was but my friends were scared and wouldn't let me. They'd seen it on previous evenings and told me about but I'd thought they were pulling my leg. I still wonder what it actually was. They were convinced it was a UFO - I'm more sceptical!
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Palen, I wouldn't have bothered with writing anything on here just for the fun of it.. my time is more valuable than that! I simply asked because it is what I saw! No there were no reportings of it from anyone else via media, I just wondered what it was! It did not look like a plane or helicopter and there were three in the air, not directly by one another but in an upside down V shape flying one after the other. They were round to oblong from what I could tell. It was just a strange sighting that I saw and wondered if anyone else had seen something similar from this area and could explain it.
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The usual explaination for sightings like yours is weather balloons or lenticular clouds (which can travel quite quiockly)
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loopygrl - my apolgies but, not knowing you, it would not be surprising for someone to fool around with this topic - indeed i may have on a similar post.
I do believe you saw what you saw and many folks who are not UFO 'nuts' report seeing similar unexplained phenomena, which i sincerely believe must be due to nature phenonmenon. If there were UFOs capable of coming such a long distance - like audere's public school calculations show (and i don't believe they're hiding in Mars!) they would have little reason to be so cloak and dagger at least for so long. Indeed their technology would be so advanced they could just announce their presence, say 'take me to your leader' (Wow - W in the U.S. - they'd think we're Neandrathals!) and say if anyone messes with us we'll blow your planet up in a flash. They have no reason to hide. Like audere says weather balloons have been reported to imitate weird movements i don't know what you saw - it was a UFO but not an aline craft IMO |
It would be nice for there to be aliens
No it bloomin' well wouldn't. Why does everyone assume that they would come in peace? It's likely that they would be more advanced technically and they might be in search of a nice little green planet to colonise. Look what happened to the North American Indians, the Incas, the Australian aborigines. I think that we should keep a low profile and not draw attention to ourselves. |
You can get strange visual effects purely from the way sunlight reflects off aircraft, depending on the relative angles.
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We have been announcing our existence since about 1910 - and those radio waves would now be 95 light years away now.
But it's all moot in any case - if you can't travel faster than the speed of light then there's no interplanetary contact possible. |
audere - you're talking universe and as my one-arm friend says 'i'm talking multiverse'
figure that humble-jumble out to explain how that could be done gotta think outside the box! |
I know what he means - your hard core UFO nutter always tries to counter the E=MC2 problem by saying that the UFOs are from another dimension.
That doesn't work either as they'd never find their way home. |
Since we only just emerged from caves a (relatively) short time ago, I don't think we're in a position to state categorically that "Einstein seriously screwed up his sums." If we've learned anything in the past two hundred years or so, it's that we don't know anything.
I firmly believe that intelligent civilizations exist elsewhere in the universe, that some of them are capable of transcending the speed of light, and that they can visit us any time they choose without detection. I also do not deny that there are many nutters on this planet. I think it's likely that <b>E=MC²</b> expresses only a <i>glimpse</i> of the relationship between matter, energy, and time. "It is my supposition that the Universe in not only queerer than we imagine, but is queerer than we <u>can</u> imagine." - J.B.S. Haldane, 20th-century English biologist and visionary |
From:"Harry Willnus" <[email protected]>
[Add to Address Book] To:<[email protected]> Subject:RE: Q for Dr Date:Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:16:31 PM Dr UFO's Answer to Audere est Facere's Q Audere: Here are a few answers. First---Bob (palenque) doesn't provide you with a clear picture. I am a ufologist --that is I research & study the UFO phenomenon & I've been doing that for nearly 55 years. I've worked with a number of UFO organizations including Dr. Allen Hynek's Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS). I've investigated numerous UFO events over the years. Bob mentioned an article I wrote for a European magazine. That magazine was UFO MAGAZINE (UK) but it is no longer published. My article was titled "Swamp Gas Revisited"and was built around a previously unpublished police report re: this case, one of the most well known in UFO history. Now, I've known Bob for years & I love him & wish him the best. But know this---- Bob is a DEBUNKER---he subscribes to the following: 1. DON'T BOTHER ME WITH THE FACTS, MY MIND IS MADE UP; 2. IF YOU CAN'T ATTACK THE DATA, ATTACK THE PERSON OR PEOPLE; (Bob often does this) 3. DO YOUR RESEARCH BY PROCLAMATION, NO INVESTIGATION REQUIRED. Bob knows very little about even the most well known UFO cases: Travis Walton, Barney & Betty Hill, Linda Cortelle, the Pascagoula, Mississippi case. He simply writes them ALL OFF! Bob PROCLAIMS! He'll never investigate--it's too much trouble. So that's where it's at when we get Bob's perspective. A FEW BRIEF ANSWERS: It is probably possible to travel in excess of light speed. Wormholes seem very likely. UFO's may well be be able to manipulate space & time. Getting here--what about bases in space---we had aircraft carriers in WW II which carried smaller craft. Inbreeds only seeing UFOs? Come on--get informed. 7 % of the US population has seen a UFO--that 21,000,000 people. Two US Presidents have seen UFOs (Carter & Reagan). UFOs are seen in EVERY COUNTRY in the world. Dr. Hynek estimated 100 UFOs are seen daily around the world. Hiding? They are here for THEIR purposes--we can't be sure what that may be. They go about their business & sometimes they are seen. Please Google: DISCLOSURE PROJECT FOR INFO on who wants to tell the story. Grey's seem to be doing the inter-breeding that you may have head about. They seem to be creating a hybrid--half them, half us. They often plant tiny "tracking devices" on individuals. Some of these have been recovered via surgery. See the work of Dr. Roger Lier for info. However, there are probably 15, 18, or 20 or more different kinds of aliens visiting earth. Some look similar to humans but others are reported looking like prehistoric creatures that roamed earth eons ago. That's it for now--I've got to rush out to investigate another UFO report. Keep your eyes to the skies. More later----???? DR. HARRY (PalenQ editorial note - Dr Harry is using the term Dr erroneously as according to academic Hoyle only folks with Ph Ds and Medical doctors are allowed to use the prefix 'Dr' without a following qualification My one-arm friend Harry (by the way he lost him arm when he was an American emissary to an international dis-arm-anent conference, he says) is a Dr but an EdS - Educationi Specialist and must use that term when refering to himself as "Dr" - Dr. Harry Wellness, EdS Full disclosure because using the term Dr may imply a status not deserved - especially with the flukey EdS -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 1:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Q for Dr Author: audere_est_facere Date: 08/14/2007, 11:39 am Bob, are all your mates mentalists? Ask your pal the following: Does he think Einstein was right with E=MC2? If so can he explain why these UFOs are spending decades to get here and then hiding (not very well as they are seen, usually by inbreeds on deserted farms). It would be like paddling to Australia and hiding up a tree. Can he explain why the "Grey" type alien is a realtively recent phenomenon - previously aliens were described in all sorts of ways, now it's just the greys. Can he explain why aliens seem to be obsessed with sticking things up people's bums? Does he think it's a coincidence that most "flaps" happen in areas of military activity (Rosewell was the air force base of the squadron that dropped the A Bomb on Japan - not a lot of people know that) It would be nice for there to be aliens - but we are, effectively, alone. Unless Einstein seriously screwed up his sums. From:"Harry Willnus" <[email protected]> [Add to Address Book] To:<[email protected]> Subject:RE: Q for Dr Date:Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:16:31 PM [View Source] Audere: Here are a few answers. First---Bob (palenque) doesn't provide you with a clear picture. I am a ufologist --that is I research & study the UFO phenomenon & I've been doing that for nearly 55 years. I've worked with a number of UFO organizations including Dr. Allen Hynek's Center for UFO Studies (CUFOS). I've investigated numerous UFO events over the years. Bob mentioned an article I wrote for a European magazine. That magazine was UFO MAGAZINE (UK) but it is no longer published. My article was titled "Swamp Gas Revisited"and was built around a previously unpublished police report re: this case, one of the most well known in UFO history. Now, I've known Bob for years & I love him & wish him the best. But know this---- Bob is a DEBUNKER---he subscribes to the following: 1. DON'T BOTHER ME WITH THE FACTS, MY MIND IS MADE UP; 2. IF YOU CAN'T ATTACK THE DATA, ATTACK THE PERSON OR PEOPLE; (Bob often does this) 3. DO YOUR RESEARCH BY PROCLAMATION, NO INVESTIGATION REQUIRED. Bob knows very little about even the most well known UFO cases: Travis Walton, Barney & Betty Hill, Linda Cortelle, the Pascagoula, Mississippi case. He simply writes them ALL OFF! Bob PROCLAIMS! He'll never investigate--it's too much trouble. So that's where it's at when we get Bob's perspective. A FEW BRIEF ANSWERS: It is probably possible to travel in excess of light speed. Wormholes seem very likely. UFO's may well be be able to manipulate space & time. Getting here--what about bases in space---we had aircraft carriers in WW II which carried smaller craft. Inbreeds only seeing UFOs? Come on--get informed. 7 % of the US population has seen a UFO--that 21,000,000 people. Two US Presidents have seen UFOs (Carter & Reagan). UFOs are seen in EVERY COUNTRY in the world. Dr. Hynek estimated 100 UFOs are seen daily around the world. Hiding? They are here for THEIR purposes--we can't be sure what that may be. They go about their business & sometimes they are seen. Please Google: DISCLOSURE PROJECT FOR INFO on who wants to tell the story. Grey's seem to be doing the inter-breeding that you may have head about. They seem to be creating a hybrid--half them, half us. They often plant tiny "tracking devices" on individuals. Some of these have been recovered via surgery. See the work of Dr. Roger Lier for info. However, there are probably 15, 18, or 20 or more different kinds of aliens visiting earth. Some look similar to humans but others are reported looking like prehistoric creatures that roamed earth eons ago. That's it for now--I've got to rush out to investigate another UFO report. Keep your eyes to the skies. More later----???? DR. HARRY MICHIGAN USA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 1:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Q for Dr Author: audere_est_facere Date: 08/14/2007, 11:39 am Bob, are all your mates mentalists? Ask your pal the following: Does he think Einstein was right with E=MC2? If so can he explain why these UFOs are spending decades to get here and then hiding (not very well as they are seen, usually by inbreeds on deserted farms). It would be like paddling to Australia and hiding up a tree. Can he explain why the "Grey" type alien is a realtively recent phenomenon - previously aliens were described in all sorts of ways, now it's just the greys. Can he explain why aliens seem to be obsessed with sticking things up people's bums? Does he think it's a coincidence that most "flaps" happen in areas of military activity (Rosewell was the air force base of the squadron that dropped the A Bomb on Japan - not a lot of people know that) It would be nice for there to be aliens - but we are, effectively, alone. Unless Einstein seriously screwed up his sums. |
sorry about the inadvertent duplication!
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BTW - Dr Harry took so long to respond because the Home only allows him limited internet access
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audere - a response to Dr Harry's humble jumble?
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audere?
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He's mad.
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Loopygrl - maybe this was the same time you saw something in Broomingham?
UK/England A Silver Spherical Object MANCHESTER, FLIXTON -- I saw a silver spherical object move from west to east at 11.30 AM, on July 29, 2007. This object then stopped and traveled in a northerly direction. This location is on a flight path from Manchester Airport. I am used to seeing aircraft at varying heights. There was intermittent cloud cover and I lost sight of the object in the cloud. When I was 30 years old, I experienced the same situation. . Thanks to Brian Vike - Director of HBCC UFO Research and host of the radio show called The Vike Report http://www.hbccufo.org / |
"But it's all moot in any case - if you can't travel faster than the speed of light then there's no interplanetary contact possible."
However space/time can be bent and/or folded. |
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