Sick of,<BR>I think you’re right. We are at war. I’m so sick of these whiny Muslims. If Israel doesn’t defend itself the US will be next. They should be allowed to crush the Palestinian terrorists and anyone who gets in their way by any means necessary. <BR>

Amedeo, you must have better news services than the rest of us....can't seem to find your charges anywhere but in Saudi Arabia....What does that make you?

Amedeo<BR>Save your mishugas (craziness) for the arab masses. Only the ignorant, downtrodden would believe the crap you espouse about jews staying away from the WTC on 9/11. Remember, most readers on this board live in democracies, with freedom of the press and free discourse of ideas; save your anti semitic lies for the dictatorships and monarchys of the middle east.<BR>Shalom my ass.

With their continuing to b***h about the USA's war on terrorism, I'm convinced that the French don't have a freakin clue.<BR><BR>You have people who hate the West so bad, mostly America, but Europeans, get real, these loony tunes hate you also.<BR><BR>First you have the USA's glorious response to the vicious wave of murder. What do the French do? They bitch. They bellyache.<BR><BR>What the USA is doing is to insure that all lovers of freedom and free speech around the planet are safe.<BR><BR>Including the French!<BR><BR>Oh yeah, the French will reap the benefits from our war on terrorism.<BR><BR>But noooooooooo. Instead of being grateful, the French b***h and gripe. <BR><BR>Now they are blasting Israel for their efforts on those that would Comit murder using bombs.<BR><BR>Again, the French do not get it!

Would that be Festus, Festus Haigan? Let's go rastle up some Frenchies and slap 'em in jail. Kitty is waitin'!

Some of you are fake "AMEDEOs" just as you are fake US citizens. You pay allegiance to another country and do not deserve remaining in the US. Of course you do not have an understanding of your own history, as you were fed myth from infancy, and you expect people to buy the idea that Palestine belongs to the Jews by some divine right. Well, even if your god existed [for long ago he was discovered to be a variation of Zeus and Jupiter -- not to mention the fact that you have no god of your own, since you borrowed EL from Canaan]Yawveh would not have given land to you... The first expulsion was the thereabout of Ur, and you are really "innocent" in the original sense of the term: ignorant. I am not going to keep on paying taxes to save your skin; parasites should crawl away and vanish. It is too bad that you could not accept my suggestion as to what you could do on your own behalf. Keep on faking your identity!

Another reason I feel sorry for the original Arab Amadeo. He is so vindictive, bitter and angry. Sounds like a murderbomber to me!

Amedeo, you're babbling. Go to bed.

Amedeo, can you sing that to the Banana Boat Song:<BR><BR>Deo, Am-e-deo, dey light come and I wanna go home...<BR>

Amedeo, I just noticed this statement from an earlier post, and I quote, <BR><BR>"As one of the old profession, I'd say the french spoke in signs and said, "Go home, Zionists" -- a message some people do not like to hear about."<BR><BR>Now do you mean, you are of the "oldest" profession, nerk, nerk, know what I mean, know what I mean?

I know you are tired and want to go to sleep. So, I leave you with one thought (that you should ponder over the next two years):<BR>ALL OF YOUR CIRCUMCISIONS HAVE VEEN IN VAIN.<BR>-- The ancient diviner!

Anti-semitism may be creeping into Greece.<BR><BR>http://www.guardian.co.uk/elsewhere/...683479,00.html

Am posting this reply in 2 parts because the first time it didn't "take", because it was too long I guess. I liked this commentary on Israel that I read on the Internet a couple of months ago:<BR><BR>1. There has never been a Palestinian state. The Palestinians never ruled the land that they now claim is theirs. That doesn't mean they don't deserve a state, just that rubbish about their state being taken away is untrue. 2. In 1947 the UN voted on a partition plan dividing "Palestine" into two states – one for the Jews (Israel) and one for the Palestinians. The Jews accepted the partition plan and were prepared to establish their state in the land allotted them. The Palestinians said no, we want the whole thing. Upon the declaration of the state of Israel in May 1948, Israel was attacked on all sides by its Arab neighbors. Despite its small, inexperienced army, Israel won the war and many Palestinians fled or were pushed out. It is those Palestinians that formed the "refugees".3. In 1967, Israel again faced a war with all its Arab neighbors and again won. It was at this time that Israel captured more territories and took the eastern part of Jerusalem. What they found was devastating. The ancient Jewish part of the city had been completely desecrated and destroyed. A holy ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives had also been desecrated, with tombstones used by the Jordanians in the making of latrines. It is also interesting to note that when Jordan controlled the West Bank until 1967 there were no cries for a Palestinian state in those areas. 4. Israel is the only democracy and non-dictatorship in the Middle East.<BR>5. There are many Arab states, most of whom are underpopulated. There is one Israel. Most people don't realize just how small Israel is. It could fit inside the state of Rhode Island. You can drive from one end of the country in 8 hours and across its width at some points in as little as 40 minutes. The Palestinians could have been living a comfortable life in another Arab country. However, they have been used as a pawn by those countries who don't accept the legitimacy of Israel for 5 decades.<BR>

Continued:<BR>6. Those Palestinians who looked at the reality of the situation many years ago and agreed to live within Israel and accepted Israeli citizenship have overall lived a very comfortable life. There have been problems from time to time, but overall they have a higher average education and standard of living than the average in Arab States. They certainly have been treated much better by the Israelis than non-Arab citizens of Arab countries (including Jews who were persecuted in Syria, Egypt and Iraq) have been treated. They even have members elected to the Israeli Parliament. 7. Jews have had a continuous presence in the land of Israel since biblical times. To suggest otherwise, as many Palestinian leaders have, is false.8. Arafat was offered 95% of the West Bank and Gaza for a state by the then Prime Minister of Israel Ehud Barak at Camp David in July 2000. He refused, saying that it was not a good enough offer. Apart from the issue of Jerusalem, which likely could have been worked out, was the issue of the refugees. Arafat said that the Palestinians at the time that fled the land in 1948 (thousands or hundreds of thousands at the time) and ALL THEIR DESCENDANTS must be permitted to return to live in Israel. Those descendants now number 4 million people, many who have never lived anywhere close to Israel. He did not mean that they should be able to return to the new state of Palestine in the 95% of the West Bank and Gaza, but to the country of Israel. So what he really was saying is that we will have a Palestinian state and next to it we will have Israel (with its 6 million current citizens) which will now be home to 4 million Palestinians. As he well knows, the Palestinian birth rate is much higher than the Israeli birth rate, so in very little time, the Palestinians would have control of Israel as well as Palestine thereby accomplishing through the back door what they couldn't do through the front. <BR>

Well...I'm still awake...Pacific Standard Time. <BR><BR>After our return from France last summer, and pre 9-11, I wrote here that I thought Americans weren't getting as good of a reception in France. My understanding of French is fairly nuanced, I have done graduate study in French, studied at Alliance Francaise and lived in Cit&eacute; Universit&eacute; as an undergraduate and speak French well enough that our French friends, here and in France, compliment me. I have always loved to travel in France.<BR><BR>Anyway, it was obvious that we were Americans, (husband, sons are American through and through). I on the other hand usually get mistaken for Italian.<BR><BR>What struck me as odd then is that I was mistaken for Jewish several times, and with derision. Usually it only took one look from me showing I understood what they were saying for some of these people to apologize. But what struck me then was how odd it was, that people would voice their prejudices out loud and within hearing range, thinking we would not understand. And it had never happened in my many trips to France before.<BR><BR>I wrote then that I thought the mood in France had changed towards Americans. But I let it go, and attributed it to traveling in France with teenagers and to Bush policies. <BR> <BR>

Give me a break please!!! Do you have to use a travel site for this sort of comment and if you are all genuine travellers you would not be making such comments. Travel is for those who are tolerant, wish to learn of other cultures and places and who encompass all nationalities and treat every one of them with the same respect that they would like to be treated with. Open your hearts and minds and spread of bit of happiness instead of this fruitless and non productive dialogue.

Me - If the Palestinians had accepted partition in 1948, they would have their own state of Palestine for 54 years. Instead they started a war in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973. They got clobbered every time.<BR><BR>They have refused a state of their own since, the last at Camp David in 2000. No matter what you think of Barak's offer, Arafat left without making a counter-offer, and then started the present war.<BR><BR>France is off my list not because of 2 or 3 incidents, not because of 200 or 300 incidents, but that the government isn't doing what they should to stop it. America IS doing its best to stop hate crimes.<BR>

I agree with Kathy Forsyth this "travel talk" is not the place for discussing politics. What started the whole thing was somebody using some antagonism to the Jews as being ANTI-SEMITISM, namely <BR>being against the Jews on account of their being Jews [an ethnic people]. So those interested in THINKING about these matters, are invited to participate in a new "forum":<BR><BR>http://communities.msn.com/DezionificationClub<BR><BR>But since some of you wish to remain anonymous, I will coclude my posts by saying to Sally Anon.:<BR>I have read your party-line position in verious zionist web-sites. To make it brief:Your words or way os speaking ASSUME that you are entitled to be in Palestine, but you will kindly grant the Palestinians the wish to have a state of their. Your assumption is the basic error from which all the others flow. Human being do not RULE the land, as the Zionists do; they inhabit the land. I have no sympathy for the fanaticism of the Muslims, but we are not talking about Muslims, Judaic people,Protestants, or Catholics. Similarly, the Philistines and the Amorites inhabited the land. Palestine has always been the himeland of others, except for the Jewish interludes. As to the UN, there are two things to say: It is not a government or super-government; it is a political conversation clun where Zionists dominated the proceedings at critical times. (I remember watching on TV a session where the US ambassador was a Jew and practically prevented the Palestinians to present their cause. It was a farce -- which started making me interested in Zionist affairs.)Remember, the US has been fighting an on-off war agaist the Arabs on behalf of the Zionist state and of some American capitalists. Retaliations go on also on-and-off. But a whole atmosphere of lies has been created, which Bush could summarize in a few words: There are terrorists and there is the rightful state of the Zionists. I, for one, will never say AMEN.