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Coquelicot Apr 4th, 2019 07:33 AM

For flights, try Matrix - ITA Software by Google

It shows the cheapest dates to fly on or close to your starting and ending dates, if you're able to be flexible by a few days. ITA doesn't sell tickets, just finds flights for you.

You may not save money and you sure won't save time by taking a train to an expensive city to get a cheaper flight home.

butterfingers Apr 4th, 2019 08:50 AM

You know what would be crazy? If I said screw this and decide to go to Japan instead!

StCirq Apr 4th, 2019 10:05 AM

I'm not sure why that would be so crazy, except you'd have to start all over with the logistics and planning. A lot of us who are a lot older and less fancy-free than you are have made those kinds of decisions.

joannyc Apr 4th, 2019 10:37 AM

What about Paris > Ghent > Amsterdam? Fly into CDG, out of AMS.

butterfingers Apr 4th, 2019 10:45 AM

I mean as I am coming to realize the expenses and length of our Europe trip, it is starting to not sound as pleasant. I’ve already experienced going to Europe on a time-crunch and I don’t want to go through that again. Also my cousin really wants to go to Japan and it sounds like a very different experience. Seeing Mt. Fuji, Emporer Buildings, and the Nightlife. I’m seriously considering this now...

butterfingers Apr 4th, 2019 11:07 AM

Im just not sure how the currency works there. Because Yen-Dollar is very cheap (0.09 cents). I just dont know how much I would need and how much will get you what. Help?

joannyc Apr 4th, 2019 11:15 AM

You'll need to start a new post on the Asia forum. I spent 9 weeks in Japan and loved it.

janisj Apr 4th, 2019 11:30 AM

>>Im just not sure how the currency works there. Because Yen-Dollar is very cheap (0.09 cents)<<

Apples and oranges and tomatoes € vs $ and ¥ vs $ -- you need to study up a bit. IME Japan will be a bit more expensive than your other plans. Plus generally (but not always) flights to Japan will cost more than flying to a European hub. But you are thinking of changing plans at such short notice that you need to nail down transport and accommodations pretty quickly.

Travel_Nerd Apr 4th, 2019 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by butterfingers (Post 16898911)
I mean as I am coming to realize the expenses and length of our Europe trip, it is starting to not sound as pleasant. I’ve already experienced going to Europe on a time-crunch and I don’t want to go through that again. Also my cousin really wants to go to Japan and it sounds like a very different experience. Seeing Mt. Fuji, Emporer Buildings, and the Nightlife. I’m seriously considering this now...

I know you are in planning overload right now... though changing your focus to Asia isn't going to help that overload.

But if you want to go to Japan, go. Whatever you decide, as janisj points out, you need to make these decisions rather quickly, whether you stick with Europe or decide Japan instead.

butterfingers Apr 4th, 2019 12:13 PM

Alright I just had a talk with my Cousin and our parents and we are going to go to Japan instead. I will be buying the tickets tonight or tomorrow as soon as we figure out which cities we are visiting (most likely Tokyo, Osaka, Chiba, and Hiroshima). I have already found some amazing eateries in each one and I did some research and found out that a lot of parks/museums are free/ very cheap to enter. I also have to learn about the cultural norms there as to not be the “annoying tourist”

butterfingers Apr 4th, 2019 12:14 PM

Also how is Japan generally more expensive as janisj pointed out?

Travel_Nerd Apr 4th, 2019 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by butterfingers (Post 16898968)
Also how is Japan generally more expensive as janisj pointed out?

At this point, you need to open a new post in the Asia section of the forum...

Good luck planning!

butterfingers Apr 4th, 2019 03:30 PM

I feel so bad opening new posts because it makes me feel like im bothering the people on here. I ask too many questions, and people may get annoyed.

janisj Apr 4th, 2019 03:33 PM

If you are going to ask about Japan . . . you should post on the Asia Forum . . .

Travel_Nerd Apr 4th, 2019 03:45 PM


Originally Posted by butterfingers (Post 16899069)
I feel so bad opening new posts because it makes me feel like im bothering the people on here. I ask too many questions, and people may get annoyed.

Seriously, dude? You began this thread about asking about how to convince your parents to let you go on a trip. And we've already suggested you start a new topic in the appropriate spot and you're starting to feel like a bother?!

People want to help. People have been hugely helpful try to help you plan this trip AND your college trip. But now that your focus has moved from Europe to Asia, just post your questions in that area. I personally know nothing about Asia. But others do... so allow them to help you some more!

janisj Apr 4th, 2019 05:50 PM

You ARE a bother LOL but if you want to know about Japan . . . This ain't the place!

seems strange to me that your 'nervous' parents are 'letting' you do a road trip through several southern US states, a trip to Europe the same month AND now a trip to Japan instead. This is almost sounding dobytheturtle-esque >)

Old timers will know what I mean ;)
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bvlenci Apr 5th, 2019 04:24 AM

It's no bother, Butterfingers. Nobody is forced to answer these questions. And the debate is always useful to other people who are reading but not participating, or who come across the discussion when planning a trip in the future.

bilboburgler Apr 5th, 2019 05:09 AM

ah the land of the crucified whale, why not.

zebec Apr 5th, 2019 08:40 AM

Yo Butter,
In the late '80s/early '90s, Japan used to have a government-sponsored homestay program called PTP (People to People). It allowed visitors a glance into the otherwise oft-impenetrable culture.
Maybe worth checking out if there are any current versions of that same program.
I am done. The daijobu.

butterfingers Apr 7th, 2019 06:01 PM

Having a cigarette in a Parisian balcony overlooking the Arc De Triomphe/Having Weisswurst in Munich/Coffeehouse in Amsterdam vs. Japanese tea gardens/Nara Parks/Tokyo. Decisions, Decisions...


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