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bucurilie3603 Oct 5th, 2023 09:51 AM

Booking.com overcharged us
 
Booked a hotel in Bucharest with the above-mentioned agency. At the end of the estimate because of their worm heart they mentioned that,
a like 1% in Dollars they will support. I guess we had a special status after using them for so long. My wife went checked in and was informed that her credit card was charged, and everything was OK.
But you overcharged me over the agreed price, (like $25-30) this is the estimate we have from Booking.com. We don't know Ma-Am,
go ask them. And we did. They wanted proof, sent me a copy of your bank statement. We have the original estimate and the receipt from the hotel.
Now they want my bank info now. Left it hanging but never used them again. Now my friend is insisting to sue their ass.

Travel_Nerd Oct 5th, 2023 11:30 AM

It night be a difference in exchange rates at the time of your booking vs. the time of your trip. If that is the case, Booking explicitly states there might be difference of such on their website.

Also, local taxes are not figured into that price at booking. This is ALSO stated on their website at booking.

I'm guessing you might be based in the US. Are you really going to sue them for $30? Filing fees in small claims court will be at or higher than the amount allegedly owed.

Not to mention, Booking is not an US-based company. Good luck suing a foreign company in US court...

Moderator1 Oct 5th, 2023 11:33 AM

Modified title removing unsuitable language

bucurilie3603 Oct 5th, 2023 11:50 AM

I wish was that. No, taxes were included in the charge. The whole bill was calculated at the time of booking. This isn't in my opinion the agency's mistake. The hotel is the one who did that thinking no one will get it.
But the agency should of do good and honor their original price.

dfourh Oct 5th, 2023 11:51 AM

If indeed there is a discrepancy I am sure Booking.com will work with you to address it fairly and honestly. Booking.com has been the most remarkable, resourceful, responsible, and helpful booking agency I've ever worked with, and they continue to be nothing but remarkable, in these challenging times. If you work honestly and respectfully with them, they will do things right for you.

Jean Oct 5th, 2023 03:31 PM

I also have faith that Booking.com will honor what is correct. I've never had a problem with them over dozens of reservations, and the only time things went sideways, it was MY fault.

If you don't agree with Booking's answer, I'd just... let... it... go. I understand you think it's the principle of the thing, but I'm old and have come to believe there's a point when it's not worth getting worked up and possibly ruining the (presumably) happy memories you have of your trip. You might consider what percentage of the entire trip cost this amount represents...

bucurilie3603 Oct 5th, 2023 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jean (Post 17500962)
I also have faith that Booking.com will honor what is correct. I've never had a problem with them over dozens of reservations, and the only time things went sideways, it was MY fault.

If you don't agree with Booking's answer, I'd just... let... it... go. I understand you think it's the principle of the thing, but I'm old and have come to believe there's a point when it's not worth getting worked up and possibly ruining the (presumably) happy memories you have of your trip. You might consider what percentage of the entire trip cost this amount represents...

I agree with you, but, I agree with you.

janisj Oct 5th, 2023 05:29 PM

"They wanted proof, sent me a copy of your bank statement. We have the original estimate and the receipt from the hotel.
Now they want my bank info now"

I am not understanding this at all. I 'think' you mean you reported the overcharge to booking.com, and they are asking for more information? Is that correct? If not, what actually happened?? Who wants your bank information?

But in any case - 'suing their a$$' over $25 seems silly. The $25 could be extra tourist taxes, or almost anything. Many Booking reservations say something along the lines of . . . 'local taxes and fees may be collected locally'

Traveler_Nick Oct 5th, 2023 05:32 PM


Originally Posted by bucurilie3603 (Post 17500921)
. The whole bill was calculated at the time of booking. .

Unless you paid in advance the estimate they gave you in $ (I assume $) is based on the exchange rate the moment you booked. What was the charge in Romanian Leu? Is that different?

Even if you had paid in advance the final amount can/will vary . Your bank may use a different rate or tack on a fee.

Travel_Nerd Oct 5th, 2023 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 17500968)
"They wanted proof, sent me a copy of your bank statement. We have the original estimate and the receipt from the hotel.
Now they want my bank info now"

I am not understanding this at all. I 'think' you mean you reported the overcharge to booking.com, and they are asking for more information? Is that correct? If not, what actually happened?? Who wants your bank information?'

The who here is key. The OP's title states Booking overcharged them. But they do not collect funds...and if they do, it is given to the lodging. I have had my cards charged in advance- but not by Booking, but by the hotel.

If this is a difference in rates...well, one third party website may have different rates than another, and all might be different than the hotel's actual rate, too. This is par for the course of dealing with a third party agency.

Regardless, OP, if you sue them, you will have to supply evidence in court. If you are saying Booking overcharged you and you have bank information to "prove" it, it is in your best interest to supply it if they are asking for it to substantiate your claim of this supposed overcharge. You cant make a claim to something and have anyone - the company or court - to take you on your "word."

Michael Oct 5th, 2023 07:00 PM

The OP's title states Booking overcharged them. But they do not collect funds...and if they do, it is given to the lodging. I have had my cards charged in advance- but not by Booking, but by the hotel.


In one instance on our last trip to Europe in May-June, Booking.com used our credit card to pay for our stay. In the other we had problems because I had assumed that since booking.com had our credit card number that it would pay for our stay if we did not pay on time, as with the first stay.

Travel_Nerd Oct 5th, 2023 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by Michael (Post 17500976)
The OP's title states Booking overcharged them. But they do not collect funds...and if they do, it is given to the lodging. I have had my cards charged in advance- but not by Booking, but by the hotel.


In one instance on our last trip to Europe in May-June, Booking.com used our credit card to pay for our stay. In the other we had problems because I had assumed that since booking.com had our credit card number that it would pay for our stay if we did not pay on time, as with the first stay.

Thank you for that context - I was unaware as I have never had them charge me, even for advanced non-refundable stays and it has always been the hotel itself. 🤷‍♀️

Traveler_Nick Oct 5th, 2023 07:36 PM

Before Covid they started a program to make it easier for smaller hotels or apartments to take credit cards. You sometimes see it with larger hotels but they tend to have a merchant account and don't need to pay booking to handle things.

When the program was launched they kept sending out sale offers if you used it. I think I saved €1.50 on a trip to Pisa :lol:

halfapair Oct 6th, 2023 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 17500968)
"They wanted proof, sent me a copy of your bank statement. We have the original estimate and the receipt from the hotel.
Now they want my bank info now"

I am not understanding this at all. I 'think' you mean you reported the overcharge to booking.com, and they are asking for more information? Is that correct? If not, what actually happened?? Who wants your bank information?

But in any case - 'suing their a$$' over $25 seems silly. The $25 could be extra tourist taxes, or almost anything. Many Booking reservations say something along the lines of . . . 'local taxes and fees may be collected locally'

"We have the original estimate..."
I think the operative word here is "estimate."

Michael Oct 6th, 2023 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Travel_Nerd (Post 17500978)
Thank you for that context - I was unaware as I have never had them charge me, even for advanced non-refundable stays and it has always been the hotel itself. 🤷‍♀️

To clarify: my bookings were not for a hotel with a hotel clerk to hand out the key and presumably charge for the room; they were in the first case for an apartment rental, and in the second also an "apartment" located on the short term rental floor of a large office building converted into rentals or condos for the rest of the building. In neither instance was there any human contact to access our lodging.

janisj Oct 6th, 2023 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by halfapair (Post 17501061)
"We have the original estimate..."
I think the operative word here is "estimate."

Yes I saw that but with the other syntax and terminology issues in the OP - who knows what was meant . . .

Jean Oct 6th, 2023 11:14 AM

The OP had another thread with questions about what might be the same booking. Poor syntax in that thread, too, and mention of a Romanian/French Foreign Legion pension (but no Romanian bank card), wanting to pay in local currency.... If it's the same reservation (although he mentions "November"), It seems likely that this is a misunderstanding of the terms of the booking.

https://www.fodors.com/community/eur.../#post17491306

Christina Oct 6th, 2023 11:45 AM

this post doesn't make sense to me, the first sentence in particular (not sure what it is saying about the 1 pct).

Also, you either prepay or you don't. So if you don't prepay, the hotel collects the payment, so booking can't be charging you later on for it, that is the part that doesn't make sense to me. If you prepay, that's that. Out of curiosity, I checked and booking will include local taxes on Budapest hotels, in the total due. I didn't know they did that.

I suspect the "bank information" is in reference to the credit card, that's all. Like a credit card bill to prove allegations or something.

BUt if it were just an estimate and included local taxes (Bucharest has a hotel tax), I suspect it could just be the foreign transaction charge by the bank for his credit card, something like that. $25 would be in that ballpark of 1 to 3 pct for a hotel stay, plus some credit cards could even charge more for all I know. I think I've head that some have a flat foreign transaction fee minimum.

If it wasn't prepaid, just payment at the hotel, then it was just an estimate and foreign exchange rates could change, as well as a possible foreign transaction fee, that is very likely. But you can't sue a Romanian hotel if you are in the US, which I presume is the case given the quotes are in dollars.

dfourh Oct 6th, 2023 12:08 PM

Next post: go to your local Target store and buy multiple $500 gift cards, then post the serial numbers to me directly, do NOT post them on open thread.

OliviaRawlings Oct 6th, 2023 03:25 PM

This is concerning. I've always paid with booking.com and never had issues. I'll have to re-check credit cards now!

janisj Oct 6th, 2023 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by OliviaRawlings (Post 17501181)
This is concerning. I've always paid with booking.com and never had issues. I'll have to re-check credit cards now!

I personally would not worry about booking.com based on one semi-undecipherable post on an internet forum.

Traveler_Nick Oct 6th, 2023 07:35 PM

There is a scam going around. It seems some hotels have been hacked. The hacked hotels will send out a message using the booking messaging platform asking you to log into their website and send your credit card information.

If you receive anything similar contact booking . DON'T click the link. The one common part I've seen/heard of is the link includes the word guest and a number. But the rest of the link varies. I guess the servers are getting shutdown so they keep changing.

The link I received was for a server hosted in Korea. Pretty strange for a Spanish hotel.

OliviaRawlings Oct 7th, 2023 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 17501204)
I personally would not worry about booking.com based on one semi-undecipherable post on an internet forum.

I'm always wary of 3rd party online travel sites.

menachem Oct 8th, 2023 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 17500968)
"They wanted proof, sent me a copy of your bank statement. We have the original estimate and the receipt from the hotel.
Now they want my bank info now"

I am not understanding this at all. I 'think' you mean you reported the overcharge to booking.com, and they are asking for more information? Is that correct? If not, what actually happened?? Who wants your bank information?

But in any case - 'suing their a$$' over $25 seems silly. The $25 could be extra tourist taxes, or almost anything. Many Booking reservations say something along the lines of . . . 'local taxes and fees may be collected locally'

Sounds like a scam tbh

Travel_Nerd Oct 8th, 2023 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 17501599)
Sounds like a scam tbh

Perhaps it is. But OP has not been back to clear up the many observations and questions we had...

janisj Oct 8th, 2023 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by menachem (Post 17501599)
Sounds like a scam tbh

Absolutely nothing in the OP or subsequent posts indicate a scam is or isn't happening here. What happened remains entirely unclear. Until the OP can more clearly explain the situation we're all shooting in the dark.

dfourh Oct 8th, 2023 11:56 AM

I was recently double-charged by a hotel in Venice, and wrote to them, and there was a back-and-forth between the hotel, Booking.com, and me. But both Booking.com and the hotel wanted to see my bank payment information. I took a screenshot of the duplicate charges as they appeared on my credit card statement, and that made it the double charge perfectly clear, as it included all transaction information. But it did not include my credit card information except for the last four digits. Got the refund - - no scam there.

MichGuy Oct 8th, 2023 02:06 PM

I was hit by this scam. I had a reservation for a hotel in Cortina Italy in September through Booking.com (and had a wonderful stay there). In June or so, out of the blue, I received an email asking for credit card information to "verify" the reservation. It came in the Booking.com format but didn't look right -- Booking.com has never asked to verify a CC after the reservation is made. Except once when my CC went out of date. So I ignored it, planning to contact Booking.com if it persisted. But within a day the hotel itself emailed me and told me it was a scam, and don't follow it. Happy ending.

Travel_Nerd Oct 8th, 2023 02:33 PM

I'm confused, OliviaR, first you say you have always used Booking...and then next you say you are wary of "third party sites." If you're so wary, why have you used them?

travelingmom72 Oct 11th, 2023 08:48 AM

I really do not know what your experience with BOOKING.COM has been but mine has been a NIGHTMARE. I accidentally booked something for 70 nights for a YEAR from now and the credit card payment went straight to the hotel (I was price shopping and did not mean to hit book as I was trying to get a total in dollars from pounds and see what the VAT tax was all in). Because I canceled it right away when I made my mistake Booking.com sent the money to the TITIWANGSA ONE Paaddington hotel right away and told me to dispute it with my credit card. They then fought the credit card dispute because they money had already gone out. They said it was at the hotels discretion to allow the booking to be canceled and the hotel said no. AND because I canceled the reservation I am out $9200 and the hotel wont honor the original reservation either. NIGHTMARE! HORRIBLE COMPANY

dfourh Oct 11th, 2023 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by travelingmom72 (Post 17502271)
Because I canceled it right away when I made my mistake Booking.com sent the money to the TITIWANGSA ONE Paaddington hotel right away and told me to dispute it with my credit card. They then fought the credit card dispute because they money had already gone out. They said it was at the hotels discretion to allow the booking to be canceled and the hotel said no.

That's true of all non-refundable bookings - - once you click purchase you've purchased it. Depending on where you are making a booking or a purchase it will state outright that once you click the sale is final. If you were to book through Priceline or Hotwire it would be exactly the same: once you pull the trigger you have committed. Booking.com is simply the conduit and it is the hotel that makes the rules, and you are at the hotel's mercy. One time in England there was a blizzard and I could not make it to the city where I had a non-refundable booking, and Booking.com interceded by asking the hotel if they would allow me to cancel without penalty - - but it was entirely the hotel's decision - - and that hotel was kind and allowed me to cancel without penalty. It sounds like the hotel where you booked is instead playing hardball, but all Booking.com can do is ask the hotel if they will be lenient, and apparently this hotel chooses not to be. The money, once you click 'reserve' (and if you were to go back and look, there would have been clear statements that your purchase is final and non-refundable once you click 'reserve') does indeed to straight to the hotel - - Booking.com does not hold onto your money for a while, and then send it to the hotel when they feel like it. Your booking is instantaneous and it is a contract with the hotel, not with Booking.com. The same goes if you booked it through any other portal, like Expedia or Travelocity. It would be nice if Booking.com could bail you out, but they are a site that lists hotels, and facilitates the interaction with the hotel, but it is no less instantaneous than if you had booked directly on the hotel's website. Sometimes they can be great at helping out - - like if the hotel overbooks, Booking.com will go out of its way to help get you accommodation for the night. They really do try to help if it is within their power. But they can't tell the hotel that the hotel should bend their rules, and refund a nonrefundable booking. That is entirely up to the hotel.

travelingmom72 Oct 11th, 2023 11:01 AM

Yes, this has been a nightmare and there is no consumer protection on these NON REFUNDABLE rooms, even when booked by mistake. It is predatory in nature and something that needs to be addressed. While they say you have entered a contract when booking, a contract needs to have intent, which clearly I did not have.

janisj Oct 11th, 2023 12:25 PM

There is nothing predatory. You need to be really careful when dealing with Non-refundable bookings, as-is sales, etc. Booking.com has done nothing wrong that I can see. Your issue is entirely with the hotel.

"They then fought the credit card dispute because they money had already gone out. They said it was at the hotels discretion to allow the booking to be canceled and the hotel said no."

The money has just about always gone out when one resorts to a credit card dispute. That isn't a reason -- what did your credit card issuer say?

I'm not victim blaming here but how does one accidentally book a SEVENTY night stay?


Travel_Nerd Oct 11th, 2023 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by travelingmom72 (Post 17502293)
Yes, this has been a nightmare and there is no consumer protection on these NON REFUNDABLE rooms, even when booked by mistake. It is predatory in nature and something that needs to be addressed. While they say you have entered a contract when booking, a contract needs to have intent, which clearly I did not have.

When did your situation occur? Because, even if you did not "intend" to book a 70-night non-refundable stay, the website requires active participation by the user before booking. You first have to use the "drop down" arrow to select the amount of rooms you want and THEN click on "I'll reserve." Feel like there are some details missing from your story here.

I do not know what consumer protection laws will prevent this. Seems as if the fact it requires active participation AND confirmation of a non-refundable reservation before the booking is finalized, it meets the requirements to properly notify the user and therefore no additional protection is needed.

janisj Oct 11th, 2023 01:26 PM

travelingmom72 started a thread on the Travel Tips board with the title "Booking .com steals $9200 for a reservation a year from now". I'm sorry this happened, but IMO that is outrageous. Booking didn't steal anything!

dfourh Oct 11th, 2023 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by janisj (Post 17502327)
travelingmom72 started a thread on the Travel Tips board with the title "Booking .com steals $9200 for a reservation a year from now". I'm sorry this happened, but IMO that is outrageous. Booking didn't steal anything!

It's the hotel that milked it. You have to be careful what you click on, and read very carefully precisely what the conditions are. Booking.com shouldn't have to be out $9200 - - to take that loss - - because someone didn't read what is not the fine print, but what is clearly stated inbold print. I think all of us who use these reservation tools are super super careful to make sure we have the exact dates right, and are very clear what the conditions are, before clicking on what is clearly stated as what becomes our contractual obligation.

Traveler_Nick Oct 11th, 2023 05:20 PM

You didn't accidently hit book. You hit book. You got sent to a second page to check everything. You accepted that. It takes forever for me to get from the initial click to the final.

The price in $ should have been visible before hitting anything. If US$ is your home currency.

lcuy Oct 11th, 2023 06:41 PM

I almost always use Booking.com. I don't understand what is going on in OP's case, but booking.com is not as accurate as some are saying here. I can't remember the details, but twice they really overcharged me. Once had to do with a hotel in Singapore, and they charged me in some odd currency, when my reservation confirmation clearly stated it was in Singapore dollars. The overcharge was several hundred dollars, and it took me weeks of phone calls and emails to straighten it out. Booking kept using that "local taxes may be applied ..." when it had nothing it do with taxes.
Another time, the hotel showed my reservation was for several months BEFORE I showed up at the hotel. I had booked the room (and gotten a confirmation notice) only a couple of days before I arrived. Booking.com insisted that couldn't happen on their software, but it did. Only when I asked visa to intervene did Booking.com admit it was a glitch in their system.

Traveler_Nick Oct 11th, 2023 07:05 PM

Oh I've seen problems with accuracy. I had one hotel charge me LESS. The reason being the way Booking calculates the city taxes doesn't take into account everything. My stay was long enough I only had to pay the tax for the first few days.

I had to figure this out myself because the hotel just said pay X while my booking was higher. I wasn't going to argue with the hotel and accepted the lower price.

bilboburgler Oct 12th, 2023 12:22 AM

the UK has some very tough consumer protection legislation, so much so that various Fodorites from other legislative countries often cannot believe it.

A "nightmare" over a uncancellable £/$70 booking that couldn't be cancelled.

Wait.... I'll ring my MP (sarcasm)


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