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ljc4creb Apr 4th, 2007 12:13 PM

Alitalia Airline recently?
 
Has anyone flown on Alitalia recently? There are only posts from several years ago and not good ones.

Girlspytravel Apr 4th, 2007 12:16 PM

Try looking up Alitalia on www.airlinequality.com. You'll get lots of feedback there. Alitalia gets 3 stars for economy, 4 stars for business class.

ljc4creb Apr 4th, 2007 12:32 PM

Thanks girlspy...

Rastaguytoday Apr 4th, 2007 12:40 PM

Good call, Girlspytravel.

Skytrax also will give you info on airport quality, lounge quality, etc....

Check out www.seatguru.com to see what their airline seat size is and what they fly.

TravMimi Apr 4th, 2007 12:54 PM

Not my favorite airline for a number of reasons. One being I don't like having to check the strike schedules just to book a flight.

ljc4creb Apr 4th, 2007 01:35 PM

Strike schedule? No mention of that when I BOUGHT my tickets. I checked out the www.airlinequality.com and now I can look forward to a late flight (probably cancelled), worn ripped seats, broken toilet, lost luggage, gross food, nasty attendants that are missing the whole flight, pilots that have temper tantrums in front of and at passengers, and absolutely no customer service. I will cry for 12 or more hours and hopefully make it to Italy and then try to have a great time before I have to go back to Alitalia and be treated like crap. I will now be researching how to tolerate and survive this hell....trying not to cry....

carlyshells Apr 4th, 2007 01:36 PM

ljc4creb - I flew Alitalia very recently and was not impressed. Although I had very low expectations anyway, so it was also not terrible. The food was bad, the beverage service was even worse. On a 7+ hr flight from Milan to Boston, the cart only came around twice, and I think the second time was because so many people were going back to get a glass of water that they got fed up with passengers milling around. The bathrooms were despicable, but the flight crew was very nice. Fortunately, they did not lose my luggage, and our flight was delayed getting into Rome by only an hour. If I had no choice and had to fly them again, I would still maintain my low expectations, and would defintely bring food on the plane.

WillTravel Apr 4th, 2007 01:37 PM

It's unlikely all of those things or even most will happen. If you read all the complaints of everyone at once, it will sound bad, but so do most airlines on that web site.

TravMimi Apr 4th, 2007 01:40 PM

ljc - where are you flying from/to. That can make a difference.

ljc4creb Apr 4th, 2007 02:03 PM

I am flying from Boston, then Venice to Rome to Boston.........still feeling ill.......

Graziella5b Apr 4th, 2007 02:04 PM

I give five stars for business to Alitalia. We flew to Milan and it was really a very good service. Arrived in time, but it is not only the food, the coffee, the icecreams on board, it is the elegence of its super confortable light grey seats, temendous distance between seats and also the very casual, but polite Alitalia personel on board. I really like it.Everything was so roomy , like there is like a bar space in business. A very nice experience.

ljc4creb Apr 4th, 2007 02:10 PM

Graziella....you are not talking about economy seats, right?

TravMimi Apr 4th, 2007 02:21 PM

I assume you are making a connection Bos-?-Venice. You might be on a long distance flight with a new plane, like a 777 out of New York. You also could be flying on Delta plane and crew, even though it says you are on Alitalia. Like Delta/Alitalia Atlanta to Rome is a Delta set up.

ljc4creb Apr 4th, 2007 02:38 PM

TravMimi......sorry, I wasn't clear. Flying from Boston to Rome. Coming home, will leave Venice airport to Rome and then to Boston.

Weadles Apr 4th, 2007 02:39 PM

We flew Alitalia business class last July from JFK-Rome, Milan-JFK, and roundtrip from Rome-Athens. The transatlantic portion was very good, although the food was pretty bad. The Rome-Athens portion was terrible- torn seat cushions, bad service, and delays on either end.

ljc4creb Apr 4th, 2007 02:44 PM

So, it is looking like my first trip to Italy with my husband will be accompanied by our new friend Lunesta.

Graziella5b Apr 4th, 2007 02:47 PM

Wow....Weadles, Then we were very lucky. We also fly business Alitalia, Rome to Madrid, and although it was not as nice as the inter continental flight, it was a nice flight. In my experience much better than flying Air France from Paris to Madrid the year before., not any better or any worse than KLM, Madrid to Amsterdam.
There was a set back in this Alitalia flight, ALL LUGGAGE was delayed in ROME.I mean the luggage of every single person.

Anya Apr 4th, 2007 02:47 PM

Al Italia was nothing special. Food in economy was below average and nothing to drink except water and some red liquid they called orange juice. I'd still take it because it's a direct flight NYC-Rome rather than make a connection. Delta codeshare on the way back was better.

ljc4creb Apr 4th, 2007 02:57 PM

Do they only codeshare with Delta from certain places?

TravMimi Apr 4th, 2007 03:24 PM

ljc - they code share with a lot of airlines. You can research your flight number and it will tell you exactly what type of flight it is. Code share, type of aircraft.

TravMimi Apr 4th, 2007 03:32 PM

sorry I clicked post to quickly.
To add to my above post. Don't feel so bad. The reason Alitalia scores so poorly in ratings is mostly because of their domestic and short haul flights, which are MANY. That's probably why people keep using them. Those are horrible. Half of the Alitalia fleet is old MD-80s need I say more. International is more in the low cost carrier class, so no better or worse than most of those, just worse than most major carriers. Perhaps you could pay and upgrade to at least an exit row seat.

ronin Apr 4th, 2007 03:34 PM

we were Alitalia from JFK to Milano, and I must say that the staff were more, hmmmmm... shall we say, "poised" than most U.S. domestic economy class compartment flight staff. My well-intentioned wife pre-ordered the kosher meal for me for dietary reasons (thanks, honey!), but the upside was a wonderful dinner - served about 20 minutes earlier than the wife's! I didn't notice any real improvement in room, maybe a little less than stateside, but the de-facto wine bar gathering that developed in the rear of our flight to Milan would've been cause for great concern here ;-)

the really interesting part? flying with about 50% Italians to-and-fro. The quirky part? the check-in at JFK was a little off-putting, allowing pre-board check-in only 1 hour (am I imagining that?) prior to the flight at JFK. There was plenty of food & services on the outside of the security check, thank goodness.

ljc4creb Apr 4th, 2007 03:39 PM

oh well, I guess I get it know. I have learned so much from all of you, some things hard to take...but, I will going to Italy. Hopefully my trip report will be close to what I am dreaming about. Thanks.

repete Apr 4th, 2007 03:39 PM

re the drinks cart:

It's been a year or so, but I've flown them a lot. The crew will often make a pass and then have "open bar" left at the back of the plane.

Not a great airline but better than some of the transatlantic service on US carriers ... for me at least

Pausanias Apr 4th, 2007 03:43 PM

Flew them two months ago, Newark to Rome and back (economy). Return was Delta codeshare.

Legroom and seat comfort were above average. Color of seats was soothing . . . famous Italian design I guess. Luggage arrived with us.

When the food service arrived, I simply informed them I was used to better. Instantly a waiter appeared with a chafing dish -- prepared perfect pasta cacio e pepe and veal milanese. Wine was Tignanello. When the desserts failed to please, they contacted an approaching jet from Austria and arranged a mid-flight pastry transfer. You simply have to know how to ask.

On the down side, we left Newark two hours late, but many flights were delayed.

TravMimi Apr 4th, 2007 03:43 PM

ljc - the point is getting to Italy and they will get you there. You will have a wonderful time. It's 9 little hours. Don't fret a second, get back to planning the trip and all that good stuff.

patiboo Apr 4th, 2007 06:42 PM

We fly via Al Italia Atlanta to Venice and return Rome to JFK and go next week. I,too have heard negative stories aboaut Al Italia. This posting reference code-referencing and I checked our flights. They indicate they are operated by Delta - yippee! Does that mean what I hope that we will be on a Delta airplae with Delta staff?
Great tip, Fodorites! I love Italy but have been hesitant about this airline based on reviews....

bella33 Apr 4th, 2007 06:51 PM

We traveled Newark - Milan roundtrip in March 06 and when we arrived in Milan luggage for 4 of the 5 of us was missing due to our connecting flight into Newark being late. We had a busy trip and were headed for Venice immediately. We stayed 2 nights in Venice, no luggage. On our way driving down the Adriatic coast, Alitalia called our cell phone and our luggage was in Ancona (we had given them our route) so we picked it up a couple of hours later. They gave us forms to submit with receipts for the clothes that we bought and although it took about 6 months, they gave us $300 reimbursement (which was greater than the receipts we turned in - they rounded up). Food and service was good on the flights.

Girlspytravel Apr 4th, 2007 06:59 PM

I think this post is a perfect example of what LoveItaly said on another post-people with too much information.....

Graziella5b Apr 5th, 2007 12:51 AM

THis is a question for Bella, I am glad that Alitalia settle with you, when we flew ROme to Madrid, all the luggage of the plane was left in Rome. I said this before, I did not say however that my husband's suitcase was opened and some items were stolen. We submitted to Alitalia by fax in Madrid a complain, and do not know what to do as a follow up. Did you follow up your request to Alitalia?, or simple waited six months. Will help me a lot.
What was stolen? Several things including a fairly new pair of men shoes, which BTW are not cheap...

takemealong Apr 5th, 2007 03:44 AM

We flew on Alitalia in October 2006. Dulles to Milan to Venice on the way over. Rome to Newark on the way back. We were in economy. We found the airline perfectly acceptable and, contrary to some of the other posters comments, the food was better than many of the other airlines we've flown. We did not lose our luggage nor did we have any delays. The orange juice that one poster referred to as "red liquid" may have been blood orange juice which is common in Italy.

W9London Apr 5th, 2007 04:07 AM

Hmmm. Maybe ljc4creb won't have to despair. Things may actually get better if Alitalia privatisation saga progresses... ...heard Aeroflot is a potential bidder.

caroline_edinburgh Apr 5th, 2007 04:12 AM

I've flown with them countless times over the years, although admittedly only within Europe, but never had a single problem.

caroline_edinburgh Apr 5th, 2007 04:15 AM

P.S. People tend not to bother posting about totally uneventful flights.

jdraper Apr 5th, 2007 04:25 AM

I have never flown Alitalia but have flown many other airlines over the years. Most of them are about the same as the others, cramped seats in coach, mediocre food, decent but not excellent service and to many people packed into a small place. Just look at it as the penance you have to get through to get to someplace marvelous. Your vacation really begins after you get there and the flight is just the means of getting there so don't worry about it. Take essential items such as medications and a change of clothes, in your carryon so you will have them if your luggage is lost or delayed. Try to sleep as much as you can during the flight and just get through it. It is well worth it to go to Italy no matter what airline you are on. Enjoy!

ljc4creb Apr 5th, 2007 05:04 AM

Thank you to all who posted a few different experiences. I called Alitalia and my flight is codeshare with Delta and they said I would be on an Alitalia plane. It is non-stop.I just want to get to Italy and have my clothes with me. Those going soon, please let us know how things went.

mlaffitte Apr 5th, 2007 05:15 AM

If you are planning to earn frequent flyer miles from an Alitalia codeshare partner, be careful. I recently flew Alitalia from Paris to Milan on a codeshare with Air France, which I booked through AF using my AF frequent flyer card. However when I got my frequent flier statement the next month, it showed only 180 miles for the flight which in fact was close to 1,000 miles. Same thing happened for the return flight, too. Otherwise I had no problem with Alitalia service.

repete Apr 5th, 2007 05:18 AM

They indicate they are operated by Delta - yippee!

First time I've ever seen Delta and yippee in the same thought ... we all have different experiences but I'd much rather be on Alitalia than Smelt-ya.

BarbaraJ Apr 5th, 2007 05:39 AM

ljc4creb - Relax and just concentrate on going to Italy. We're also booked on Alitalia, but out of Cincinnati. It is a code-share with Delta. Since it's the only non-stop flight we would probably have booked no matter what. At least with a direct flight, you don't have to worry about connections if delayed and your luggage has a good chance of arriving with you. Since Alitalia was $100 less pp we booked on them instead of Delta. There are so many factors when you fly that I don't worry about it. Our last flight home from Rome we were on American. Comfortable flight, lots of leg room, but we were surrounded by a Jr. High group going back home. It was not one of the more restful flights we've had.

ljc4creb Apr 5th, 2007 05:49 AM

BarbaraJ...It seems you picked Alitalia for the same reasons I did. My flight is overnight, non-stop, and was and still is the cheapest under these circumstances. The longest I have been on a plane is 3.5 hrs. I'll keep my expectations extremely low and just go.


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