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Gpanda Nov 9th, 2005 02:16 AM

Dawn Rooney's Angkor Book
 
I've had no luck obtaining a copy of DR's 4th Edition Book on Angkor. Neither Amazon nor Barnes and Noble could get one for me. Any ideas? We leave on 12/23/05 and I'd like to read it beforehand. Thanks.

althom1122 Nov 9th, 2005 03:21 AM

Try your library. Ours had a copy!

Kathie Nov 9th, 2005 05:41 AM

Check local used book stores. Check Powell's on the web. Good luck!

jules39 Nov 9th, 2005 06:02 AM

Gpanda I have not been able to get this book either. I did get a copy of Michael Feemans book which I am enjoying. Good luck with the library that would be an easy option. If you do locate one would be interested to know where! There is a 5th edition coming out but it is now not until mid Jan a little late for you but may scrape it in for me.
J

Kathie Nov 9th, 2005 06:31 AM

I'm wondering if I should auction off my copy of the 4th edition and maybe even my copy of the 1st edition to finance my shopping in Bangkok...

Craig Nov 9th, 2005 06:34 AM

I did a search on Google (James take note) entering the words "Dawn Rooney Angkor 4th edition" - although most of what came up was garbage, on the fourth or fifth page was a link to another search site which brought me to ecampus.com which can provide you with a brand new copy for $24.78, including shipping.

Kathie Nov 9th, 2005 07:56 AM

And Powell's lists a used copy for $8.50

Kathie Nov 9th, 2005 07:59 AM

And a seller on Amazon has a copy for $14.95. (There is another seller listing one for $34.95)

Gpanda Nov 9th, 2005 08:41 AM

Thanks. I've ordered the 4th Edition new from ecampus.com. If this doesn't work, Craig is banned from further GTG's. If it does work, Bob will pay for his lunch/dinner.

jules39 Nov 9th, 2005 08:42 AM

I did follow up on some orders on Amazon a few weeks ago which showed promise and about a week after ordering I got an email saying they could not supply it! so the order was cancelled.
J

Kathie Nov 9th, 2005 08:56 AM

Jules, in my experience sometimes a book sells (from another seller) and Amazon doesn't get updated immediately. Powell's is worth a try.

Gpanda Nov 9th, 2005 10:33 AM

Jules39. That was my exact experience on Amazon. I'm hoping for better luck with Craig's recommendation on ecampus.com. My hopes are medium strength.

Craig Nov 9th, 2005 11:09 AM

Andy - if you are in doubt about whether the book is actually in stock, you could call ecampus's toll-free customer service number and find out. I wouldn't want to miss out on Bob treating me to a meal, after all.

Gpanda Nov 9th, 2005 11:33 AM

Actually talking with a person would deprive me of the potential disappointment and accompanying resentment that pretty much makes up my life. This way I can get my medium hopes elevated to near certainty and then have them dashed. I draw your attention to my experience with Amazon. Plus, what's the actual chance Bob would pay for anyone else. At the Boston GTG dinner (missed by you), Bob tried to avoid paying for both him and Karen. A twofer. If you can get a free luch out of him, I would have the food tasted.

FromDC Nov 9th, 2005 04:56 PM

I tried to order the book from ecampus.com during the summer. After more than a month without receiving it, and emailing them several times, I finally cancelled the order. They told me they were trying to locate a copy. I finally found one online at one of the second hand sellers, I can't remember if it was Alibris or thru Amazon. It came within a week after I ordered it. So, don't count on ecampus!

Gpanda Nov 9th, 2005 05:22 PM

Ha! Just as I suspected. The possibilty of grotesque disappointment awaits. This is really sad.

Craig Nov 9th, 2005 08:45 PM

Looks like I'm going to miss out on that free lunch/dinner...I wouldn't want to be banned from future gtg's on account of your misfortune. Don't shoot the messenger as they say.

You should call them, Andy in spite of your reservations on doing so.

Gpanda Nov 10th, 2005 02:29 AM

I'll conquer my inherent shyness and call them. Does anyone know their telephone number? The 800 directory did not have a listing.

Craig Nov 10th, 2005 03:13 AM

888-388-9909 between 9 and 5 EST.

You will be charged my usual fee for these "extra" services.

Gpanda Nov 10th, 2005 08:46 AM

Just spoke with ecampus, who said they would be sending me an E-mail cancelling my order. They were singularly unresponsive to my inquiry why they listed books that they could not sell. Bob is behind this. Craig, you're not banned from the GTG's because you provided the phone number. However, the question of probation has arisen.

FromDC Nov 10th, 2005 09:03 AM

I had alot more luck with the publisher. They offered to make a copy of the new edition for me (B&W, tho, no color) and FedEx it to me (from Hong Kong, I think). Ultimately, I decided I'd rather go with the old edition because I thought it would be easier to travel with. But they really went out of their way to help. I'd be happy to loan you my copy when I return on Dec 1, if that helps.

rhkkmk Nov 10th, 2005 09:42 AM

i have six copies of each edition but i am not sharring them....oh does my lunch/dinner taste good...

Gpanda Nov 10th, 2005 09:53 AM

FromDC-I'm going to try to obtain a used copy. If I'm unsuccessful, I will Whine further.

Gpanda Nov 10th, 2005 10:01 AM

Just ordered ta used 3rd edition from Amazon to Threadsave for $19.50. We'll see.

If Bob had 6 copies of anything, you can bet 5 were free. He lives in Needham. The only guide he needs is to the mall.

jules39 Nov 10th, 2005 01:04 PM

Good Luck Gpanda!
J

rhkkmk Nov 10th, 2005 06:11 PM

in this case a "used copy" refers to the copy that a certain attorney (use of this term is loose) "borrowed permanently" from the harvard wagner library's special collections....

MaryW Nov 10th, 2005 07:01 PM

Gpanda - if all else fails you'll be able to pick up a copy in the market in Siem Reap - they are very cheap (aboutUS$5) so I suppose they are copies (but good ones). They are everywhere. I know you'd like it before you go but its still worth getting there if you don't get the copy you've ordered. It would of course deprive Ms Rooney of her dues but then she won't get anything from the books if no- one is stocking them anyway!

Gpanda Nov 11th, 2005 04:33 AM

The scheduling of the release of the 5th Edition has been very peculiar. First, it was due out in July, then October and now January. One wonders why the delays. Have they discovered new temples? Do the characters need sprucing up? Is there a Khmer holiday in January that will boost sales? Why?

rhkkmk Nov 11th, 2005 05:39 AM

they are trying to ruin your holiday is the reason for the book delay...

Gpanda Nov 24th, 2005 06:47 AM

The Third Edition has arrived. Craig your probationary period is lifted. However, the book is very serious; Nary a joke to be found. It may be that Mrs. Panda will be required to read and interpret. We'll see.

rhkkmk Nov 24th, 2005 06:51 AM

joke...look in the mirror...

rhkkmk Nov 24th, 2005 07:09 AM

poor mrs gpanda....she has such a hard life...what with having to read to the gpanda and also collect all of his bamboo and the like, plus pick up after his mess.....

Gpanda Nov 24th, 2005 05:04 PM

Pandas are near extinction. They should be cherished while they're still with us. Bankers, on the other hand, are a dime a dozen. That's 4 Baht. You can't ride the river ferry for that. You can cross twice.

rhkkmk Nov 24th, 2005 06:32 PM

poor mrs panda also is saddled with the ROS.....in her next life she will do better...

Craig Nov 29th, 2005 06:42 AM

Just checked Amazon - I am wondering if its a misprint - the publication date for the 5th edition is now February 29, 2008???

rhkkmk Nov 29th, 2005 08:04 AM

did you see the post this weekend that the book is avaialble all over SR for $4??

Craig Nov 29th, 2005 08:39 AM

Yes, Bob I did see that the book was available in SR but I would prefer to read it before I get there.

Gpanda Nov 29th, 2005 11:06 AM

Only Bob would waste his time in Siem Riep reading when he could be looking at the actual temples. Of course, normal people want to read it first.

rhkkmk Nov 29th, 2005 08:50 PM

normal??? why be normal...its too damn hot to go out and look at those piles of rocks....especially when you can sit in a pool or a/c room and look at pictures that are perfectly taken of the best parts of the ruins...you might trip on a loose rock, or a snake might approach you or it might rain....normal what's normal...living in cambridge, riding a bike all over the place, running in road races with kids after 50...now thats normal...

Kathie Nov 30th, 2005 01:18 AM

On a more serious note, I assume everyone knows that the copies of Dawn Rooney books one buys in Siem Reap are just that - (not very good) copies. Info for those who respect intellectual property rights.

On a less serious note, I understand that Bob hired a guide in Siem Reap so he didn't have to read...


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