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sylvia3 Oct 20th, 2005 02:30 PM

what on earth is your problem, utah? can't not have the last word? your turn...and I'm sure you'll have some more nasty comments to make. any bets?

utahtea Oct 20th, 2005 04:26 PM

sylvia,

Funnny, I was betting that you would respond even though you're the one spouting about wasting space with post just like you just made. Infact, I made it very clear that if you wanted to end it....all you had to do was not respond.

I don't have a problem, I just like keeping the record straight and on that subject, I never said I wouldn't respond. Besides, egging you on has been fun.

You are the one telling us that you're not going to read post on the subject but you do. You're the one telling me not to waste space, but yet you respond with nonsense and waste space.

I do want to appologize to mcmars for turning his/her post into a war zone, but on the brightside.... it does keep putting it to the top for others to see and respond.

Utahtea


Agratravel Oct 20th, 2005 05:22 PM

We were in the area for a week this summer (late June) with 2 kids, 17 and 9. We spent several days exploring southern Yellowstone (the lower loop), not enough time in the park, but we all loved it. My kids never got tired of seeing the next thermal pool or mud pot, the colors are glorious, nor of seeing too many bison, etc. We stayed at Jackson Lake Lodge (great place - the view from the huge lobby area is spectacular)), but would recommend staying in Yellowstone for a day or two at various strategic locations - the scenery is gorgeous no matter how many times you see it, and it really does change from day to day (and time of day) based upon weather conditions, but driving the same roads to get to the next "start" location does get old fast - the time could and should be better spent exploring. The old Park hotels may be more expensive and a bit musty, but they represent an era for which there is simply no replacement - to me, it's part of the whole "western park" experience (I'm not a camper), I had always wanted to see them and we did stop to peak - they are each quite grand in their own way - and my kids love exploring big hotels. On a repeat trip I would definitely stay at Old Faithful and at Lake Yellowstone - I think the lodges add to the whole experience. Also, the in-park lodges have ranger programs in the evening that our family enjoyed. And you can play games in the lobby, we took our own dominos and cards, but the lodge had games as well. It makes for an enjoyable real "family" vacation.

If you have time, consider visiting Grand Teton as well as Yellowstone, very different scenery and (a little) less traveled. There are good family hiking trails, some old homestead properties that show kids a different way of life, and some different wildlife - we saw more variety/ quantity in GT than in YS. Also, we took time out to do a trail ride and to white-water raft, which my kids really enjoyed.

wanderluster Oct 21st, 2005 06:34 PM

Mcmars,
Please do stay inside the Park as you
originally planned~ all our kids were there as 9 year olds (and younger) and
did fine without tv and similar commercialism!
If you are excited about the *adventure* they will be also.
I'm sure you realize that.
Our kids couldn't be more *city folks*;)and were absolutely fascinated
with the delights of Yellowstone National Park.
Where ever you choose to stay,
camping, lodges, cabin, be sure it's
in the Park.
And please write a trip report when
you return.

starrsville Oct 22nd, 2005 02:57 AM

I would definitely stay in the park. We enjoyed the Old Faithful Lodge.

I also agree that kids will LOVE staying in the park and staying in hotels/lodges/cabins that are outside their norm. If you are going to do the great west, then do it in something other than the usual cookie cutter experience.

I took my "babies" on a wonderful western trip doing the Colorado and Arizona National Parks and we stayed in KOA Kamping Kabins most of the time. The next year the boy wanted his kids' birthday party at a KK - and so we caravaned with kids to the closest one to home and they had a GREAT spend-the-night-birthday party - his favorite of his childhood (he's 25 and just got married).

Not to be repetitive, but GOOD GRIEF! If kids can't enjoy a life experience without a "modern" hotel/ motel experience without TV or pool, then we are raising a scary generation.

I have no idea what the give and take is all about on this thread, and don't care to read it all - but I would consider Utahtea's input the gold standard of advice regarding traveling the American West. That's not a slam to anyone else. Utahtea has simply earned my respect and I've never disagreed with anything she has written based on my personal experience with the locales she's described.

Go for lodging in the park (IMHO).

starrsville Oct 22nd, 2005 03:27 AM

Ok. I was curious. I read the posts in questions.

Just to point out, it was another poster that referred to - and labeled - s's opinion as a blanket statement -

>> Sylvia, I strongly disagree with your blanket statement about traveling with children in Yellowstone<<

Aren't forums grand? There are no right/ wrong answers - just opinions! :-)

And, the consensus of opinions on this thread seems to be... stay in the park when traveling with kids - even (or especially) if it means no TV! :-)

gail Oct 22nd, 2005 03:39 AM

You have plenty of time to book accomodations in Park. Let me offer an opinion that if accomodations, time, cost, or anything else prevent you from staying in Park, we are example of family of 4 that had wonderful Yellowstone experience staying outside Park this summer.

We were unable to plan far enough in advance to stay in Park, although we have stayed in several other western parks and had a great time. Other issues were cost (we would have needed 2 rooms inside park) and for variety of reasons we wanted refrigerator, microwave. TV was not the issue.

So whatever works for you I can almost guarantee you will love Yellowstone.

justme22 Oct 22nd, 2005 05:44 AM

never travelled with kids but i recall in the canyon area of yellowstone that with the sidewalks and things, kids were all over the place (in the cabin/hotel room area) on their bikes riding around and having lots of fun.

sure things can get a little dicey with a group of anyone in a confined space for a week but yellowstone WILL tire you out there is so much to see.

fill up the day, get a trail ride in gardiner for a day not just in the car and out at the scenic view. you can also get a raft ride out of jackson on the snake - the water will be cold in june tho.)

richbutnot Oct 22nd, 2005 05:53 AM

"You have plenty of time to book accomodations in Park."

I respectfully disagree. I just booked my rooms for June of 2006. There were 4 rooms left in the whole Old Faithfull area for four people, nothing with a bathroom at Roosevelt and nothing at all at Canyon. I will keep checking though, as I expect this to change as plans gets finalized.

wtm003 Oct 22nd, 2005 06:26 AM

I had the same problem (no rooms available)when I tried to book accomodations in the park last year at this time. I checked back in the spring and a lot of rooms opened up including rooms in the Old Faithful Inn and the OF Snow Lodge. Keep checking. I checked the website daily and also put in a weekly call to the 1-800 number. It worked out for my family.

Also, Starrsville, why was this necessary? <<<Just to point out, it was another poster that referred to - and labeled - s's opinion as a blanket statement - >>> Who cares! As you said this forum is about differing opinions. It was unfortunate that S took my opinion and Utahtea's follow-up so personally.

Anyway, mcmars I hope you have a great trip. Yellowstone is a wonderful and special place.

starrsville Oct 22nd, 2005 07:03 AM

Oops. Should have kept my mouth shut. I was just trying to support Utahtea. Did not intend to offend anyone. Sorry, wtm003.

I've stayed outside the park and taken day trips into the park. Worked just fine, but I personally prefer being in the park.

Booking "something" and then continue to call for cancellations is a good idea. I lucked into rim-side room at the Grand Canyon during spring break one year because it snowed - and folks poured out of the park. An absolutely gorgeous time to be at the GC.


keysmom Oct 22nd, 2005 07:14 AM

We had a great trip to Yellowstone and Grand Tetons this summer and stayed in the park. We were in cabins in the Canyon area that were perfectly adequate and a central location that made it easy reach to most things. I preferred to stay in one place rather than have to pack and move although I know other people prefer to move.
Click on my name for my trip report. In addition to booking lodging, you should book some dining experiences in advance. I highly recommend the Roosevelt cookout/horseback ride.

wtm003 Oct 22nd, 2005 09:23 AM

Starrsville, thanks - no offense taken.

I should have added in my previous post that to be safe I made reservations in West Yellowstone and then cancelled after I secured reservations inside the park.

RedRock Oct 30th, 2005 06:37 PM

Don't know if you have ever camped or not but with two 9 year olds this would be a good thing to do. They will keep themselves busy. A campfire and the stars out by the 1000's is really all you need. We started with our grandson at the ripe old age of 7 and nothing was ever dull. Just something to consider.

AuntAnnie Oct 30th, 2005 07:47 PM

We have been to the park 3 times and stayed in cabins and lodges within the park all three times. We LOVE to camp, but the campsites we saw at Yellowstone were kind of big fields full of people. Liked camping at other parks better. I like the historic, energetic atmosphere of the lodges and the young staff people from all over the world have added to our experiences. We like the rustic cabins at Roosevelt, the Lodge at Yellowstone Lake and Old Faithful Inn the best. Be warned that there is also an Old Faithful Lodge, which is nice too, but the Inn is the place to be in my mind. We have also tried cabins at all locations and they were always small and spotless. I think it is part of the National Park experience to do at least one lodge night. Book early; they do fill early. We saw a grizzly my last time out there, which was a lifetime goal of mine. We also stopped a t a creek and the trout were ina feeding frenzy due to some flies that had hatched and people were throwing flies to the trout and watching them eat. Cool!! Have fun!!

RedRock Oct 31st, 2005 05:13 AM

Not all the campgrounds in YS are just open fields, the two NPS CG's up in the Lamar Valley are two of our favorites. There is also a couple of very nice NF CG's located about 3 miles east of Cooke City. They have been doing a lot inprovements to the Soda Butte CG over the past two years. They are very seldom full since most want somewhere in the park along the fig 8 loop road. These are the campgrounds we make for first each time we go to the Yellowstone.


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