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What is a hostel like?
I'm traveling for neither business nor pleasure to Oregon, so travel date set in stone. Unfortunately it happens to fall during a popular time where I'm going, so hotel options are very limited. I've secured a hotel, but I'm not thrilled about it, no frills, really basic, and (important to me) no free breakfast. Other options either involve a lot of commute distance/time between hotel and family, or are priced well out of my budget.
There is a hostel opening though. In my price range, in a good distance, cheaper price, the pictures of breakfast look yummy. I'm traveling alone and pretty much need a place for my pillow and a place to shower - except I might need a quiet corner to cry from time to time, because things are stressful. The accommodations are a mixed dorm. The pictures make it look like the rooms either sleeps six (cheaper price) or sleeps four (higher price). It has a high rating on Hotels.com. What are the pros and what are the cons of a hostel? My travel date is mid-July so I need to decide fast. |
>>What are the pros and what are the cons of a hostel?<<
It 100% depends on the specific hostel. Some are great, some are OK, and some I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole. You need to tell us which one it is so we can comment. |
Forgive me, but giving my exact accommodations and the date of travel is a little scary when I'm traveling alone.
What in your experience makes a hostel great? What makes it bad? |
>>Forgive me, but giving my exact accommodations and the date of travel is a little scary when I'm traveling alone.<<
Can't help you -- it is like asking what a hotel is like without telling us which hotel . . . 'Mid July' is not a 'date' so I have no idea what you are nervous about. |
This probably won't help you much Rachel, but I've only stayed in a hostel once, and that was in Iceland. It was surprisingly good, but we had our own room, not a dorm room. It left a very good impression. No idea how a hostel in Oregon would compare though.
The pros for us were - price, not many other options available, clean, quiet, well run and a bit quirky. We'd envisioned loud, drunk backpackers, but this wasn't the case at all. The cons - shared bathroom (which turned out not to be an issue as the hostel wasn't full), tight quarters, insufficient window covering in the land of the midnight sun, poor internet and having to strip our beds when we left (although that was certainly no hardship). |
As already pointed out, it depends a lot on the hostel. Read any available reviews very carefully.
I have only stayed in hostels in New Zealand. The four person, single sex rooms were OK, the large mixed sex one was not. After the first few I switched to a private room. A lot depends on how much you value privacy, and how much peace and quiet you need for sleep. |
Check on TripAdvisor to see if it has reviews. That can be helpful in making decisions.
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Hostelz.com also has hostel reviews. They seem more accurate than Hostelworld, IMO.
I don't find breakfast to be the decider. I'd look at atmosphere and security, (party hostel or quiet?) I've used them for private rooms also, but often not cheaper than a hotel. Dorms..I don't think I'd want to go for a mixed dorm room in a "party hostel". You probably wouldn't get any sleep. |
I've stayed in a hostel 3 times in my life in the last few years and it was fine. However, I wouldn't dream of staying in a mixed dorm as I cannot imagine living in the same room with men I don't know (and some I do know). Not suggesting danger, just, you know, boy noise, etc. In an all-female dorm (4 beds) it was fine, roommates thoughtful & quiet. I didn't mind the bathroom across the hall, big enough for the number of beds/people so no wait. But if you're young maybe having men in the same room sounds more interesting than it does to me. Given the other choice you mention, I'd be happy to buy my own breakfast given the alternative, and have a room of my own.
Have you looked at Airbnb? |
I agree about not worrying about breakfast. Buy some yoghurt and OJ. Or find a nearby cafe.
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Okay. I really, really, wish you’d post the name of the hostel. I’m familiar with pretty much every hostel in Oregon. I’d be delighted to give you my opinion, but I can’t if you don’t tell me where you’re staying. We don’t know your exact dates or what you look like, so there is absolutely no way of tracking you down. Even if we wanted to. We don’t. We just want to help you. HOWEVER. In very general terms: I remember that you are a nervous traveler, and that you have a 25 year old daughter, so you’re not young. In your case I absolutely DO NOT recommend a mixed dorm. Find a small female dorm—and I mean 6 beds or less—or no dice. here’s the thing: hostels can be great. I like several of the Portland ones. But mixed dorm usually means cheapest largest option. It usually means couples traveling together if there are any women in the dorm at all. If not, it usually means you’ll be in a dorm room with just men. There’s nothing wrong with that, if you are okay with it. However: go back to the cheap thing. What do young twenty something men like to do in Portland? Drink. Stay up late and drink. Come home drunk. I’m generalizing of course. But I’m telling you that this is a pattern of behavior I’ve seen. If you plan to be out late, and you can sleep through anything, then maybe none of this will bother you. I don’t think that describes you. But if I’m in a mixed or larger dorm, I don’t bother going to bed until after midnight. Yes, all this can happen in a female dorm too. However, All female dorm increases the general average age and and decreases the likelihood your roommates will be night owl party animals. It increases your chance of sleep. i have no idea what your budget is, but if this is Portland, check out McMenamins crystal hotel. Private rooms, bathroom down hall, fantastic location, soaking pool. Mid July varies, but I think the cheapest room is 140-is. It’s awesome, or at least compared to all of the budget hotels you’ll find at that price point. |
Based on the OP's previous thread I think this may be the Bunk and Brew in Bend (seems to be the only hostel in Bend). |
Originally Posted by thursdaysd
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Based on the OP's previous thread I think this may be the Bunk and Brew in Bend (seems to be the only hostel in Bend). The only place I’ve seen a breakfast pic for Bunk and Brew is TA, and I’d like to point out that it’s one of the pictures the hostel submitted themselves. So it might have been extra pretty for the publicity. On the actual site, it says they provide waffle mix, etc. So I wouldn’t be surprised if if it’s a DIY thing. That’s been the case at most hostels I’ve stayed at. My point is keep your expectations low. It might turn out good though—they’re a newer hostel that really wants to make a name for itself. So: I’m still going to say you should go for all female or private room, Rachel. BUT. I know how expensive Bend is during the summer and if your only choices are literally a budget hotel and Bunk and Brew, I’d go with a mixed dorm there. I’d be less worried about drunken/noisy roommates there than in Portland because 1) Bend is more about the breweries than the club scene and 2) I’d guess your roommates are more likely to be outdoors enthusiasts looking for a cheap base. |
And...I just saw the bit about needing a quiet corner to cry in because things are stressful. NM. Changing my vote to NO on hostel. Or Airbnb. You 100% need a hotel room where you can lock the door and not worry about encountering anyone. |
Here is the Hostelz.com review for the above lodging. They do have female only dorm rooms, if they are available. Private rooms aren't cheap.There are some photos taken by the Hostelz.com reviewer. Note, that they also allow day visitors.
https://www.hostelz.com/hostel/34696...ic-Lucas-House |
I think one of the reviews mentioned needing to fix breakfast yourself. Appears there was a bathroom shortage and a bathhouse is being/has been built in the garden. Rather a lot of one post reviews on the site I checked. Agree entirely that a hostel, especially a small one, is no place for someone wanting privacy, unless you have a private room. |
Yeah, I went to check out the place when it first opened. The bathroom situation made it a “no” for me. When they open the bathhouse, I might reconsider. I’d expect they make bank off the day visitor thing. I don’t like it from the perspective of a guest, but as a camper, it’s certainly a service needed in Bend and one I’d probably use. |
I still think an Airbnb "private room" with attached bath could be just the thing, in my experience much nicer than a cheap hotel at half the price. I like my privacy and have happily stayed in a number of them. Read the reviews, pay particular attention to the star ratings. Look for one with some separation from the rest of the home, some even have private entrances. If you aren't signed up with the site already, do it before you need to book as your information must be confirmed before a booking can be made.
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Originally Posted by marvelousmouse
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And...I just saw the bit about needing a quiet corner to cry in because things are stressful. NM. Changing my vote to NO on hostel. Or Airbnb. You 100% need a hotel room where you can lock the door and not worry about encountering anyone. Use Priceline or Hotwire's Hot Rates to book a hotel room. Only book ones with 80% or higher customer satisfacation. Stay in a nice place that offers privacy. |
Because the purpose of this trips sounds emotionally stressful, I myself would not want to be trying out a hostel stay in a shared dorm room for the first time.
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If we're taking Bend, OR I can suggest an excellent Air BnB. Completely private.
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That would be great if that worked out, Melnq8! The main reason I would’ve opposed Airbnb in this case is that I’m wondering if any places with sufficient privacy would be in the budget she wants. Judging on past experiences, I’d say no. |
marvelousmouse - I just checked, it's booked through July, unfortunately. We paid $106 per night a few years back, looks like August rates are $133 per night (including all fees).
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Originally Posted by marvelousmouse
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The main reason I would’ve opposed Airbnb in this case is that I’m wondering if any places with sufficient privacy would be in the budget she wants. Judging on past experiences, I’d say no. |
Originally Posted by Melnq8
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marvelousmouse - I just checked, it's booked through July, unfortunately. We paid $106 per night a few years back, looks like August rates are $133 per night (including all fees).
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Yes, we walked to town although I wouldn't call it close. We're walkers though, so no worries for us.
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The site ate my reply, grr.
Thank you all for your replies and for providing basic knowledge. A couple of weeks ago I thought "hostel" was a typo autocorrect didn't catch, so I know very little. I still don't know how to pronounce it. I had not thought of the party angle. That is a consideration as I'm grumpy when unwillingly awake. My budget was up to $135ish, pre-tax, for a place with breakfast, as cheap fast food is about $10, and the irritation of looking for food on an empty stomach in a strange place first thing in the morning is worth money to me. But there's just nothing. Hotels.com says that the high 90s percent is already booked in the area. I've been checking twice a week, hoping some cancellation was posted, but I'm not finding anything. I'm not considering AirBnB as I've read some bad things in the news about it. |
Well, your average hostel goer is a 20 or 30 something who tends to get in late and get up early. Check out times for hostels are often earlier than hotels too. So although I love hostels, I do think that they’re not for people who consider sleep really important. does the hostel have a private room for your dates? If not, you could consider the four bed dorm, as long as you know that you might not get the sleep you’d prefer. Usually roommates are mostly considerate, and it is a small hostel. airbnb varies widely by location but my guess is that 99% of the news coverage does not apply in a place like bend. I’m not saying you should reconsider, but I wouldn’t let the news coverage influence the decision one way or another. |
I'm not considering AirBnB as I've read some bad things in the news about it.
That's unfortunate, as you could well be missing out on something perfect. I'd take a well researched Air BnB over a hostel (haa-stl) in a NY minute. Good luck with your search. |
If you care about sleep I would only consider the four bed female dorm, and even then I wouldn't count on getting to sleep early or staying asleep late. Plus the bathrooms are definitely not en-suite. The demographic for the Bend hostel, based on the online reviews, skews young. There is no reason you can't breakfast on yoghurt and OJ for a whole lot less than $10.
I have used AirBnb in Europe, only one of the four experiences was an unqualified success. I have gone off the whole concept as I find it unfair to other residents, either of the building or the neighborhood. Also, your budget may only be enough for a room, rather than an apartment, so you may still not get a lot of privacy. |
What am I missing? A 4-bed dorm room & bath shared by a group preferable to a private room & bath, likely furnished better, cleaner & quiet? It's moot since the OP seems intent on narrowing her options already almost nil due to budget. All well & good to eliminate Airbnb when a hotel is within means as an alternative, but I thought the point was to come up with ideas to address someone else's constraints?
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I would prefer a hostel over an Airbnb for a few reasons: hostels aren’t dependent on one host. There’s a staff. Less privacy also means people are around if something goes wrong. hostels, as businesses, have to follow fire code and health codes. There’s regulation. Resentful neighbors are much less likely. Hostels aren’t usually in residential areas. I’m not staying in someone’s personal space. i trust hostel reviews a little more—I think Airbnb reviews are inflated due to pressure to not receive a bad review as a guest. however. I do think I Rachel’s case an Airbnb makes sense, and I don’t think she’s a good candidate for a dorm at all. But as you say, moot point. |
Not sure where the OP is looking, but I just checked booking.com for mid July in Bend, and there were definitely hotel options well within the given budget with good ratings. Of course, it may not be Bend, and I didn't check for breakfast. |
it varies a lot based on dates. But mostly what I’m seeing are the no name motels. It’s a place to sleep, at least, but not worth what they’re charging. My guess is that she’s self limiting by wanting a specific location and the breakfast thing. Those cheaper motels usually don’t serve breakfast. |
You're probably right about self-limiting, she probably used a filter for "free breakfast" not realizing that an alternative is in-room coffee, microwave and refrigerator. If it is Bend, I agree she should remove that filter and book some motel rooms now (possibly two hotels due to being so full in July). Stick with those rated at least in the mid-7's or better yet 8's with a cancellation. Otherwise you'd be stuck with the worst of the worst. Don't let Hotels.com sort for you, chose prices low to high, and don't consider anything less than a 7.0
If necessary do shorter time frames because a place may be booked for the weekend but not during the week. |
Are you American? I just don't know how you could not know how to pronounce hostel, it's pronounced exactly the way it's spelled by normal English pronunciation methods, I don't know what alternative pronunciation you could come up with. It's not a long o, if that is what you are considering a possibility (not like the word host).
The disadvantages are obvious, less "nice" furniture and conditions than a hotel, and lack of privacy. MOst people would consider sleeping with 6-10 strangers in the same room a disadvantage. Advantages are it is cheaper and, if you wanted, you could meet people that way to do things with. That's what younger people like about them, but don't think that's a goal of yours. Many hostels do NOT allow you to be in them in the middle of the day, either. Some hostels even have private rooms, but you obviously aren't picking those. Forget a quiet corner to cry. I don't understand why breakfast in so important, but I don't like to eat early in the morning. I am not clear on what the goal here is, if you wanted to eat breakfast cheaply, you could do it in a hotel if you had one with a frig (and add a microwave on top of that, even easier, if you had to have hot food for some reason). |
I see that she does already have something booked but was wondering if the hostel would be better.
I wouldn't have a problem with an Airbnb but you do need to be savvy enough to read the reviews and it doesn't sound like this poster has much travel experience. Airbnb is an advertising platform, and I think from recent postings better than VRBO and Home Away. Have not had any problem using them, about half a dozen times. I've had a few great experiences in Airbnbs (private entrance/ exclusive use ones) but don't really enjoy the shared bathroom concept which can be found in hostels, regular B&Bs (most of which advertise in Airbnb now anyways), and even a few "hotels" and guest houses overseas. |
If you find a hotel you like on hotels dot com or booking dot com CALL the hotel directly. Properties typically do not issue all their rooms to 3rd-party websites like those. They hold some back for their own reservations.
Or keep the hotel you already have reserved and just pick up something to eat in the morning from the grocery store the day before. Take your own hot pot or coil to make tea or instant coffee. Eat a piece of fruit and granola bar. Basing this on a "free breakfast" is a HUGE unnecessary limitation. |
While I agree that having a place that includes a "free breakfast" is a limitation, I think we know from her other post that rachel is not a frequent traveler and has her own preferences. So be it. She's legitimately reaching out for help, and many of the responses are in fact trying to give her helpful info.
I don't think commenting on how not knowing how a word is pronounced is helpful. Some of the comments above are downright derogatory, snooty, and unnecessary. |
Depending on which motel you have already booked (I know you don't want to tell us which one it is) you may actually have a microwave and even a small fridge so you can make your own breakfasts. IME -- budget properties are much more likely to provide basic cooking facilities than posh ones, because they get a lot of guests who are traveling with families and on tight budgets.
It really would help if you would tell us where you booked -- no one is going to track you down - and especially if you don't divulge your exact dates. |
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