Polk and VanNess run parallel to each other. What is the cross street (makes a HUGE difference).

Oops, make that Post, not Polk. Sorry :(

Someone told me it's 'just an okay area, not a good location, nor convenient to anything'

I found a beautiful luxury condo in Twin Peaks - how is that as a location? It is supposedly on the Muni Line?

Safe, but an un-exciting area. As the name implies, it is in a very steep section of the city. You won't be walking to anyplace interesting. If the condo has views - they will probably be great if it is not foggy - which it probably won't be in October. I have an old Muni map, and it looks like it does not have very good public transportation. You'll have at least 1 line change for going almost anywhere tourists want to go.

If I were a tourist, I would not stay there. We lived just "below" Twin Peaks in the Noe Valley for 7 years.

Stu Dudley

4Stu, thanks. It doesn't sound too convenient. I found 4 more private rentals -
1.In the Castro between Church and 16th St;
2. Deboce Triangle between market, Duboce & Castro Street,
3. Noe Vally one block east of Church Street
4. I'm not sure of the area but it is bounded by Sutter, Pierce, Post and Steiner Streets. I'm getting too much info!

In the Castro an area that I would want to stay in?

What street is the Noe Valley property on? If it's anywhere close to 24th Street, that's where I would stay, although the Duboce Triangle and Castro locations would be fine, too.

I lived ON Twin Peaks before I moved to Noe Valley. I loved it as a place to live, but I also wouldn't want to stay there as a tourist. I can't "place" the block where the 4th property is.

>>1.In the Castro between Church and 16th St;<<

Those streets are perpendicular to each other - so I don't know what "between" is. If it's on the corner of Castro & 16th, then that's a very good location for walking to shops, restaurants, activities - as long as you know that it is close to "ground zero" of the "gay" area of The City. Great transportation location.

Like SF mentioned - "where" east Church in the Noe Valley (what "numbered" street). Most of Church is very nice - and directly on the J-Church line - which takes you downtown very quickly. I took the J-Church to work most every day. Lots of restaurants/cafes/shops all along Church. From Duboce to about 18th, you're sorta in the gay/Castro area where it's quite "active" . From 18th to around 20th, it is a little more sedate. On Dolores Park (between 18th & 20th) lots of people spend Sundays just sunning in the park, picnicking, enjoying a lazy day, ice cream at Bi-Rite, playing tennis, cafe lingering, etc. 20th to 22rd is residential. From 22nd to 30th you get to the Noe Valley where there are lots of cafes, restaurants, shops on 30th & 24th, some very nice restaurnats - my favorite area of San Francisco.

Market/Deboce/Castro is a very nice area with some really interesting tree-shaded streets and some Victorian houses - but still on the fringes of the Castro/Gay area - if that is a factor for you. I really like that region. Good transportation.

Stu Dudley

>> Noe Valley where there are lots of cafes, restaurants, shops on 30th & 24th, <,

On Church & 24th.

Stu Dudley

Susie~I'd say look closer @ the rental # 1 & 3.

Hi Stu & SF:

So far, the only reply I've received was for the condo in the Mission District, 1/2 block from Dolores Park on 20th Street. What do you think of that location? I am waiting to hear from the other possible rentals.

Regarding #4 above, I found out it is 'close to Filmore" for whatever that tells you.

As far as the Castro, we have absolutely no problem being in a gay area - I only care about a safe, convenient to transit, clean area.

I can't thank you enough for taking the time to walk me thru this...

Another of the rentals just got back to me - it is located on Elizabeth Street around the corner from 24th Street in Noe Valley - is this good?

Again, many thanks!

susie, Elizabeth is a GREAT location!! Right in the heart of Noe Valley, which is a super neighborhood (if you look on the map, I used to live on Sanchez St. between Day and 30th). I'd grab it if the actual rental looks good.

Elizabeth Street is a great location. You are a block off the main drag so noise will not be such an issue. The street car is very close and will transport you all over the city.(via various lines). 24th Street is a great neighborhood filled with restaurants and the like. You will be in close proximity to both the Mission and the Castro districts.

Church and 16th could be noisy.

sf7307~I lived on Duncan between Church & Sanchez.

I lived on Jersey between Castro & Diamond in the Noe valley.

If it is west of Douglass, there will be some hills involved, & a little farther from the J-Church line - but it's still a good location. Better than the others you've found. Look for my Noe Valley walk and also the Noe Valley stairway walk in this post.

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...1&tid=35129049

Grab the Noe Valley place immediatly.

Stu Dudley

:( Stu, the owners got back to me to tell me the Noe Valley rental was unavailable - so I guess my decision it to reschedule my trip for another time when I would be able to stay in the Noe Valley area.

However, an owner did get back to me regarding their rental - it is on 20th Street between Dolores and Guerrero - on the J Church Muni Line. I am still awaiting replies from two others, the Deboce Triangle site and the one bordered by 18th & 20th & Church & Dolores. Should I jump on the rental on 20th between Dolores & Guerrero - or is it worth it to re-plan the trip for a time I could get a rental in Noe Valley? Thanks, thanks, thanks,
Sue

also, there is availability on 18th Street at Dolores Park?

>>and the one bordered by 18th & 20th & Church & Dolores.<<

That can't be - 100% of the area within this square is occupied by Dolores Park. Check your map. I'll assume it's close to this area.


The property above and the and 20th st property are both in good locations. It's on the fringe of the Mission district, but almost entirely residential until you get closer to Guerrero & to the east. We were there today getting a bi-rite ice cream (18th st). Both are too far away from the Noe Valley to walk there (Noe Valley) regularily (lots of hills). There are many restaurants in the Mission which are within walking distance of the Dolores places (no hills). The Mission is a little "scruftier" than the Noe Valley - but many "hipsters" might prefer it over the Noe Valley.

I would guess that most visitors would prefer the Noe Valley over the Dolores areas - but perhaps not 100%. The Noe Valley is a little more sedate than the Mission. On Sat night, the Mission is very active - much more so than the Noe Valley. We're going to a restaurant in the Mission this Sat night.

Stu Dudley

Hi Stu: I'm really disappointed about the Noe Valley rental. As far as the Mission being very active on a Saturday night - I don't think we'll be doing too much night-lifeing, because if we're up and out early, and out all day going, I'm thinking after a nice dinner somewhere, we'll be ready to kick back and relax for the next days outing.

In any event, if you want to see what I'm talking about, go to www.homeaway.com, and put in location #243418. For your own info, it's a really good site for renting directly from owners. My sister has used it many times with great success.

There are also a few nice looking rentals in Pacific Heights...

Here are some B&B listings in the Noe Valley

http://www.noevalleyvoice.com/2006/June/Gues.html

Stu Dudley