I agree with Owen too. <BR><BR>joebob, behave yourself! I like your spicy posts, but get off Patrick's case. It's getting old. He, like you, offers lots of helpful info. We don't want to lose either of you!

OliveOyl, I have always enjoyed your comments and travel information and I think you are right on with your above comments. Personally, I didn't care one way or the other about registration, but although I could tolerate and even sometimes enjoy the humourous troll postings, I do feel that ones like the SF basher were feed out a lot a false info, and then giving them creditability by agreeing with them under several different names. That is the type of person we should blame rather than Fodor's

Joan that is it, I will now leave Patrick alone. <BR><BR>I am amazed at the speed at which my posts are being deleted. It takes 15 minutes to actually get something posted and then within 5 minutes the post is deleted. I think Patrick has a special hotline to the deletion war room at fodors. my most recent posts have been very tame and are still being deleted, and I have been banned 3 times now. Now I just post for the fun of seeing how long it takes to get banned or deleted.

Just for the record, joebob, I have not contacted Fodor's;I got an email from a regular poster who said she had. I am ignoring you as I have never figured out why your hatred for me is so great that you feel inclined to slam everything I say.<BR>You are the only person in the world who could have turned my offer to make a call to a San Francisco hotel for a UK visitor to this country into an accusation of something vile. You clearly will never know what it is to just be nice, and I do feel sorry for you.<BR>Actually I don't even know what your post here was, and had just been trying to ask Joan what she was talking about, but my post would not go through once again, and then your post above appeared, so I gather you made one that was already deleted.<BR><BR>Truce, OK? Whether you believe it or not, my posts here are only meant to be helpful. I hope that in the future if you find them offensive you email me directly, since you obviously have my email address.

Regarding posts taking a few shots, I found that if I take a 'long time' in typing, preparing etc.. the post doesn't work. I compose in Word, then Copy / Paste. If the post is quick (from clicking to reply to Post My Reply), then it seems to be ok.

Patrick- I should have stated in my last post that I was going to leave you alone, assuming you didn't come back and comment on my post. but you just couldn't let it die, you just had to come back and rehash the entire series of posts. My hatred for you does not exist, it is my annoyance with you that does. If you remember how this started, it started when you slammed one of my posts, which had nothing in it but a statement saying how boring the site had become, had it not been for that I never even would have noticed that you existed. <BR> <BR><BR>Here is what I will do, I will ignore your last post (except for the truce part)and let that commentary go. <BR><BR>A truce is offered if you want it.

joebob you have been deleted 3 times for a reason. You curse and make bigoted remarks. Joan must have missed those. I have seen you attack innocent people over and over. Either you will behave kindly or you will get booted again. That simple. Eventually you will run out of email addresses. Shape up or ship out. I only know you will now attack me but I am tired of reading your nasty remarks to innocent people.

Be careful, nataliemm, joebob will get back at you as he does others. As he has just explained, his anger with Patrick was because he resented Patrick disagreeing with his post. It's fine for joebob to say what he wants, but nobody should disagree with what he says or he will take revenge. I remember the post he is talking about very well as I had commented on it as well. While joebob was insulting one poster for using exaggeration he himself was exaggerating about how the entire list of messages was nothing but Hawaii and Key West posts. When Patrick and the other poster dared to contradict him (nicely at first) and point out that was not true, he started insulting and resorting to name calling.<BR>So the solution is, joebob is allowed to say what he wants, but nobody is allowed to disagree with him. That must be his rule. And now, I suppose I will be the new result of his anger.

No anger here. Just LOTS of frustration. This site used to be so easy, fun, and fast. Now it sometimes doesn't work at all or is extremely slow. I might give it a few more days to see if fodors can get there act together. If not I won't be back. I'm sure there are better sites if I just looked.

You should all wise up and act like adults. Face the facts: this site is OVER and it's silly to try to recreate what was once very vibrant, fun, informative. <BR><BR>

You should all wise up and act like adults. Face the facts: this site is OVER and it's silly to try to recreate what was once very vibrant, fun, informative.<BR><BR>Not to mention that half the time this site just plain doesn't work. <BR><BR>

I miss Blenroth and Duh! the most. Are they out there under new,assumed names? I could always count on Blenroth making a remark about farts or duh! insulting someones IQ.

I've missed seeing his curses, but not the attacks...nor the helpful information joebob has posted either (gotta tell you though, Hyatt Westshore changed names the beginning of January, joebob--Grand Hyatt Tampa Bay--still has the same meal you referred to on the train station thread) and there *has* been good information as well. But you remind me of a guy I went to school with. Joel was a cute, red-headed, loveable guy with a painful stutter...he also had a great sense of humor and was a lot of fun, but darned, Joel couldn't help himself to save his soul!! He was like the metal rod in a thunderstorm..and for some reason he loved that role, even though he looked genuinely abashed when lightning struck in the form of one of the killjoy teachers, as it inevitably did, 2 or 3 times a week. I couldn't help but wonder if it didn't it hurt to keep getting smacked in the head that way! Your next incarnation, just sign in as Lightning Arrester Joel...we'll know who it is. :&gt; Really...stick around, please, but maybe stop wearing spikes when you're out on the golf course in a storm??

Fodors folks - please be patient because I know things will pick up and get very interesting. We will be getting more stimulating, informative travel tips and advice than ever before and won't have to put up with the previous troll posts that were often insulting and hurtful.<BR><BR>I believe the problem is twofold right now: I'm having an incredibly difficult time signing in. The system does not recognize my password. This is the 5th or 6th time I've had to have Fodors send me a new password. It works the first time and then after that goes kaput. So if other people are having the same problem, they're not going to post as much.<BR><BR>Secondly, any new system (even registration which is standard on many sites) will meet with resistance. That will change in the long run. Eventually people who have something to ask or offer travel advice and who receive a positive response and good information will tell their friends and relatives about this great site. Trust me on this one.<BR><BR>Let's forget about some of the 'fun' troll posts because IMO they were far and few between. The troll posts were more of the insulting kind and were so unrelated to food, lodging, entertainment and travel. Let's move on from the trolls.<BR><BR>