NorthwestMale: ok, I'll stay tuned. :)

Saturday, I saw various trolleys with 9, 3, zero, and approximately 10 patrons.

Next weekend will be the acid test.

Thursday Seattle Green Trolley report:

<b>Zero, 4, and 2</b> passengers on the three runs I happened to see today.

(maybe the thing will be <I><b>dead</b></I> by the first week in September) (I have a feeling we'll know <I>a lot more</I> come Tuesday May 28)

nwMale: sounds like it's dead already! :)

Friday and Saturday (of Mem. Day weekend) trolley reports:


Friday, saw runs with 1, 1, 2, 4, 7, 12


Saturday, saw runs with 0, 0, 2, 6, 11


<I>And don't even get me started on the silly-seeming <b>ticket booth</b> in a parking lot on Pike between 2nd and 3rd. I love how the <b>("people")</b> who conceived this idea are so self-conscious that they conceal the outrageous cost from almost every angle.</I>

Monday trolley report (LOL)

Today, on a dreary, drizzly, par-for-Seattle sort of Holiday, the bus may have had its best day yet.

Runs with

10-8-7-9-3 customers strewn throughout the early part of the day.

(contrast that to 16 to 20 to jam-packed on the <I>Duck Tour</I>, which retails for $28 for adults, <b>vs. $49 plus</b> per person for the <I>Emerald City Trolley</I> )

So that was the holiday weekend - heaven knows what some Tuesday in July may hold in store (shrug)

NWMale - sounds like
the Metro is the way to go

More Emerald City Trolley data:

Thursday saw runs with 2-8-8-7 passengers

Friday saw runs with 6-7-2-7-6 passengers

Saturday saw runs with 4-3-4-10-4-8 passengers

(all this while the <I>Duck Tour</I> is crammed with 25-30 people on several runs during an average day)


(now exactly none of my thoughts/observations consider the chance that there could be repeat customers on any of those runs, so that should be recognized as a possibility)

Maybe they should have a weekend where they run a $20 special (for the same deal) to see how much more ridership they would know at that price.

NWMale: or better yet, discontinue the service. :)

Emerald City Trolley up-date.

At 4:25 p.m. on a beautiful, sunny Sunday afternoon (June 2) I saw the trolley at 4th and Pike while I was waiting for a bus. On the trolley were eight passengers, a driver, and a young woman with a microphone whom, I presume, was providing a narration.

During the ten minutes I waited for my bus, three Duck Tours passed 4th and Pike. The first two were filled to capacity and the third vehicle had two unsold seats.

Duck Tours 3-Emerald Trolley 0

HTtY

If they groupon this thing, you may see it catch on.

Here's the best data YET on the <I>(ill-fated?)</I> <b>Emerald City Trolley</b>:

Monday... charting every run from 9:00am through 2:00pm:

The runs had

<b>1 </b> (and I couldn't even be sure that wasn't the guide)
<b>0
1
0
????? </b> (stepped away and missed one)
<b>2
0
0
7
2</b>

paying customers.


All from the same exact spot, charting 9 of the first 10 runs of the day. Admittedly more people should be around on, say, the first Monday in August than were around on the first Monday in June, <I>but still</I>...


I also tallied 4 Duck Tour (boats) during the same window of time:

25
17
8
16


The MTR Western group behind this debacle must be very satisfied.

I wonder who is the one person who <I>liked</I> <b>Seattle Tour & Trolley Company</b> on <I>Facebook</I>


<I><b>"About Us:</b></I>

Step foot onto Seattle’s newest attraction – <b>The Gem</b>. A hop-on, hop-off, guided Trolley tour, with multiple routes uniting the best of what Seattle has to offer from attractions, parks and the unique sights and sounds in and around the city". (Pay your <b>$49</b> prior to boarding)


PS - yeah, perhaps <b><I>Groupon</I></b> and the Emerald City Trolley can <I>expire</I> together at the rate both are going. Groupon's stock having dropped nearly 75% of its value since first public offering.

I hear you. But I was referring to any of these flash sites, and not all of them are going under. Sorry I did not make that more clear.

The Trolley Data (still):

Thursday June 6:

6-2-0-2-6-9

Friday

0-3-3-6-2-2

Saturday (very busy downtown w/tourists & Yankees' fans)

3-4-10-8-2

Extending my trolley obsession:

A Monday: 2-4-6-3-9-9 riders on various runs, passing by the same spot.

A Thursday: 3-10-2-5-14-5

A Friday: 6-7-6-5-0-2

A Saturday: 0-0-14-6-9-5-2


** All of this while most of the Duck Tour crafts have 20-30 people each time they pass


<I>I guess, what I'd really like to see, are the same numbers for the same trolley <b>IF they cut the price to $25</b> (down from the present <b>49.28 including tax</b>.</I>

Some more accumulated data for the Green Trolley:

Weekday sightings with: <b>

1,0,2,0,5,6,6,11,4

6,19,12,5,6,11,4

6,9,0,16,3,7,7

4,7,5,16,15,12</b>


and a <b>Saturday</b> with:

<b>2,0,5,18,11,23,26</b>


(in all fairness, some of those counts could be duplicate riders, each having purchased a 2-day pass)


So it seems to thrive on that mentality that brought on huge taxes on rental cars (particularly at airports): <I><b>Just {take} the tourists for anything you can get from them</b></I>. It isn't like they can vote locally anyway (the latter pertaining more to airport taxes, and not to the Green Trolley)


Who knows? Maybe Metro will observe that they too could scalp people for much higher fares, and the anticipated $60 Million budget shortfall may be offset in its entirety.

Once the free ride zone left, the worth of transit around the downtown core needed to be re-established after 30+ years. According to The Green Trolley, that worth is now "$45 plus tax". Based on that new fare structure, Metro should easily solve its budget crisis.

NorthwestMale,

You totally hijacked this persons thread with your "trolley obsession." I'd be pissed if I was the one that started it.

You seem quite obsessed with seeing this company go down.

Just sayin'.

In case you haven't read forum guidelines recently, they include that we are to “refrain from personal attacks on other posters,” which includes making “critical comments” about them.

The trolley discussion began on May 11, and NWMale didn't start it.

HTtY

But why not start your own thread to discuss your (self admitted) "obsession"? Why hi-jack someone elses?

Why not chase a kid down, shoot him in the chest and claim self-defense?