SAFETY IN NYC?????
 

We read travel books and thay all tell us, put your money in your shoes, don't walk through central park at night... Are we to be worried? Safety tips?

New York is the safest big city in the United States. Twenty years ago it was dangerous, but not now.

That said, no one can assure another's safery. And one should always have their wits about them as in any big city. Personally I would still not walk through Central Park at night, but the surroundings area are extremely safe.

Women should never leave their bags on the back of a chair in a public place but seeing a crime is not common occurrence.

The subways are very safe and crowded in mid-town almost all of the time. On top of that we probably have the best undercover cops who are often on the trains.

Since 9/11, the effort to stop terrorists has also stopped criminals. And fair minded police officials acknowledge that NYC has the best anti-terrorists units in the country including the FBI and CIA.

While I probably still wouldn't walk through Central Park at night, it's actually the safest police precinct in all of NYC in terms of the number of reported crimes. And a lot of people cut through the park after work, or ride their bikes through, or jog at all hours.

NYC is as safe as any big city in the world, but there is obviously still crime. Most crime is crime of opportunity. If you do certain things such as walk around distracted with a wallet in your back pocket, you are more likely to become a victim of a pickpocket. If you are walking around drunk you are more likely to become the victim of a mugger. Violent crime, especially in Manhattan, is still relatively rare (especially against tourists), but it does happen. I almost always walk home after the theater, down quiet dark streets and don't give it a thought.

If there are travel books out that note that you should carry your money in your shoes in NYC - that is an indication that the writer of that book may not know too much about any aspect of visiting this town. Utter nonsense. Anyway - the big danger of walking in crowded areas like Times Square is being pushed off the sidewalk by the hordes of tourists and clusters of them who block intersections. I would not recommend walking in Central Park at night - but who would want to, anyway? Although I was surprised to see a number of dog walkers entering the park after dark and they seem to do that on a regular basis.

Would you mind sharing the name, publisher and the publication date of one of those books. I find this fascinating.

I felt very safe there on a trip there a couple of weeks ago. I was with my daughter and took the subway, walked around after the theatre, carried a regular purse that was not hid under my jacket, etc...

Like the others, I would not walk in Central Park after dark.
Always be aware of your surroundings and use good judgment - of course that is wherever you happen to be.

You will be pleasantly surprized when you arrive!! Have fun!!

What year was your travel book published? 1979?

Putting your money in your shoes is the silliest thing I've ever heard of.

NYC is probably the safest city in the United States.

Just don't act like a doofus and you'll be fine.

True story, I heard it from the guy who did it:

A guy was visiting his friend in Manhattan; he had to sleep on the floor in the hallway because space was tight, and around 3am he couldn't sleep and decided to get up and take a walk. In Central Park. He saw a group of people standing around in the shadows talking, so he decided to walk up and join them. There was a silence in the group as he approached and just stood there. Then somebody asked, ``You're not from around here, are you?''. He replied that that was so. So the person said, ``Go away.'' So he did. Unharmed.

Putting money in your shoes is a ridiculous idea. I would stop using that guidebook immediately!

Seriously, since (I know from your other posts) you are on a long cross-country trip, I would consider using a normal money belt under your clothes, or something along those lines.

Money in your shoes? Ouch! Use a pocket book or wallet like the rest of us. Lived here all my life. Money in shoes. That's a new one.

LOL picturing 8 million people who use their shoes instead of wallets.

Another quaint aspect of that advice is the implication that ANYBODY carries a significant amount of cash anymore. We all use plastic! Over a recent long weekend in NYC, I probably spent about $30 in actual cash.

I felt safer in NYC than I do on the streets of my hometown.
Of course you should not walk in Central Park at night and of course you should be mindful. The beauty of NYC is that it never seems to sleep. There are always people on the streets.
I would not travel on Madison Avenue at night..that was the one time I was a bit scared. It's empty.

Safety is what you mae it.

No - I would not walk alone through Cenral Park at 3 am (earlier eveing is fine). Nor would I walk alone down a dark alley or hang out around the docks.

But, NYC is safer than any other large city in the country. All regular tourist areas are safe (but do keep an eye on your belongings - as in don;t let go of anything)and we routinely ride the subway in the evening. (We don't take later than 12 or so, since they run less often and a cab is much fster - but they're still safe in Manhattan.)

But - if you drink more than you can hold and wander around alone, walk off and leave your bag on a table or chair in a club or restaurant - or don't pay attention to what's going on behind you - you can suffer losses. Just like anyplace else in the world.

The more I think about this the dumber it is. How hard would it be to knock someone down and steal their shoes if the wild, wild streets of NYC were actually brimming with criminals?

The only time I’ve ever seen or heard of money in shoes is kids at an amusement park who are old enough to walk around a bit without their parents and are given money to buy a snack or drink.

Years ago when things were bad in NY people kept money everywhere but in their pockets and wallet. I never put money in my wallet, which started 45 years ago.

It is a habit.

Visitors are always surprised how many people are on the streets on all hours of the night.

I honestly don't know the books name/author or anything... been hunting down so much info lately, can't remember, sorry, will let you know if I come across it again:(

Many of you spoke of rooms for $35 in NYC... well I can't find them, no decent places at least. I have been surfing the net all day, always checking it out with trip advisor of course, learnt something:)Please tell me where you get these "prices"

Must add, to those of you who tried to help me get to the airport, I came across a website www.a2btransfers.com They quoted me $40.60 for 2 of us from JFK-Manhattan and $40.60 from Manhattan-EWR. Quite good hey? Best arranged pick up for EWR only was $81

I haven't heard anyone here specifically mention rooms for $35, but I may have heard (over at TripAdvisor, not here) mention of hostels around that price. I think.

I would not use anything from the NY area airports to your hotel which involves dropping off other passengers. If this is case with this company, forget it.

My previous topic was full of it... you could go check. About the transfers, I will chat with them tomorrow, 11:11pm now, going to bed! We had elections today, so everyhing was closed, could not phone.

Manhattan is generally fine during daylight hours. At night (especially late), it's wise to avoid walking through parks, though that's true in all US and several European cities. In a few areas late at night (Lower East Side, Meat Packing District, Alphabet City east of the East Village, and several places above about 96th Street), it's a good idea to stick to main streets, know where you're going, and walk with purpose without dawdling. Taking the subway after about midnight is often not the best option unless you're part of a crowd leaving a baseball game or similar event -- taking a cab is usually wisest after this hour.

That being said, there's no need to get drastic hiding money in your shoe and similar nonsense. If you're really, truly concerned, keeping valuables and extra cash in a discreet money belt hidden under your clothes or in a hotel safe is more than enough, but that's probably not a bad idea anywhere you travel.

New York is in fact one of the safer large cities in the US. In general, just use common sense as you would in any urban area.

$35 a night hotel rooms in New York City????????

OK I went and read the other thread. One person mentioned a *hostel* that is $40 per person for a bunk bed.

Airport to your hotel - just grab a taxi at the airport. There's a set price. (Plus give a 15-20% tip.)

I shudder to think what $35 would get - I spent that much 20 years ago for a hostel in Switzerland not NYC...

Good Luck with that. I am sure you will find soemthing with the help of Fodorites.

I'm sorry but I really think there is a misunderstanding about ANY place to sleep for only $35 a night in NYC. Now that IS one thing that might actually NOT be safe!!

"Many of you spoke of rooms for $35 in NYC... well I can't find them, no decent places at least."

Huh? Many? Where? I have never seen such posts, what are you talking about?

Apropos of the "Shoe" thing. In the documentary "The Out of Towners" didnt Jack Lemmon have his shoes stolen in Central Park? Beware.

A bunkbed room at the Pod Hotel can be had for as little as $139 before taxes (this is with a shared bath). I think if you search, you may find a room in NYC for $99 to $129 per night not including taxes if you are willing to stay at a hotel like the Comfort Inn Long Island City, which is in Queens 2 blocks for a major subway station (though an otherwise unexceptional neighborhood).

You can get any car service to or from Newark for $45 to $48 plus $10 in tolls plus $8 tip. That $40 car service doesn't include the toll or tip. If you use Dial 7 or Carmel car service, they are both realiable and known. I don't know the service you are talking about, but you can get into Manhattan for $7 each by using the Airtrain and subway combination. That is as cheap as an airport transfer in NYC can get.

Re: airport transfers...

How many bags do you have and how heavy? It's pretty easy to take the train from EWR to Manhattan. I think it's around $15. You take the airtrain from EWR to NJ Transit and then a train that ends at Penn Station in NYC.

There's also a train from JFK to the NYC subway. Depending on how many people you have with you, the cabs may not be that bad. It's a $45 flat rate plus tolls (and tip) from JFK to anywhere in Manhattan.

Also, I agree with everyone else who says that you don't need to put money in your shoes. Just practice common sense safety (don't walk around with your bag hanging open or wallet hanging out of your pocket, etc) and you'll be fine.

The thought of a hotel room in Manhattan for $35 my be the most frightening thing I've ever read about NYC.

Check The Jane Hotel. Rooms with shared bath for under $100.

Doug, as we know hotel rates vary a lot by travel dates. Last month I stayed at the Red Roof Inn, part of the Apple Core group, for $135 per night for a lovely room for two people with a king-size bed and, of course, a private bath as well as free breakfast and WiFi and other comforts. I would encourage visitors to do plenty of research into these hotels, and Priceline, before settling for a bottom-rung accommodation like the Pod's shared-bath bunkbeds.

Maybe that rate was $35 PER HOUR.

There are a couple of reliable hostels that go for $35-$40 per bed per night (plus locker for your belongings) in a dorm room with 5 or 7 other people. (Check out Hosteling International.)

There are NO hotels in NYC for $35. Many garages will charge $40 or more to park your car overnight.

My brother in law grew up in the Bronx, son of an NYC cop, When he lived there 30-35 years ago, the place was a mess. Last year he took his two 20 something daughters to Manhattan. He was amazed that he could let them go alone to Times Square without feeling they were in danger.

Hi all... I must have misunderstood the prices of lodging and got all mixed up with all my topics. To be honest, I really do not know what is a reasonable price for a room for a night. From what I can gather, I will be able to find something reasonable and decent, no frills etc, for $100-$150 per night? Is that correct? If I am wrong, please give me some guidelines.

I am not scared of NYC anymore. I realise that many people say things about countries which aren't true at all. I had a real laugh when I went to see the questions people asked about South Africa, where I live. The one topic was about the safety of our food. The travel agent in europe told this lady that she is not to eat any fruits and vegatable, drink our water and be extremely carefull of our restaurants. Shame, this lady is actually booked into ine of our top hotel groups in our country, but scared to stay there and scared to eat the food. How ironic! We are farmers, and all our best fruit, approx 89% of our produce, is shipped to the EU, and now she is scared to eat our food. When she is at home, she eats our fruit!

Another topic was Malaria... A lady wanted to come but wanted some malaria advise... some other person, told her only our big cities don't have malaria, well actually only 10% of our whole country does have malaria maybe, in summer, and our government sparya high risk malaria places twice a year for malaria, and then this person told her us locals treat ourselves when we get sick, as we know what to use because, I am assuming roots of plants etc, where actually, we just go for a REAL bloodtest, at a REAL LABORATORY, WITH REAL DOCTORS And we actually have brilliant Doctors, just a pitty they leave to countries such as Canada and England, who pay them lots more money!

Someone once asked me if I have lions and elephants in my garden. People really have a wrong idea of our country.

Just to illustrate how some people with no clue, actually give such stupid advise!:)

Horrible West End Studio's charged $53.5, all taxes included for a doubel bed with shared bath, per night. I think this is where I had my mind set on $35 per person per night.

One key point to remember is that many places like hostels will give you a price PER PERSON, whereas regular hotels are priced per room. So if you're paying $40 per person at the Pod or a hostel, then that's really $80 per night that you should use as a basis for comparison. And don't forget to factor-in other considerations like breakfast.

You can compare prices at a wide variety of hotels that are available for your dates on www.quikbook.com. Prices fluctuate wildly depending on the date and demand.

I feel sorry for the poor clerk that has to handle the money that came out of your shoes!

I loved NYC and never felt unsafe there.