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Marie Feb 12th, 2001 01:36 PM

"unorganized" drives me up the wall. <BR> <BR>We have two villages in our area that give outsiders fits. One is Leicester (we pronounce is Lester), the other is Chili (we pronounce it chileye)

Scorch Feb 12th, 2001 02:02 PM

How many "Paris's" are there in the country (none pronunced - sic - Paree)? What about Lima (Lye-ma) Ohio, and Berlin (BURRlin) Conn.? <BR> <BR>Glad we got Gloucester (GLOSSter -- or rather GLOSS-tah) right, but don't ever forget Worcester (WUSStah) or Billerica (Bill RICKer). <BR> <BR>And what about the street names in Tchicagah -- Mozart (MOZE art), Goethe (Goe-thee), and DeVON? <BR> <BR>

Webster Feb 12th, 2001 06:11 PM

To Merriam: <BR>My Merriam Webster 10th edition dictionary has "coronate" smack in the middle of page 259. <BR> <BR>And to "whatbothersme": <BR>"irregardless" is most definitely a word...it's just a redundant form of "regardless" (not unlike "flammable" and "inflammable", which mean the same thing). <BR>In fact, the definition in Webster's specifically states that many people's reaction upon hearing the word "irregardless" is, "That's not a word". To which Webster replies, "It most definitely is a word". <BR> <BR>Sorry for being an anal retentive English freak. <BR>

Merriam Feb 13th, 2001 05:12 AM

Webster: I want a divorce. You obviously planted those words ("coronate" and "irregardless") in the 10th ed. when I wasn't looking, just to make a fool of me at parties! I'm sick of this more-anal-than-thou competition. <BR> <BR>It all started when I let you put your name first, even though we both know the alphabet doesn't run in that direction, just because "O.E.D." is contra-alphabetic. I suppose you've been seeing Random House behind my back. <BR>Well, that does it. I'm putting "lipocephalic" into the next edition, along with "gluto-osculatory"!

L Feb 13th, 2001 05:36 AM

Lisa, shame on you - lol. I know exactly what you were thinking regarding nuclear - our former Prez. from Plains, Ga. He is still destroying that word, but a wonderful man all the same. I wish humanity had more like him.

ncgrrl Feb 13th, 2001 06:05 AM

Scorch, how do you say Tchicagah? <BR> <BR>Around here is a town named Mebane. Outsiders say Me-BANE while you should say MEB-ann. <BR> <BR>And don't forget Duke men's basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski (sha-SHEV-ski).

lisa Feb 13th, 2001 08:02 AM

On the pronunciation of place names, one of my favorites is Beaufort, NC and Beaufort, SC. One is BYOO-fert, and the other is BOH-fert (I can never remember which is which though).

ncgrrl Feb 13th, 2001 11:21 AM

BO-FORT is NC <BR> <BR>BOO-FERT is SC. I think if you say the "e" "a" and "u" separately but close together you get the right sound.

L Feb 13th, 2001 11:35 AM

BYOO for SC. Pronounced like Byou. It helps to be southern, believe me. Bar-b-que. We have a Buford Rd. going N out of Atlanta - the "u"'s are similar. The NC is like the Scale, if you know Dylan's song about changing times ... and the weathermen. And BYOO, like your dad's Roadmaster Buick from the 50's. Ciao.

pamahoney Feb 13th, 2001 12:03 PM

While making fun of awkward pronunciations is truly one of life's most rewarding occupations, the reality is that we shouldn't get too caught up in the "rules." Though English rarely does so, many other languages actually change proper names to fit into their own pronunciation. French is notorious for this - "Leonard de Vinci" for Leonardo da Vinci, Michelange for "Michaelangelo"... to name only a couple in an Italian vein. At the height of the Leonardo di Caprio craze, after I had been living in Paris for a while, I began calling the aforementioned actor "Leonard de Capri." The French were not amused.

Webster Feb 13th, 2001 12:05 PM

Dearest Merriam: <BR>I realize I may have been remiss in not having told you before, but I love your lipocephalism, it's one of your unique and endearing qualities....so please don't leave me right before Valentine's Day. (Besides, I don't need the aggravation of alimony payments while the market is languishing). I forgive you...just promise me you're not hiding any neologistic tendencies or latent agrammatistic genes in your heritage, OK? (I'm not a doctor on TV, I just play one in real life).

Scorch Feb 13th, 2001 03:58 PM

Tchicagah = Chicago -- accent on 2nd syllable. I bin to Mebbin, too! NCgirl, do you live near Rawlih-Durm?

Merriam Feb 14th, 2001 03:57 AM

Dear Webster, <BR> <BR>Ah, a roseate cardioid to you this day. <BR> <BR>I take everything back -- and how very gallant of you to misuse "aggravation" within the parentheses! In return I shall confess to being a closet neologist at times. It keeps the lipocephalism in check. <BR> <BR>But I shall never match those sweet souls who can think up new words in a heartbeat (continuing 2/14 theme here). I have heard: "voicetrous" (too loud and active); "rubbage" (trash or trash cans = balderdash); and "shriddled" (something that happened to flowers in a sleet storm). <BR> <BR>PS: What exactly do you play with the doctor in real life?

ncgrrl Feb 14th, 2001 05:50 AM

Scorch, <BR> <BR>I'm from Chep'l 'ill. Did you have 'cue at the A&M in Mebbin'?

Webster Feb 14th, 2001 07:00 PM

Merriam: <BR> Your choice of verbiage leaves me a bit arsy-varsy (which, in the unified spirits of neologism, word splicing, and reverence for the Queen's English, would be the most appropriate descriptor of the confusion perpetrated by a ranking (varsity?) member of the Pompous Arse Club upon one attempting to maintain the integrity of the language...unfortunately, I can't refer you to the page in 'our' dictionary on which its definition may be found. It's an Old World expression. So old it predates the recipe for haggis-in-a-tube, which has been discussed and debated many times over on the Euro forum). <BR>And after all this time, I only rate a rather oblique 'cardioid' greeting? Not the genuine article...a mutated, 'half-hearted' sentiment? The whole situation has left me skepticollicky (which is when your worries begin to give you the hurries). But no more of your excuses...I've heard the contemporary insanity plea once too often. <BR>And 'we' don't play together any more. The therapy was successful and since I am he and we is us, we don't interact independently any more (in public). <BR>Hope you liked the lipocephalic-shaped cookie I had baked for you and the accompanying Valentine's roseoids. <BR>Web <BR>

x Feb 15th, 2001 03:07 AM

Last night Emeril on his cooking show was pronouncing "Valentine's" Day as "ValentiMe's Day" - ugh!!

Merriam Feb 15th, 2001 06:45 PM

Web: Found the roseoids. You're wearing away my resolve against continuing as your hyphenate. <BR> <BR>And effervescent fur your explanatization of "arsy-varsy," I would surely have thought you ack-bassward. <BR> <BR>You've made it a charming Valentine's Day, but we've jest ghetto stop meading this way! In this part of the world, it could lead to the bezutics.

Webster Feb 16th, 2001 05:39 AM

....bezutics, schmezutics. <BR>Irregardless of any inflammable or heinious comments anyone else may make, I still coronate you the queen of all that is fair and good in the world of diction...at least until the fall foilage appears, anyway. <BR>So are you a Europhile, Merriam?

Merriam Feb 16th, 2001 05:50 AM

Web, <BR> <BR>Were it not for my somewhat less than attenuated digits, I might be a nailphile. <BR> <BR>But other than that, yes, I confess to Europhilia currently under control because of hypolucretism. We verbimaniacs have largely missed the benefits of the New Economy. Fortunately, that means we're also missing its denouement (was he a 40s screen star?). <BR> <BR>And you? I realize after all these years how little we know of each other. Couldn't see the paragraphs for the terms.

Scorch Feb 16th, 2001 05:55 AM

I've always wondered why people want to add an extra "T" to anesthesia ("anes-steesia") and absentia ("in abstentia") -- same one as the one they pronounce in "off-ten" I suppose. <BR> <BR>And what about what happens when people confuse "prostrate" with "prostate"? <BR> <BR>Side note to Webster and Merriam: get a room. Or a shelf, I suppose.


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