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Heartburn3 Apr 17th, 2004 11:05 AM

NYC Manhattan April and May
 
My mother is wheelchair bound (can't walk, only transfer from WC to a seat) and we need to go to Sloan Kettering for a cancer treatment April 25 through May 5, 2003. Unfortunately, the cancer run is driving up prices for hotel rooms and could keep us from going :-(

If anyone knows of hotels in the area of Sloan Kettering outpatient cancer center, please let me know. We have to make plans quickly because we'd have to be there on April 25th. We need one room for two women and the hotel cannot offer only one double bed for the room, this would not be comfortable for us. Sloan Ketterin in NYC is the only place in the country offering the needed treatment, so we are getting desperate. Thanks for any help you can give us.

Elizabeth Apr 17th, 2004 11:43 AM

Sorry to hear your family has to contend with this and hoping for a successful treamtent of your mother.

Can the hospital help with accommodation?

You could try Craigslist, look at the sublet/short stays section, you might find a convenient apartment, if that would work - there are people who rent their apartments by day/week.

mclaurie Apr 17th, 2004 11:53 AM

The hospital has an arrangement with the Helmsley Medical Tower for family of patients & out patients. Also I think they may have a deal with the Melrose Hotel. Have you contacted the hospital for help? (Find it hard to believe any hotel will only offer 1 bed.)

By doing a web search for
hotel AND sloan kettering
I also came up with a listing for the Bridgestreet at 316 east 63 at this URL

http://www.new.york.the-hotels.com/b...-east-63rd.htm

The Bentley hotel is also mentioned in this search. Not sure where it is exactly.

BTW, think the outpatient center is at the same location as the hospital-York Ave around 65-67 st.

Lots of good luck.

nytraveler Apr 17th, 2004 11:58 AM

Sloan-Kettering has a lot of info on accomodations on their web site, including special rates at several nearby hotels. Have you tried all of those?

http://www.mskcc.org/mskcc/html/5364.cfm

If so, and the rates are too high because of the run I would think your next best bet might be to try some of the less expensive hotels on the upper west side - the next shortest cab ride to the hotel (NYC buses do have wheelchair access - but I'm not sure of any hotels that would be close enough to the 72nd st crosstown - most are further uptown and waiting for 2 buses (for instance 79 crosstown and york ave downtown) seems like it would be too onerous. People here seem to recommend the Lucerne a lot, but you might search for upper west side hotels above.

Heartburn3 Apr 17th, 2004 03:55 PM

Thank you for all your help. This just came up in the past two days and our local doctor has not given us particulars, just the basics so we can make a decision as to whether we want to make the trip from South Florida. I'll check the websites offered. I didn't even know what area of Manhattan we were going to until yesterday. As you can all understand, we have a lot on our plate and I knew all my Fodorite friends would come to my assistance. If Mom wasn't in a wheelchair, this would be a piece of cake to deal with because transportation would not be an issue.

Thanks again to everyone. If anyone has any additional comments, I'm open to all the info I can get.

Johnnyg Apr 17th, 2004 04:35 PM

You might want to try a search for long term hotels or extended stay hotels in New York. After you get the names of some hotels, go to Tripadvisor.com to check out reviews. This site has always proved very helful to me. I hope all goes well for your Mom. I wish your trip here was under much better circumstances.

SandyBrit Apr 17th, 2004 05:13 PM

There is a very informative report by Lynn McKamey whose husband was treated at Sloan Kettering for his cancer at www.scubamom.com/nyc/ - Lynn reports on where they stayed, the area in general, where to eat, reports the cost of things and has links to hotels in this area. Also has a detailed map.

I hope this will help you in planning your upcoming journey. My heart and prayers go out to you both.

Sandy



Heartburn3 Apr 17th, 2004 06:09 PM

Thanks Johnnyg and Sandybrit. I already found Lynn McKamey's site and found it very informative.

I wonder if it would be worth it to stay in NJ or an area outside of Manhattan and then take a cab to wherever we would need to go to meet with the doc and have tests and treatment. We can get much better rates at hotels on the outskirts but I have no idea which areas are safe. Is it easier to go from LGA to Manhattan or Newark or JFK to Manhattan if we decide to stay near an airport? We will be two women on our own. I'm from Ft. Lauderdale and not used to public transportation.

As soon as we find out more info on Monday as far as where we would need to be for tests, treatment, etc., we will have a better idea of what we're doing. If the procedure isn't covered by Medicare and is very costly, we might not even be taking this route for treatment. We have a lot of issues to weigh before making a final decision. However, if we decide to go, I want to have all my ducks in a row and be able to get reservations because we'll have to act quickly.

For those of you in NYC, can you tell me if there is anything going on May 2-May 12 that would drive up rates in Manhattan? I might be able to get a decent rate through expedia or priceline if it will be relatively quiet. Thanks for all your concern and support, my family and I truly appreciate it.

Dave_ Apr 18th, 2004 02:39 AM

The only downside I can see with you trying to use Priceline for your stay is that you want two beds. BiddingForTravel makes a note that in NYC this is not available in some hotels.

A local will be able to say much more accurately but I think La Guardia is much more convenient for getting a cab to Manhattan if you have the option of flying there.

I'm sure you've already factored this is but a cheaper hotel in an outlying area plus a cab fare to the treatment center may well end up costing similar to a Manhattan hotel (plus there's added hassle and time to think about).

nytraveler Apr 18th, 2004 03:00 AM

I do not recommend staying near any of the ariports. While all of the areas are safe the transit time and costs woould probably be prohibitive - since public transport in from the airports would not be at all convenient for someone in a wheelchair. For example - taxis to and from JFk would be at least $100 (after the upcoming fare increase) - I would think more than making up for any savings in hotel costs. Costs in and out of the LGA area would be somewhat less - perhaps $70 or so - but still perhaps not worth the savings.

While not the busiest season of the year, tourisn has already started to pick up and hotel prices may not be at their lowest.

You may want to consider the apartment rental route - but be very careful to get all the info on the place. Many, many inexpesnive apartments in Manhattan are walk-ups only - often as much as five flights.

If it turns out you will be doing this you may want to consider calling the hospital directly to get more info on accomidations from them.

suzanne Apr 18th, 2004 03:04 AM

Getting into Manhattan from LaGuardia takes half as much time as from JFK or Newark.

May 2: NYC 5-Borough Bike Tour
(not a good day to arrive- the FDR and Queensboro bridges will be closed, among other streets)

May 1-9: Tribeca Film Festival.

Heartburn3 Apr 18th, 2004 08:05 AM

It's not necessary to have two beds. I just need either one king, one queen or two of smaller sizes (double or twin.) Thanks for the info on the "walk-ups" that's why I'm not too interested in an apartment. I'll look into alternate dates for the procedure. Maybe they can get it done in a week and we can arrive on a Sunday and leave the following Friday night or Saturday morning.

If we explain to the Sloan-Kettering doctors what the problem is, they might be able to speed up the tests that are required before the procedure.

Thanks all, you have been a tremendous help. One more question, though....

Are subways a possibility with a wheelchair? If not, we'll just have to use cabs whenever possible.

vacationdreamer Apr 18th, 2004 10:26 AM

Some subway stations are handicap accessible, but most are not. Below is a link to the subway map -- if you click on a station, the information for that line pops up and there is a wheelchair symbol for the stations that are accessible.

http://mta.info/nyct/maps/submap.htm

However, Sloan is not really near a subway station. Buses would be a better option - all city buses (I am 99% sure) are handicap accessible - the driver helps with an electric ramp. If you are in the York and 66th area, the 66th street crosstown bus (M66) would take you there as well as the M31, which goes down York to 57th street and then across town on 57th.
This is a link to the bus map :

http://mta.info/nyct/maps/submap.htm

The other posters are correct in that LGA area is the best option time/cost wise if you're staying out of manhattan.

Best of luck.

mclaurie Apr 18th, 2004 10:32 AM

Heartburn3, unfortunately I have had several close friends & family members treated at SL within the last several years, one as recently as this year. Do not underestimate the hospital's ability to provide reasonably priced housing for you. Additionally, they have an entire dept to help you with financial issues for treatment.

As to the issue of staying on the "outskirts," I think it would probably be penny wise & pound foolish, especially with a wheel chair. It also depends on how frequently the treatments are administered. If treatments are daily I think it would be foolish to have to commute daily. If treatments are, say, every other day maybe. But remember, not everywhere on the "outskirts" has public transport so then you might have to rent a car.

I think you should take a deep breath, relax as best you can today & wait to make decisions til tomorrow when you know more. It's also possible this trip may just be for tests & you may have to make an appt. to return for the treatment. In the meantime, if you can contact the Helmsley Med. Building today to check rates, that might set your mind at ease. Best of luck & good wishes to your Mother.

PS Forget about subways with a wheel chair. La Guardia is easiest/closest airport. Don't stay near any of the airports.

Johnnyg Apr 18th, 2004 11:03 AM

If you decide to book with Priceline, after you get confirmation of a hotel, call the hotel directly and explain the situation. I've used Priceline and have gotten the bed type I needed by calling the hotel and requesting it. I also always get the name of the person to whom I am speaking. Also, before booking with Priceline, go to www.bidding for travel. The site offers information on hotels that do business with Priceline, as well as reviews.
LaGuardia is definitely much closer to the city. Do not even consider Newark.
I would not stay too far away from the treatment center. The cost of a taxi during peak times can be expensive. The treatment center is in a very safe area with accessibilty to bus transportation. I think every public bus is now handicap accessible. The closest subway would be 68th and Lexington or 59 and Lexington. It would be virtually impossible to travel by subway with your mom in a wheelchair. Take care.

Heartburn3 Apr 19th, 2004 07:12 PM

I spoke directly with the Sloan-Kettering doctor who will be treating Mom and he also pointed me to the Helmsley Medical Towers because they have kitchens. Also, he said we can wait until May 23rd to be there, as the need is not as urgent as first thought. At least now I can breathe easier and take my time with reservations.

Here's the kicker... she will have to be at the main campus of MSK for 3 different visits: A scan, a doctor visit and finally the injection (1 -- thank goodness.) Her treatment would be on 5/27 but she will not be able to fly back for about 7 days because of the materials they are injecting her with -- she'll set off all the machines at the airport! So we don't have to stay by the hospital from 5/28 to 6/3. Do you think it would be worth it to try to get a good deal on priceline closer to the action? I'd want a 4* or higher if we switch hotels. If we stay at the Helmsley Med Tower, the rate for 7 days or more would be $155/nt. This sounds like a good price for a place with a kitchen. What do you all think?

Vacationdreamer: you gave the following info:

"This is a link to the bus map :
http://mta.info/nyct/maps/submap.htm"
Did you mean to write busmap.htm???

You are all the best! You've helped me tremendously with everything. We will stay in Manhattan where we can see the sites in our down time.

vacationdreamer Apr 20th, 2004 08:30 AM

Sorry! The link for the Manhattan bus map:

http://mta.info/nyct/maps/manbus.pdf

As you might have guessed, mta.info is the homepage for the NY area transit agency.

Travelkitty Apr 20th, 2004 08:39 AM

I would definitely go for the place with the kitchen. When your mom is undergoing treatment, she may not be up for eating out regularly or may want certain foods which can be more easily accomodated with a kitchen. Plus that is an excellant rate and you know the facility is familiar with people with special physical requirements.

rjw_lgb_ca Apr 20th, 2004 08:45 AM

When my sister had her procedures at MSKCC, she and my mom stayed at the Helmsley Medical Tower while she recovered. They liked it a lot, and they still managed shopping and shows (as much as post-surgery allowed). Now my sis does outpatient chemo and takes the train in from Trenton, but she will be having yet ANOTHER procedure that will require a hospital stay-- so she'll be back at Helmsley. But it's a nice place, so....

Chin up. The folks at MSKCC are really nice and work really hard on their patients' behalf, so your mom's in good hands. Keep up your spirits!

Leona Apr 20th, 2004 09:10 AM

Heartburn3,

Call the American Cancer Society, NY chapter. They might be able to arrange accommodations at a hotel that participates in their rooming programs.


mclaurie Apr 20th, 2004 10:54 AM

Glad to hear things are not so urgent & you sound calmer. If I udnerstand correctly, there will be a week in between scan & injection & you will have to say for a week after injection. If you plan on staying overnight when coming for the scan, why not see how you like the Helmsley rooms before deciding whether to stay there. Also remember that May 28-31 is Memorial Day weekend. Don't know how that will affect regular hotel prices.

Heartburn3 Apr 20th, 2004 05:09 PM

McLaurie, we'd arrive on a Sunday, get the scan and see the doctor Monday & Tuesday, if all goes well, she gets an injection on Thursday. After that, we won't need to return to the hospital. However, we can't leave via airlines for a week due to the type of radiation they will be injecting.

What I was wondering is if we should try to get a hotel closer to all the action for the week we have to just sit around waiting for Mom to stop glowing ((I)) ... LOL

If I can get online at one of the local libraries, I might be able to snag a deal on a 4* hotel via priceline. And if not, we'll just stay at the Helmsley.

RJW: I hope your sister is getting better. Glad to know the staff at MSK are so caring. Most cancer centers tend to be that way, fortunately! I guess there are places nearby to get some basic groceries, right?

mclaurie Apr 21st, 2004 09:28 AM

Hi Heartburn3. No one can really make the decison for you about PL vs the Medical Tower, but here are some things to think about/find out. The neighborhood around the hospital is a very nice area. In addition to MSKCC, NYU Cornell Med Ctr is also there & there are a lot of apartment buildings both for hosp. staff & others. So there are a lot of delis, restaurants, & general services for a residential area. My friends who've stayed at the Med Towers had a lot of take out meals-food that was delivered-pizza, chinese, deli-almost anything you can imagine & the Helmsley gives you a list of local places both for delivery & eating out. So the kitchen is not just for cooking but also for having a fridge, dishes etc.. not to mention a table to eat comfortably. You might also want to check what you'd be getting for $155. It could be a 1 bedroom set up where you'd have a separate bedroom in case 1 of you wanted to nap while the other watched TV. I guess what I'm trying to say is the area's not so far from "the action" & having a kitchen can have more benefits than just being able to cook (& yes there'll be plenty of food stores).

The most important issue is whether you need a handicap accessible hotel & room. I'm not sure a Priceline hotel bid will/can guarantee this. You should read the rules & regs carefully before attempting a bid. Also, do you really want to be in a busy area on a holiday weekend pushing a wheelchair?

I certainly understand the appeal of saving possibly $40/day on a hotel but it may be for a much smaller room where your Mom might not be able to manage. Final thought, if you wanted to go out on your own & leave your Mom in the room to watch TV or sleep, if God forbid she needed help, you might feel more confident near the hospital in a facility designed for this.

There are other hospitals in the city that are really not near very much, but honestly this hsopital is not in a bad location. It would be walkable to Bloomingdales, for example. The only other place you might want to check is the Melrose. It's not far from the hospital & right near Bloomingdales & lots of shopping. There might be a discount available with SK

Anonymous Apr 21st, 2004 09:39 AM

Don''t use Priceline if you MUST have any specific room feature, from two beds to handicap features.

wantsomesun Apr 21st, 2004 11:50 AM

I like to lend a hand while you are here, to show you around town or just be an extra pair of hands when needed. My Mother had cancer and was a Breast Cancer survior for more than 5 years, and passed 2 years ago because of smoking. She moved to NYC and I was her primary care giver for more than 6 months, so I know how difficult this time will be for you.

Please let me know if you need any help, we don't live very far from where you will be and there is so much to see in the city that you may want to take some time to enjoy this time of year.

My best thoughts for you and your family.

dita Apr 21st, 2004 05:47 PM

SALISBURY HOTEL on 57th & 7th (I believe) is definitely worth looking into. My in-laws stay there every fall fro 2-3 months!!! Quite reasonable and flexible. Just call and ask. You never know. 1888-NYC-5757 or nycsalisburyhotel.com. I believe every room has a kitchen. It's centrally located and just a short walk from Central Park.
GOOD LUCK with everything.

Heartburn3 Apr 22nd, 2004 04:40 PM

McLaurie -- thanks for all the info. We will probably stay at Helmsley Medical Towers the entire time we are there. I know it's in a very nice section of Manhattan, which is a major plus. You also reminded me about pushing Mom around in a wheelchair on crowded streets...UGH!! For $155 we will get a "Studio Apartment" with 2 full beds and a kitchen. For $20 more we can get a Junior Suite that has one Queen bed and a pull-out bed with a kitchen. I believe the studio apt will be just what we are looking for. I need to be in the same room with Mom in case she needs me during the night.

WANTSOMESUN -- thanks so much for the offer to show us around or help out. I know you'd be a great help if I need it. Please e-mail me at "[email protected]" I just might take you up on your offer. I at least want to get your contact info in case I have any questions. You are a sweetheart. And if you ever want some sun around Fort Lauderdale, just let me know and I'll point you in the right direction.

One thing is for sure, you definitely won't starve or get bored in NYC...LOL!

Thanks to everyone, again, for all your info, assistance, and encouragement.


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