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amazed Jun 7th, 2002 10:01 AM

Wow.....the extent of selfishness in our society has reached an all-time high.....Here you guys are, arguing and getting hot-headed over where people like to vacation.....do you even stop to realize for one second that hundreds of millions of people in this world would kill to be able to go on ONE nice vacation in their lifetime. Not to mention all of the SERIOUS issues that are facing our country....I hardly think that Disney fans being in a cult qualifies as "serious." Why don't you all take the time that you would post a rebuttal on this thread and think about all the thousands of people who died on September 11th and the fact that they will never be able to vacation again....it will put it all in perspective for you.....

Ryn Jun 7th, 2002 10:42 AM

I happen to like WDW very much; but I go there precisely to escape the real world for a few days. Also, we love Epcot, but we stick to the Futureworld side. When I want to do world travel, I want reality, so I visit the real thing.<BR>When I want to do fantasy, I do WDW.<BR><BR>I will say one thing; if you could not find good food at WDW, you were not looking hard at all. Food is always one of the highlights of our trips. Most of the best restaurants in Central Florida are located in Disney hotels.

the dude Jun 7th, 2002 10:55 AM

I'm not the world's biggest fan of Disney. But I'll say this much for them. It's the one place where I feel comfortable smoking a little weed. It's a small world indeed. And getting smaller with every toke.

xxx Jun 7th, 2002 11:36 AM

Amazed - your post is meaningless. Who are you to preach to anyone here on this forum? I'm quite sure that all of the people posting here have thought about the people who died on 9/11 and have thought about the millions of less fortunate people in the world. It would be quite impossible to think about those things all of the time, however. Posting here about vacations and "thinking" about those less fortunate are not mutually exclusive.

Mickey Jun 7th, 2002 06:21 PM

I'm 50 years old and have been to WDW 7 times and Disneyland in California once. I love it. It's nice, clean, interesting, and fun. I have also been to Europe 5 times, Turkey, Mexico, Hawaii, Alaska, central America, the Caribbean, Australia, New Zealand and Tasmania. I've eaten in some of the best restaurants in the world and found the California Grill on top of the Contemporary Hotel at WDW to be a fantastic restaurant. Also the Flying Fish at the Boardwalk and Citricos in the Grand Floridian were excellent, the Brown Derby at MGM was delicious, the French restaurant in Epcot , the Japanese restaurant in Epcot and the Chinese restaurant in Epcot, not to mention the Shepherd's Pie in the British Pub in Epcot were all very good. <BR><BR>Disney offers a good prooduct that many people obviously love. As always when you have a good product that millions of people endorse it generates jealousy and anger in some people. ( Just look at Microsoft or McDonald's ) The response of these people is almost always elitist though. It's not enough that they don't like it, they have to attack it, with an enthusiasm that far exceeds any wrong these companies have committed. <BR><BR>Why? <BR><BR>Primarily because they project their own inadequacies onto the company that is wildly successful, thus, the angry, over intellectualized arguments you read on sites like this about what...Walt Disney World of all things. <BR><BR>I say if you like it, enjoy it and if you don't like...too bad.

Donald Jun 7th, 2002 06:39 PM

Well said Mickey!

Goofy Jun 7th, 2002 06:40 PM

Yeah, Mick, that was quite good.

Chip and Jun 7th, 2002 06:48 PM

Good job Mickey...we agree.

X Trapnel Jun 8th, 2002 01:02 AM

Some of you people are unbelievable. Surely one can have an unfavorable opinion about Disney without being consumed with jealousy, personal inadequacies and (perhaps the worst insufficiency of all in today's world) the inability to recognize and celebrate the success of an obviously brilliant and superior product. I grew up in the 70's, before VCRs and at a time when the Disney machine was a bit down, and thus was easily able to avoid them through the critical years of childhood, and I have pretty much been able to continue to do the same straight through the rest of my life, but I am so oblivious as not to be aware that for a lot of reasons (owning TV and news outlets, among others) they have a very large influence on attitudes people have in this society, one of the most unfortunate of which is the almost unchallenged attitude that anything is justifiable and worthy of admiration if it generates a big enough profit. Also all the evidence regarding their corporate practices, the town of Celebration that they run, the organization of their cruises and parks, etc, indicates that more even than other mega-businesses they have pretty much zero tolerance for human individuality, criticism, the faintest hint of non-conformity, discourse and exchanges between people beyond the most superficial level, spontaneity, most of what adults through the majority of human history have considered to be fun...needless to say the list could go on for a while. I'm glad you're so happy in it; happiness is probably the most misunderstood and overrated quality to pursue in life anyway (especially if Disney is somehow believed to be involved in providing it). Few people carry it off well.

Mildred Jun 8th, 2002 03:59 AM

X Trapnel <BR><BR>For a guy who says, "I grew up in the 70's, before VCRs and at a time when the Disney machine was a bit down, and thus was easily able to avoid them through the critical years of childhood, and I have pretty much been able to continue to do the same straight through the rest of my life", you sure have alot to say about an organisation that you easily avoided and obviously don't have any contact with. <BR><BR>You go on to say, "unchallenged attitude that anything is justifiable and worthy of admiration if it generates a big enough profit".<BR><BR>Who has this attitude other than you? <BR><BR>You're projecting here and over generalizing and over dramatizing. Large successful companies don't get away with murder because thay are large successful companies. They have to follow rules and regulations like everyone else and if they don't they get called on the carpet. <BR><BR>Your response is part of that elitist mental masturbation group that young arrogant people, with little experience in reality, make all the time. You guys sound like a broken record. <BR><BR>Go jerk off somewhere else cause that's all your phony response is....mental masturbation. You want so desperately to look like you know something or have some value system when in reality it's just pompous elan.

Lindsay Jun 8th, 2002 04:10 PM

Go Mildred. <BR><BR>These people who try so hard to sound smart are just embarrasing. This guy X Trapnel says," happiness is probably the most misunderstood and overrated quality to pursue in life anyway".<BR><BR>Is this a frustrated and pitiful writer or what? Geez, I thought the histrionics were bad in my high school drama class but this guy brings it to a new level.

aaaa Jun 8th, 2002 06:01 PM

ttt

Monique Jun 16th, 2002 09:19 PM

Topping for Ron

Ron Ron Enron Jun 16th, 2002 09:26 PM

You're projecting here and over generalizing and over dramatizing. Large successful companies don't get away with murder because thay are large successful companies. They have to follow rules and regulations like everyone else and if they don't they get called on the carpet.

News Jun 17th, 2002 04:16 AM

Don't follow the rules, here's what happens...<BR><BR>"House Democrats Wednesday announced they will soon introduce several bills in response to the financial collapse of Enron"<BR><BR><BR>"A verdict has been reached in the Arthur Andersen LLP criminal trial." <BR><BR>

Ratboy Jun 17th, 2002 04:47 AM

Actually, Osama would have done us all a favor if he had sent those planes to crash into Disney World, Epcot, Disneyland and Michael Eisner's home. Osama bin Laden would have provided a service to Western Civilization.


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