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mclaurie Oct 8th, 2007 09:44 AM

While hotel prices (and real estate prices) have skyrocketed, I agree with trippinkpj, you must understand you're coming at the MOST expensive time of year. I can't emphasize this enough. Also, the demand for hotel rooms from folks like yourselves with Euros and even more from the folks with UK pounds is pushing prices up. I also think dining has in general become more expensive although you can still eat reasonably if you know where to go.

As to your Long Island city location, while the hotel is nice and new and you're a short ride by subway into Manhattan, the area is pretty industrial and rough looking. If you're just going to use the hotel to sleep, it's fine, but don't expect to find many places near it. There are some quite good ethnic restaurants in Queens (the county the hotel is in) but not to my knowledge right nearby.

artlover Oct 8th, 2007 11:25 AM

Well, I'm coming Oct 17-21 and trying to get a room in NYC Oct 19-21 and still can't find anything under $300. And it's not Thanksgiving or Xmas, so is it some other holiday (besides DD's bd) that's making this particular weekend so high?

mclaurie Oct 8th, 2007 12:09 PM

artlover, if you're just 2 and can share a queen bed, abingdonguesthouse.com has 1 room available for those dates. They say 4 night min. on a weekend, but you could give it a try. You might also contact (by phone) Club 3 west 51 st.
http://www.3westclub.com/

NeoPatrick Oct 8th, 2007 12:23 PM

Sorry, but I really have to laugh at the posts that seem to suggest the prices are high because that is the expensive time of year. All year long people post about the high costs of New York hotels and invariably -- no matter when the poster is going -- someone will post -- that's due to the marathon, it's because of the conventions that week, all of summer is high, after Easter everything goes up, during mid winter or spring school breaks you won't find any deals, May is a very popular month, fashion week is then, a lot of people book for Valentine's weekend, fleet week is going on. In other words I think it's always high except from the hours of 11 PM on January 11 to 3 AM on Feb. 6th. That's the only low season -- oops, never mind I forgot about President's weekend when the prices go up.

sayko Oct 8th, 2007 12:35 PM

I would suggest you try bidding on Priceline as well. I am from Canada and visited NYC twice last year. In Jan 2006, I was there and I got hotel for $160 CAD after tax and fees, it's a 3-star hotel right across from the Grand Central Station, I think the name is Roosevelt Hotel. Back then CAD to US was like 1.3 to 1. I booked hotel through priceline when I visited Detroit last month, and last year in LA. It all turned out great!


trippinkpj Oct 8th, 2007 12:36 PM

I've seen lower periods in NYC off and on through the year. Thanksgiving through New Years and holiday weekends seem to be much higher than other times. Just an observation in my last couple of years watching. And people posting about getting relatively low rates in January, July and August seems to support that.

trippinkpj Oct 8th, 2007 12:50 PM

Okay, I just did some checking. All November - mid December currently is higher over all than later December and Jan & Feb. The moral of the story is, some times are higher than others, and it's about supply and demand.

Margo_Chester Oct 8th, 2007 06:14 PM

Good one Patrick - and so very true!

Don't count on Priceline during these super busy months, PriceLine is driven by supply/demand too. When occupancy is so high the hotels don't need to dump extra rooms on PL, becasue there simply aren't any - they have been booked by traditional means. (and getting a nice PL win in January can't compare to trying for October - Dec. We won the Grand Hyatt in January for $105 and you sure won't pick that up now!)

McLaurie, I clicked on the link you provided, and it seems to be a catering establishment; since you suggested contacting them by phone I'm guessing they also have hotel rooms, but just not advertised on the website??

trippinkpj Oct 8th, 2007 06:23 PM

Margo, you proved my point about Jan being easier to find more resonable lodging than Nov./ Dec..

newyorklovr Oct 8th, 2007 06:51 PM

Artlover, random thought: if you're still trying to find a place under $300 and are up for renting a room in the East Village or Brooklyn, a friend and I will be traveling those days. Haven't done it in 2 yrs but I've rented in the past and had good experiences.

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newyorklovr Oct 8th, 2007 07:05 PM

whoops. I meant:

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ggreen Oct 8th, 2007 09:30 PM

OMG, you people are too funny:
"Are you sure you want to stay outside the city? In other words, have you exhausted all NYC possibilities? Embassy Suites, for example? What are your travel dates?"

"A Long Island City hotel location means commuting into Manhatan and back each day"

The hotel is <i>two blocks</i> from the N/W, and the station is <i>two stops</i> from Manhattan: Bloomie's, no less, and only one more stop to Fifth Avenue and Central Park. That's closer than from midtown to &quot;ground zero&quot;!

FWIW, Queens <i>is</i> the city. Nothing &quot;outside&quot; about it. (And I don't even live there LOL.)

Gard, the hotel reviews sound good! Will you take a cab from the airport, or public transportation? If the latter, you can take the AirTrain from JFK to Jamaica, then take either the subway or the LIRR commuter train - but neither are super-convenient to your hotel... Definitely do-able, if you're so inclined. (If you're interested, we can give you more details.)

FYI, both Queens Boulevard and Northern Boulevard are large, busy avenues that are typically full of shops and restaurants catering to the local residents. Both pass within a few blocks of your hotel. (I can't speak specifically about LIC, though.)

You're not far from PS1, a contemporary arts space affiliated with the MoMA. (ps1.org) You can also catch the 7 train out to Jackson Heights for great South Asian food and shops (look for the Jackson Diner). Or venture to Flushing at the end of the 7 line for one of NYC's Chinatowns; this one's typically called Little Taiwan. The Queens Museum is there in Flushing Meadows Corona Park, housed in one of the buildings from the World's Fair with an interesting permanent collection on the subject. (queensmuseum.org)

Go to mta.info and choose NYC Transit from the Maps tab to get a sense of the subway lines. Google maps also provides subway stations if you zoom in enough. This &quot;mashup&quot; of Google + subway is very good: www.onnyturf.com/subway. And of course there's hopstop.com for point-to-point directions!

Have a great time planning your trip!
:) ggreen

gard Oct 9th, 2007 03:42 AM

Hi

I'm not sure yet when it comes to transportation to the hotel. I think we are coming to the US using JFK and we are leaving from Newark. So feel free to comment on the best option to get to the hotel. We are pretty used to using public transportation and that is normally what we use if it is convenient enough :d

Regards
Gard
http://gardkarlsen.com - trip reports and pictures

ellenem Oct 9th, 2007 10:45 AM

Your trip from JFK to the hotel is pretty easy--and cheap!

Take the AirTrain from JFK to Jamaica Station ($5) and transfer there to the E subway train ($2) headed toward Manhattan. Get off at Queens Plaza (two stops before entering Manhattan). You'll be just a few blocks from your hotel. (Both the fares will work on a MetroCard--the AirTrain fare is paid at the Jamaica Station end.)

For your trip to Newark:

Take the same E train ($2) from Queens Plaza in the direction of Manhattan. Get off at 34th St Penn Station. Find the New Jersey Transit departure area (Penn Station has three different rail lines so this can be confusing) and take any train that stops at the Newark Airport stop. (I believe they are labled EWR on the departures board.) You'll have to buy a NJT ticket from a ticket window or machine (not sure of price . . $10-$15--can't use a MetroCard). At Newark Airport, take the AirTrain to your terminal.

artlover Oct 9th, 2007 10:49 AM

mclaurie,
Thanks for the tip. They were full but I'll keep them in mind for the future.

newyorklovr,
Thanks for the offer, but if I have a reservation in White Plains so looks like I'll just stick to that for now.

mclaurie Oct 9th, 2007 10:52 AM

Yes, Margo, they have hotel rooms.

gregeva1 Oct 9th, 2007 04:49 PM

My husband stayed at the Pod hotel in September for $159 average per night. It was in Manhattan on the East side.The web site is www.thepodhotel.com. Hope that this is helpful.

maryanne1 Oct 9th, 2007 06:49 PM

To Gard:
Like you I had been looking for a hotel in mid Manhattan which is much better than staying out. My daughter suggested the Hampton Inn in Manhattan-51st-8th Ave. which is less than $200 a night in Dec. for our dates 21-23 for a king sized bed.
Having been to NY City 3 other times it is much better to be in this area.
The Hamptons are nice which also comes with breakfast. Check it out.
HamptonInn.com

gard Oct 9th, 2007 08:40 PM

Hi

We did have the Pod hotel as an option and we were about to go for that. But the average price was 333$ including the taxes. The hotel we went for was 160$ so we got a hotel for half the price.

Regards
Gard
http://gardkarlsen.com - trip reports and pictures

gard Oct 9th, 2007 08:55 PM

Hi

The Hamptons looks very nice but for my dates the rates are 399$ per night so it is a bit too expensive for us.

Regards
Gard
http://gardkarlsen.com - trip reports and pictures


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