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Underhill Nov 19th, 2014 03:43 PM

Dining in Manhattan
 
We'll be there next month and already have a reservation at Boulud Sud. As you can tell, we like French food, but also Italian, Chinese, Vietnamese, and Mexican (but we get enough of that here in California). Also great hamburgers. Suggestions? We're staying at the Lucerne, on west 79th, and will eat at least one dinner at Nice Matin. So I need just one more spot.

nytraveler Nov 19th, 2014 04:22 PM

Shake Shack is a reliable (and usually mobbed) burger place on Columbus at 77th. Would say good but not great.

Shun Lee is excellent chinese on 62nd near columbus.

Fra_Diavolo Nov 19th, 2014 04:30 PM

Maialino is a few years old now, but still going strong for Roman trattoria style cooking. Try the cacio e pepe and the roast suckling pig for the table. Reservations a must, a month in advance if possible. http://maialinonyc.com

ekscrunchy Nov 19th, 2014 04:40 PM

Are you willing to travel or are only looking near the hotel?

What is your budget?

IMDonehere Nov 19th, 2014 07:33 PM

Shake Shack is over rated and the lines are not worth it.

For burgers try
Brindle Room
The Burger Joint at the Meridien
Back forty
Corner Bistro during the week
Spotted Pig, during the week
And where no tourist has ever set foot, Paul's Da Burger Joint, 2nd Ave just south of St. Marks, where some of the waitresses still call you 'hon.'

For Cacio e Pepe try a restaurant called Cacio e Pepe also on 2nd Ave.

Try Turkish Kitchen
For dim sum Nom Wah on Doyers, Jing Fong, and Golden Unicorn.

For Lebanese food try Au Za'atar.
French Bistro-Lucien

NeoPatrick Nov 20th, 2014 04:46 AM

Shake Shack is a "good hamburger". The burger at db Bistro Moderne is "great" or maybe even "remarkable" and worth a trip to NYC. (of course the price matches the quality).

doug_stallings Nov 20th, 2014 05:18 AM

I'm also a find of HB Burger (or Heartland Brewery), though they recently raised their prices, and Five Napkin Burger. At the latter you need a reservation if you want to go to the Times Square location, but Union Square not so much. But there's a location on the Upper West Side not far from your hotel, but I've never been to that one. Of course, there's also a Shake Shack near your hotel across from the museum of natural history.

Maialino has amazing pastas, and I strongly recommend it, but it's hard to get a table unless you want to eat at 5:30 or 10:30. You definitely need to try exactly 4 weeks in advance for reservations. But there are a lot of very good Italian places.

ekscrunchy Nov 20th, 2014 05:47 AM

I don't think Maialino is all that difficult to book. I just took a look at OpenTable and they are showing a table for two tonight at 6pm. But as Doug mentions, it is always best to book ahead.

More useful if the OP would specify neighborhoods and price range.

ekscrunchy Nov 20th, 2014 05:53 AM

Doug, did not mean to contradict….I looked again and there is, indeed, little online availability for theh next two weeks for any table for two between 6 and 9:30pm. But often phoning will turn up something not shown online. Best to book ahead..good restaurant.

I also like Marta, in the same stable.

fmpden Nov 20th, 2014 07:10 AM

ttt

Underhill Nov 21st, 2014 10:29 AM

How about Carmine's? Our goddaughter used to work there, but that was a while back.

We'll be in NYC on Dec. 6hth through 9th. Budget? Around $75 without alcohol for the two of us but we can stretch it for something really good. One of us might have a beer or glass of wine with dinner, which would be on top of the food budget. I have no idea what New York prices are, as this is our first trip. We're not foodies, BTW.

Location: not too far from the hotel would be good but not essential.

ekscrunchy Nov 21st, 2014 11:16 AM

Assuming that the $75 includes tax and a 15% tip, you are pricing yourself on the low side for Manhattan dining in general, other than at some Asian places and some very simple spots. But Carmine's might work, and since you do not claim to be a "foody," it might be a good choice, as you can share the dishes.. I have been there once, at another location, about 20 years ago, so cannot comment on the food, but I imagine it is decent enough.

Here is their online menu to offer an idea of prices:

http://carmines2go.com/menu/91st/

Two additional choices that are pretty good and are in the general area are CESCA and OUEST, but both will be more pricey than Carmine's. They were both pretty solid restaurants, but again, I have not been to either in at least 4 years..

fmpden Nov 21st, 2014 01:18 PM

Last week we were very pleased with the Tangled Vine, a small wine bar at 80th and Amsterdam. They have a new chef and did a terrific job with a Spanish oriented dinner.

Also, Malson Kayser just open a new place on the corner of 76 and Broadway. They offer two fixed price menus for @25 and $33 - three courses. The $25 portions were small but adequate and excellent. It is a BYOB so that holds down the price.

Underhill Nov 21st, 2014 03:30 PM

Good to know about NYC restaurant prices. Sounds somewhat like Paris! Speaking of which, we ate breakfast at Kayser in Paris and were impressed with the quality of the breads. The prix fixe menus don't come up when I Google Maison Kayser, but I'll keep trying. Thanks for the tips.

Underhill Nov 21st, 2014 03:41 PM

Anyone know Basso 56? It gets very good reviews on Trip Advisor.

Underhill Nov 21st, 2014 03:47 PM

Finally, where do we find terrific pizza?

nytraveler Nov 21st, 2014 03:52 PM

Sorry - Carmine's is more about quantity than quality - basic red sauce Italian in massive portions. Be careful not to order too much food of you go - most appetizers feed at least 2 and many people just order 2 mains for 4 people

Underhill Nov 21st, 2014 03:56 PM

Okay; Carmine's is off the list.

jubilada Nov 21st, 2014 04:04 PM

For the ny pizza of my childhood , plain , delicious, folded on a paper plate, Joe's in Union Square.

Fra_Diavolo Nov 21st, 2014 04:10 PM

The best pizza is downtown. Likely spots are Motorino http://motorinopizza.com/new_york/eastvillage Lombardi's http://firstpizza.com and John's http://johnsbrickovenpizza.com

There are several others, well-regarded, which I have not tried. But I do believe the best pizzas are found below 14th Street, inconvenient as that is for me.

IMDonehere Nov 21st, 2014 10:13 PM

Motorino has a great luncheon weekday deal. There us a place nearby that is really only known in the neighborhood, Luzzo's.

http://luzzosgroup.com/luzzos-group-...#what-they-say

Salento Nov 26th, 2014 02:18 AM

I think that Carmnines would be good spot for you. I was there few times and quality was really good. About pizza, all of them are quite similar, but I choose Motorino. When I go out and want to try something new often check http://placeiliveexample.com. You can found all restaurants and etc.

doug_stallings Nov 26th, 2014 04:58 AM

Carmine's is ok, but it doesn't take reservations for two, and the waits can be 2 hours plus. Instead, try Tony's Di Napoli, which does take reservations and has better food (and smaller portions). Reservations this time of the year are a MUST, and you need to make them at least a week or maybe two in advance at popular places (yes, even neighborhood restaurants that accept them).

IMDonehere Nov 26th, 2014 08:36 AM

Salento, an another Fodor's topic you note you are making your first trip to NY soon. But you are making restaurant recommendations and making broad generalizations. Please clarify if you have been to NY and have tried these places.

Underhill Nov 26th, 2014 02:44 PM

I did a turn-about and ended up with these:

Night 1, Nice Matin (at our hotel)
Night 2, Swagat (forgot to mention Indian)
Night 3, Boulud Sud

We should eat well. I expect lunches will be at whichever museum we're visiting.

Thanks for all the good suggestions.

NeoPatrick Nov 26th, 2014 03:45 PM

Salento on Nov 25, 14 at 4:57am
Help please. :( I am going to New York for the first time in 2 weeks. . .

Salento on Nov 26, 14 at 6:18am
I think that Carmnines would be good spot for you. I was there few times and quality was really good.


I see what you mean, IAmDonehere.

Huh, Salento?

fmpden Nov 26th, 2014 06:45 PM

Also, Salento just joined this month and have posted to just two postings. One as a novice and one as an expert. Quick learner.

IMDonehere Nov 26th, 2014 07:02 PM

Maybe he/she will return with some sort of explanation.

NeoPatrick Nov 27th, 2014 06:26 AM

"Quick learner."

Yes indeed! Just one day between "going for the first time in two weeks" and "I was there few times..."

POMAH Nov 27th, 2014 09:31 AM

why not try Polish or Russian? Go to 86st brooklyn 18ave for some good Polish food; and to Brighton Beach fo Russian.

POMAH Nov 27th, 2014 09:33 AM

Also, when in Brooklyn for pizza go to L&B Spumoni Gardens on 86st.

nytraveler Nov 27th, 2014 01:41 PM

Yes, how to be an expert on Carmine's and reco to someone - and which branch? Really there are SO many better Italian places - either a tourist trap or great for young groups with large appetites.

fodorsuser1209827 Dec 1st, 2014 08:04 AM

My DH just surprised me with a trip to NYC this weekend. We are staying at Ritz Carlton in Financial district on West Street. Does anyone know of a nice place for dinner near there (not Asian) that might have tables avaialble at this late date?

Many thanks! ;)

IMDonehere Dec 1st, 2014 11:05 AM

North End Grill, as for tables, I have no idea.

ekscrunchy Dec 1st, 2014 02:00 PM

North End Grill is good, although I have not been since the original chef left. They are showing availability on Saturday night. I did not check Friday but it is easy enough to do.

IMDonehere Dec 1st, 2014 07:53 PM

There are many new restaurants in the area, but unfortunately, we have been to them to offer recommendations.

fodorsuser1209827 Dec 2nd, 2014 05:55 AM

Thanks everyone. We are set for Saturday night, dining with my SIL and BIL at Sparks Steakhouse. Will check out North End grill.

IMDonehere Dec 2nd, 2014 06:24 AM

IS there a Sparks downtown? I think you will find that there are other steakhouses in Manhattan that people prefer. I like the Strip House in Greenwich Village.

fodorsuser1209827 Dec 2nd, 2014 06:37 AM

It's on East 46th Street. DH has been there a couple times and liked it. Apparently there was a mob shooting there years ago?? I have never been... They had availability on Sat night for 4 people. This will be our first time going to NYC together. :)

IMDonehere Dec 2nd, 2014 08:23 AM

Yes Big Pauly Castellano was shot outside Sparks in 1985 by John Gotti's men.


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