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rick Aug 17th, 2002 05:39 AM

Absolutely the city is getting worse. It is far dirtier already and it is starting to smell. Yes, I have lived here all my life. Take a train ride to the outer boroughs and it looks like a grafitti convention. <BR>Rudy was the best mayor BY FAR this city has ever had. No politician had the tenacity to get things done like he has. Unfortunately, NYC is a built-in liberal city and Bloomberg and the City Council are no Rudy. For people to say the city was getting better before Rudy is LUDICROUS. NYC was the leader in crime reduction under HIS watch. <BR>This city is falling back. Also, it's really getting third-world. This is even by New York standards. If it keeps up at this pace it will be a banana republic. Yes, I am looking to leave here. NYC is great because it has a lot to do. Once you get over that, there are a lot of problems here. There are countless areas people don't venture into or even want to discuss. Great place to be out of college and maybe for 8-10 years. Then-get out!

bloomberg Aug 17th, 2002 06:14 AM

To [email protected]--the $5 billion deficit is what Mayor Bloomberg is saying the city has. That is why he is slashing budgets and not giving raises. <BR><BR>The guy is a billionaire and was CEO of a very successful company so I think he probably knows what he is talking about.

jerk Aug 17th, 2002 01:07 PM

Bloomberg---<BR><BR>Do you also beleive in the tooth fairy!!!!!!!!!!!!

jerk Aug 17th, 2002 01:09 PM

excuse spelling should be--believe--

native Aug 17th, 2002 07:29 PM

i live in park slope in brooklyn, new york. i've started noticing things cropping up in the neighborhood in the last week or so; small things. there are new garbage cans on the street corners. now, i don't mean new replacements of the old garbage cans. i mean, an entirely new, beautifully sculptured recepticles. today, i noticed other new additions of sculptured fire boxes, as well. now, this might add up to nothing to most people. however, there is a philosphical statement that goes, "nothing is something". when i asked my teenage daughter if she understood what that meant, much to my utter amazement she said, "sure. it means that everything's gotta start somewhere." rudy started the rudimentary groundwork. it's my job as a new yorker to give bloomberg the opportunity to turn nothing into something.

jas Aug 18th, 2002 05:02 AM

So what your saying native is that Bloomberg's decorating side is coming out....

nyer Aug 18th, 2002 07:45 AM

hey metro - leave your car at home and take a cab, the subway or the bus. If Americans drove less and walked more they wouldn't be so fat and lazy.<BR><BR>NYC has gotten dirtier - I would recommend all NYers to go to:<BR><BR>http://home.nyc.gov/portal/index.jsp?pageID=nyc_mayor&catID=1194<BR><BR>and write the Mayor complaining about the trash. <BR><BR>And at least the drag queens are entertaining than that Disney treacle crap.

native Aug 18th, 2002 09:42 AM

heheh; cute, jas, cute. i'm gonna keep it light 'cause when discussing politicin' yer bound to take a lickin' and sunday's i just ain't into s&m'n. however, my daughter was entertaining some "folks" from out of town who were staying at the Millenium. They requested to be taken to the touristy 42nd st disney area which is pretty much a no-no area to most natives; wouldn't you agree? when my daughter arrived home i asked her what it was like there. she complained about the crowds. she said that it was so overcrowded that she could hardly move. this may be indicative of the rudimentary change that mr. guilliani started in transforming our town towards a richer, safer city; however, i hope you would agree that it was a long and arduous journey. when mr. bloomberg decides to make a major change in the structure of education or another branch of city gov, i wonder how long it will take for us to see any fruition of manifestation. for the moment i guess i will have to settle for moot tidbits like watching the paint dry on the wall or architectural decorations. long thread, i know. as mentioned in my last thread, i live in park slope. i live in a high-rise with a balcony facing manhattan and on 9/11 we all watched the gaping holes and then the towers fall, and then manhattan totally disappeared behind a billowing cloud of smoke. i mean manhattan was gone; totally gone. New York City just disappeared. We waited to see if it was going to reappear from behind the smoke. It did. Go Bloomberg Go!!! And Jas, thanks for making me smile. And for all the people that really give a enough of a crap to care what's goin' on. Maybe i'll catch in you soho, at a show, a concert, on 5th ave., at Le Cirque, at a pizza parlor, a tattoo parlor, central park, the frick, high tea at the plaza, roller-blading on west side, cruising the village, cruising at scores, lounging at gramercy tavern, the cigar club, sitting on the steps of the 42nd st library, the met museum of art . . . and it all disappeard behind a cloud of smoke. thanks again, jas for making me smile.

seamus Aug 18th, 2002 02:07 PM

Sounds like the same crap we hear here about SF. About a year ago the New Yorkers were so smug about their beautifully clean city with no homeless and so critical of San Francisco. Well, what goes around comes around. We'll gladly swap you Willie for Bloomberg---deal?

jas Aug 19th, 2002 03:53 AM

Seamus---not interested in exchanging<BR>one bum mayor for another.<BR><BR><BR><BR>

getgoing Aug 19th, 2002 04:34 PM

topper

rudy Aug 21st, 2002 04:12 AM

to the top for nyer

nyc Aug 21st, 2002 06:22 AM

Did you know that Rudy's first marriage was to his cousin? Yuck! I thought they only did that in the South!

mkb Aug 21st, 2002 07:02 AM

I agree with the folks that say good riddance to Rudy, I was glad to see the back of the man. He flourished because as someone commented, many cities flourished in the 90's when the economy was prosperous. His autocratic style pre 9/11 was getting to us - African American men getting shot in the back, Brooklyn Museum funding issue, his power went to his head. On 9/11, he did what every other mayor would have done -handled an unbelievable situation the best he could. I say give Bloomberg time - he managed to get rid of the Board of Education, something every mayor for the last 20 years attempted. However, since this is a travel message board, so I shall close by saying please continue to visit New York - it is a great city to be seen.

timothy Aug 21st, 2002 08:58 AM

rudy leaving was like a breath of fresh air.

marry Aug 22nd, 2002 09:19 AM

Rudy was married to his first cousin!!!!<BR><BR>doo doo doo doo.<BR><BR>That explains his son Andrew!!!!

ny Aug 23rd, 2002 04:38 AM

toppper

xxx Aug 23rd, 2002 07:25 AM

I'm glad I don't live in the open liberal, non-American sewer called NYC.<BR><BR>I work there, earn 170K/year, park for free on the streets and I don't even buy lunch or gasoline there.<BR><BR>I hate all the weirdos, fat people, ugly women, unwashed human rubbish that continue to ply the streets daily.<BR><BR>Look at the restaurants. Rats everywhere, many are even served for lunch. Try to live in Queens or parts of Brooklyn where certain types live. Your pet might be their dinner. <BR><BR>Human rubbish from all over the world bringing new and exotic diseases daily. A big deal of quarantine is made if an animal comes here from abroad. How about a human?<BR><BR>Nobody here speaks English. This is the US. Speak English. Those liberals in NYC don't even buy American cars. What country takes you in and feeds you?<BR><BR>John Rocker was absolutely right. The place is an open sewer, and a place to make money in and live elsewhere. I live 74 miles away from the hodgepodge of crap called NYC and am glad about that.

doc Aug 23rd, 2002 07:39 AM

I dont live in NY, but as an outsider, I find it hard for anyone to be critical of him after 9/11. I live in Boston and I dont think our mayor would have handled it nearly as well. I am tired of seeing him in the front row of the stadium, but he has earned it.

yyy Aug 23rd, 2002 09:05 AM

to xxx: you're the sort of asshole who deserves to be turned into tomato dice by your commuter train. Please, one morning while you're waiting on the platform for your express, in your cheesy suit you paid too much for like the clueless, shallow poseur that you are, just step onto the tracks, close your eyes and wait for the big choo choo to come and send you to hell, where all the other undeserving overpaid scum end up.


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