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EnglishOne Apr 16th, 2003 12:07 AM

Brit speak/ameri speak - Is it Soda??
 
I am always facinated by our differences in speech! Am off to USA on holiday in less than two weeks (not that I'm counting - I can't wait) and have one (hopefully) last silly question to ask you. In the UK, if we want a cola, we ask for a 'coke'. Now, when I have been to the US before this has been met with a raised eyebrow and a giggle or two! <BR><BR>I DO know why, it's short for 'cocaine', which of course it is in the UK as well, but we still call a cola 'coke' regardless! <BR><BR>However, to stop any further derision, what do I ask for when thirsty - is it SODA, folks? or pop? or just cola? Just a silly (but important to me!) question to brighten your day ;O)

Cicerone Apr 16th, 2003 02:10 AM

The answer depends on where in the US you will be. It is &quot;pop&quot; in the midwest, &quot;soda&quot; on the east coast, the southerners may have another word for it. Having said that, to the best of my knowledge everyone uses the word &quot;coke&quot; when they want a cola, so I don't know where you got the laughs, maybe it's your accent, not the word....

SusieQQ Apr 16th, 2003 02:10 AM

Pop or soda depends on which part of the country your in. Coke or any other brand name)is also perfectly acceptable

bookhall Apr 16th, 2003 02:20 AM

O English One, I'm married to an English one, and have been for nigh unto 40 years. I can even speak a fair amount of bloke...<BR><BR>I would suspect that any giggle you may have met with is due to the locale where you're asking, or something about the accent.<BR><BR>Soda and pop do seem to be colloquialisms. However, I'm in border country (PA) and I'm not sure which is which. I believe soda is favored amongst us Northerners, and pop is the preferred version in the south. However, we've used Coke (as a term for soda) everywhere without any problems.<BR><BR>You will often get comment in restaurants because Coke is supposed to refer strictly to Coca-Cola. If the establishment only serves Pepsi, they will generally ask &quot;is Pepsi OK?&quot;<BR><BR>Fortunately, we don't have to deal with lemon barley water, Vimto and other such arcane issues here. <BR><BR>Sadly, though, it's been almost longer than I can remember when I had a nice pint of light from a good local brewery. Aaahhh, sweet memory of youth....

hotdogz Apr 16th, 2003 02:57 AM

Yes, it's &quot;soda&quot; in some places, &quot;pop&quot; in others, but in Massachusetts, it is &quot;tonic&quot;. Stick with Coke, it will be understood everywhere.

Gothampc Apr 16th, 2003 04:08 AM

&quot;I'll have a Coke.&quot; I've used it everywhere and the only problem I've ever had is someone saying &quot;Is Pepsi ok?&quot;

OliveOyl Apr 16th, 2003 04:15 AM

Hotdogz, To further complicate this discussion, it isn't tonic in *all* of Massachusetts. I grew up in the Berkshires and never heard of tonic until I got to UMass and for the first time mingled with Bostonians. It was always just soda, (or more specifically, coke), to us.<BR><BR>One of our favorite treats on a hot summer day when growing up was an &quot;ice cream soda&quot;: vanilla ice cream in some sort of cola drink. When I asked for that after moving to the south, I was given ice cream floating in tonic water. YUCK!

Scarlett Apr 16th, 2003 04:43 AM

<BR>I always ask for Coke:)

EnglishOne Apr 16th, 2003 05:34 AM

..Maybe it IS due to my 'Thames Estuary' (bit cockney!) accent which raises the laughs! (probably reminds folks of Michael Caine or something). I'm off to Memphis and NOLA, so maybe sticking to 'coke' is the best answer (or pop!)<BR>BTW, if you asked for soda here, you would probably end up with a fizzy water mixer!

Anonymous Apr 16th, 2003 05:48 AM

In parts of the South, the word &quot;coke&quot; is used as the equivalent of &quot;soda.&quot; As in, &quot;I'll have a coke.&quot; &quot;What kind of coke do you want?&quot; &quot;Ginger ale.&quot;<BR><BR>Here in Boston, the use of &quot;tonic&quot; as a generic term for soda is diminishing, as the population gets diluted with immigrants from the lands of &quot;soda&quot; and &quot;pop.&quot;

Austin Apr 16th, 2003 05:48 AM

The way I understand it, &quot;cola&quot; &quot;pop&quot; and &quot;soda&quot; are generic. It can mean 7-Up, Coke, Pepsi, Dr. Pepper, etc. For example, &quot;Would you like a soda?&quot;<BR><BR>To name a specific brand of soda, you would answer the above question - &quot;Yes, I'd like a Coke (as in Coca-Cola)(or 7 Up, Dr. Pepper, etc.) please.&quot;

ejcrowe Apr 16th, 2003 05:52 AM

Definitely ask for Coke in NOLA or Memphis. It stands for both the generic cola and for the brand name Coca-Cola, and sometimes (obscurely) for any kind of carbonated beverage. The waiter/server may ask you what kind of Coke you want (i.e. Diet, Cherry, Sprite, orange, etc). Usually, though, Coke means just plain cola. <BR><BR>have a great time down there! I miss the South every day--have been in New England for two years now...

elberko Apr 16th, 2003 06:18 AM

Maybe the safe bet is to request a &quot;soft drink&quot;? While slightly stilted, I assume it would be understood anywhere in the county.

beachdreams Apr 16th, 2003 06:23 AM

I live in the South, near TN, and you should ask for a coke when you are at someone's house or in general conversation. Typically though, if you ask for a coke in a restaurant, they will ask regualr or diet? So, having said that, if you really want a Sprite, ask for a Sprite in the restaurant.

GoTravel Apr 16th, 2003 06:32 AM

In SC we say co-cola as in &quot;I'll have a co-cola&quot;. That is usually followed by &quot;What flavor?&quot;<BR><BR>The term 'drink' is also used for everything and doesn't stand for an alcoholic beverage.<BR><BR>Also, don't refer to BBQ as a grill. It is a food only. If you say you are BBQing, that usually means you are cooking a hog. To Grill Out means you are cooking on a grill.

jnn1964 Apr 16th, 2003 06:58 AM

I never say 'soda'. I always say 'an extra dry martini with three olives'. <BR>:)

Diana Apr 16th, 2003 07:21 AM

In N.C. We also say co-cola, and all rules mentioned by GoTravel apply EXCEPT when wanting iced tea which is said &quot;I'll have a tea&quot; or &quot;sweetea&quot; (kind of all one word).<BR><BR>If you ask for tea in the South, it WILL be sweet tea unless you specify unsweetened, in which case the server may look at you in disgust.<BR><BR>If you're down this way, you should be sure to try Cheerwine, which is a kind of red sticky drink that leaves your tongue an alarming shade of blood red.

EnglishOne Apr 16th, 2003 07:26 AM

...I love my cups of tea. When I am away from home,I do miss my cups of 'typhoo' tea too. (Wow, I'll try saying that after a few hurricanes cocktails! ;O) ) Tea doesn't seem to be the same strength in the US.

SaraLou Apr 16th, 2003 07:28 AM

Just wanted to point out that while generelly the Midwesterners say POP, some areas say SODA. I live in Wisconsin and went to a state univ. with lots of other Wisconsinites as well as Minnesotans. Most said POP but a few, from East Central Wisconsin especially, called it SODA. In fact I actually saw one girl reading the pizza parlor special listed on their chalkboard and although it read &quot;pitcher of pop&quot; she said it outloud as &quot;pitcher of soda.&quot; They also call cooking on the grill a &quot;fryout&quot; and I've never heard that anywhere else! <BR><BR>I'm sure it's true of everywhere in the world but you don't have to go far in this country to find totally different colloquialisms. I always find it kind of fun. Perhaps that might be partly why they giggled.

rsnyder Apr 16th, 2003 07:51 AM

Then we can try sack, poke, bag or how about creek or crick for a small stream or different local names for fish, ducks,etc?<BR><BR>One of the many neat things to learn as one travels about this great county-world.

doc_ Apr 16th, 2003 07:53 AM

If you are a Boston native,it is &quot;tonic&quot; and you drink water out of a &quot;bubbler&quot;;#)

karenabs Apr 16th, 2003 07:55 AM

Just ask what kind of soft drinks they have and you'll get the list......included in that list, you'll get Coke or Pepsi, order the one you want........usually if you order Coke and they don't carry that, they ask if Pepsi is okay or the other way around......

zootsi Apr 16th, 2003 08:02 AM

Also realize that in the US lemonade is a non carbonated mix of lemon juice and sugar water - not Sprite or 7Up, and a jumper is a type of dress not a sweater!

Diana Apr 16th, 2003 08:21 AM

And EnglishOne, try to keep a straight face when you see the signs for:<BR><BR>&quot;FANNY PACKS ON SALE NOW! 50% OFF!&quot;

EnglishOne Apr 16th, 2003 08:36 AM

Diana - lol, don't get me started on that one:)<BR><BR>One poster over on the Europe forum wrote: &quot;My time in London last year resulted in getting my fanny pack picked while on the subway.&quot;<BR><BR>Ahem!!

Diana Apr 16th, 2003 08:42 AM

OH NO!<BR><BR>I'm sure your family or co-workers did not come running to see what was on the computer that made you howl with laughter over that one!<BR><BR>How about, &quot;Tourist Suffers Loss In Fanny Pack Snatching.&quot;

EnglishOne Apr 16th, 2003 08:53 AM

I s'pose its like us saying 'we fancy a fag' (cigarette)...

ncgrrl Apr 16th, 2003 09:03 AM

I say 'soda' because one time when I mentioned I wanted a coke (meaning caffeine free, diet coke) I got the fully caffeinated and sugared coke-cola. Since that mishap, I try to stay generic.<BR><BR>Though most places in the south will automatically serve sweetened ice tea, some may not. Ask first. <BR><BR>Now for my rant about tea: Sugar doesn't dissolve in cold water, therefore you should add the sugar in the steeping process. Stir all you want but that packet of sugar will not dissolve into the drink leaving a clump of sugar at the bottom of the glass. <BR><BR>Southerns, being smarter than most everyone else ;), figured out that by adding sugar in the steeping process and then cooling down the beverage works better.<BR><BR>Also, you should receive a wedge of lemon with your glass of 'sweet tea' because even though you can get all the refills of sweet tea, no one ever brings more lemon.<BR><BR>End of rant.

Gothampc Apr 16th, 2003 09:24 AM

EnglishOne, don't tell me you are going to Memphis and NOLA and drinking Coke. While you are in the South, you should drink iced tea. Just ask the waitress for &quot;a sweet tea&quot;. Nobody makes it like they do in the South.

Elizabeth Apr 16th, 2003 09:33 AM

In New York, a &quot;coke&quot; is ONLY a Coca-Cola, absolutely never any other carbonated drink. And as noted, if you ask for a Coke and the place serves Pepsi instead, or, more rarely, some off-brand (does RC Cola still exist?) they'll always tell you (because some people actually will drink only one or the other).<BR><BR> And I've learned from this discussion that &quot;coke&quot; DOESN'T always mean a Coke in other places.

GoTravel Apr 16th, 2003 09:52 AM

Gothampc, Coca Cola is very much a southern drink. After all, its birthplace is Atlanta. Hard pressed to find restaurants that serve Pepsi products, mostly Coca Cola.

Budman Apr 16th, 2003 09:57 AM

Trying not to confuse the poor Brit, when I tell my wife to pick up some cokes at the grocery store, she knows to get Coca Cola, 7-up, Dr. Pepper, Root Beer, etc.<BR><BR>

DeborahB Apr 16th, 2003 10:47 AM

Just want to put my 2 cents worth in. Can't help you with the soda question because since I've moved to NC from PA and tasted my first sip of sweetea I drink nothing else. It is fantastic!!!! You must try it!

EnglishOne Apr 16th, 2003 11:30 AM

Ok, will definitely try sweet tea! Thanks for the tip. Is it possible to have it without the sugar (un-sweet tea!), or won't it taste as good?

Bill_I Apr 16th, 2003 11:35 AM

There are places in the midwest that when you ask for a Coke, they will serve you a Pepsi, or RC (Royal Crown cola)or a generic cola. They will serve these to you without asking is Pepsi ok. Being a brand name Coke drinker, I will ask first if they have Pepsi or Coke products. So that I won't get stuck being served a Pepsi. The same with with Sprite type pop. Sprite is the Coke brand lemon-lime, Sierra Mist is the Pepsi brand &amp; then there is 7-UP. If you really care about what brand name you want to be served, you may want to ask what brand they have. By the way, if you go to a place that serves IBC Root Beer, give it a try.

Gothampc Apr 16th, 2003 12:07 PM

EnglishOne, it is definitely possible to have unsweet tea. You will find that many places in the South make sweet tea extra sweet. The purpose of the tea being extra sweet is to combat the vinegar in the barbeque sauce. You have been warned! :)

Becca Apr 16th, 2003 12:23 PM

I'm from Tennessee, and beachdreams has it exactly right: we ask for a Coke when we are at a friend's house, but out at a restaurant, you ask for specifics: Coke, Sprite, Dr. Pepper, etc. Generally, we think that northerners, also known as Yankees :) use the terms &quot;pop&quot; and &quot;soda.&quot; However, I did know a guy once who asked for &quot;sody-pop.&quot; I can understand how this all gets confusing. One more piece of information: did you know that out of all the dialects in the United States, the Southern dialect is the closest in similarity to the British? I learned this in a class in college about ten years ago, so I can't remember the specifics, but I thought this was pretty interesting.

DeborahB Apr 16th, 2003 12:31 PM

EnglishOne, you can get sweet tea unsweetened but then whats the point...<BR><BR>Do atleast once try sweet tea.

OliveOyl Apr 16th, 2003 12:37 PM

I'm just guessing at this, but could it be that if you don't like sugar in your coffee, you won't like it in your tea either? If I pick up my husband's sweetened coffee by mistake and take a sip...there is no way I can swallow it. Nasty. And...I feel the same way about sweetened tea. Even unsweetened, I'll drink it only if nothing else is available. But then, maybe I associate it too much with my mother-in-law with whom I hooked horns from day #1.<BR><BR>I've evolved from being a Coke drinker, to Diet Coke drinker, to water only and sparkling if available. This wasn't a conscious &quot;health-nut&quot; decision. Coke especially, which I used to love, now tastes waaay too sweet and the diet version with artificial sweeteners isn't much better. Lets keep it pure...water or vino. A votre sante!!... :&gt;

Becca Apr 16th, 2003 12:47 PM

If no sugar in coffee = no sugar in tea, then I'm an exception. Though I've been a Southerner my whole life, I've always drank unsweet tea. But when I drink coffee, I like it with sugar. Now, I don't like &quot;cokes&quot; (too sweet), so maybe it's no cokes = no sugar in tea?


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