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skaf Jan 16th, 2005 05:14 AM

boston help
 
I plan to take a fall foliage tour next autumn and need some help.
I decided on a 6 day Globus tour, and want to add a few days to be alone in Boston.
1. I know that last year the foliage was late but it might be a windy autumn and then it will pass early. what is my best bet ? first week of October or last one of September ?
2. I want to take a day trip to Newport, do the Freedom trail, walk in Beacon Hill, Back bay and the parks. take some cruise, and go to Harvard to see the area and the glass flowers. (not planning more museums).
3. are 4 days realistic ? (I am not young and a slow traveller).
4. considering I am over 60 and prone to seasickness, would a Whale Watching cruse be realistic ?
thank you. any more ideas will be appreciated. thank you. shula

Anonymous Jan 16th, 2005 06:42 AM

Forget the whale watching, not a good use of your limited time, especially if you might be sick.

Early October is the very earliest I'd look for foliage in the Boston area; where does the Globus tour go? Foliage tends to peak starting in the northwest (VT) and working southeastward towards Boston and Cape Cod.

The places you've named in Boston area all very do-able within a couple of days, especially if by "the parks" you mean Boston Common and the Public Garden, which are between Beacon Hill and the Back Bay. There are hour-long cruises of Boston Harbor.

Cassandra Jan 16th, 2005 06:43 AM

Starting with the last -- skip the Whale Watching cruise; even people not prone to seasickness have run into trouble with these. But how much of a "cruise" do you have in mind? Want to be out of sight of land, or just poke around in the waters around Boston or the New England coast?

gail Jan 16th, 2005 08:18 AM

At that time of year, waters can be rough and it gets quite cold out there - I also suggest skipping the whale watch. As far as your wish to "take some cruise", there are various Boston Harbor cruises - anywhere from lunchtime brown bag thing (that may run only in summer) to shuttles to various harbor islands to fancy dinner cruise.

skaf Jan 16th, 2005 08:27 AM


thank you.
o.k. skiped the whales.
the tour goes rougly Boston-stockbridge-stowe-north conway-kebbebunkport-boston. including the Green and White mountains and a gondola ride up Wildcat mountain.
does this help with the dates ?
(i hate cold weather. and to wait till middle October and then find that i missed it and the leaves are gone, seems worst than having the trees still green).
wish i can wait to the last minute but i heard tours are filling up.

one more question. i e-mailed the DeCordova Sculpture Park, and they said there is no public transportation. the train is more than 2 miles away and no bus. can i count on Taxis in Lincoln. or better to forget it as well ?
(unbelievable but i don't drive)

massteacher Jan 16th, 2005 01:32 PM

We have done Globus tours and have been very satisfied. Peak color in the Boston area is often around Columbus Day weekend. There are so many variables, however that effect when the color will be at its best or if there will be good color, at all. We have been to Vermont around that time with only partial color. It is very hard to predict. I think the first week in October is a safe bet for color SOMEWHERE in New England, since you are visiting a variety of locations. That is also a great time to tour Boston on foot. You will hopefully experience comfortable weather and sunny skies. Skip both the Lincoln museum in the interest of time, and the whale watch .There is SO much to see and do right in the city. The Beantown Trolley is a great way to get around. It enables you to get on and off, at your will, at the various locations. People say the Duck Tours are also fun. That goes around the city in a ground vehicle and then becomes water-worthy, when you tour on the Charles River.. Newport,
Rhode Island is a fantastic place to visit, but I wonder if it is practical for you. Would you be taking a bus from Boston? You will need an entire day there. Four days sounds about right, but you should list your priorities and their locations. For example, Harvard is in Cambridge, not the city of Boston, so you will need to think about public transportation. One and one-half to two days to walk around the city and/or ride the Trolley might be feasible. Hope you enjoy your trip. You will seeing some of the "jewels" of New England, but keep in mind that all of the driving and sightseeing you will be doing in advance might tire you, so don't get overlyambitious in your plans in Boston. I am in the same age category as you, so I know how exhausting these trips can be. Be sure to include some "chill out"
time to regain your energy. Please post a report of your trip, when you return.

cigalechanta Jan 16th, 2005 01:45 PM

You take the red line from park (or other stops on the red line)directly to Harvard Square. There are wall maps with the lines in color.

Jacqueline1212 Jan 16th, 2005 02:14 PM

Lincoln is a very small, residential, rural town and I would guess there wouldn't be any taxis at the train unless you called ahead for one to meet you there and then, arranged a time for them to come back to get you at the museum for the return. There must be some kind of taxi service in the area. The trip to Lincoln that way will take quite a chunk of time. Be aware that, if you choose to go on a weekend, some commuter rail lines have less frequent service than on weekdays. Unless you are REALLY interested in the museum, you may be better off skipping it.

cigalechanta Jan 16th, 2005 02:22 PM

I'll try to find out about taxi's in Lincoln

cigalechanta Jan 16th, 2005 02:55 PM

Couldn't find any taxis in Lincoln. The town has a web page and nothing was listed and my brother-inLaw lives there but away.

sharona Jan 16th, 2005 06:13 PM

I found a taxi service that serves Lincoln: Harrison Transportation Service, 1-800-945-2600. You will undoubtedly need to make advance arrangements with them to get you to and from the DeCordova.

traveler24 Jan 16th, 2005 08:14 PM

Three years ago the "color" peaked about Oct 3 -10 in Vermont, N.H. and by mid Oct. was in the "lower" New England states..
Re; stay in Boston--
I am in the midst of planning time in Boston in April after I spend 5 days with an Elderhostel group.(the group focus will be on Art so I too will not be doing the "museums" again.
Iplan to go to Harvard area via the "T" and spend the day...do the tour: lots of shops, cafes and bookstores in area.
I love the Quincy Market , I know it is a tourist trap but plan to spend 1/2 day..I get the family gifts there !!!
The other 1/2 of that day will try a Cruise on the Bay OR just eat at "No Name" on wharf on the waterfront (only a 5 min. walk from Quincy Mkt.)
One day for Boston Commons -Back Bay area. Newbury St. ---lots of boutiques and art galleries and sidewalk cafes...
So you see there is full 3 days already...I don't usually schedule "rest" periods just insert as needed....for that reason I am planning to stay 5 full days
I am going to try Beacon Hill Bed and Breakfast --near the Charles River-- recommendation of friend.
Bed and Breakfast Agency of Boston
is a good resource 1-800-248-9262
Fall foliage season is one of the most crowded times in Boston and the hotel rates are at their highest level..So book early..
Do you have any idea where you will stay while in Boston?? just curious...
Hope this helps..




Anonymous Jan 17th, 2005 03:48 AM

Over the past few years, Harvard Square, like Quincy Marketplace, has been increasingly filled with chain stores. For more of the old Harvard Square flavor, wander a few blocks up or down Massachusetts Avenue to areas where the rents ar a bit lower so the funkier stores can still afford to stay.

skaf Jan 17th, 2005 06:55 AM

thank you all so much.
I see I am on the right track.
I will try to get a flight that brings me at noon so I can fight some of the jet leg immediately.
then two days of Boston with the help of the trolley (I have knee problems and know how to take it easy by using trolleys, boats etc.)
the third day I mean to take a Grayline tour to Newport (the Breakers, Marble house and 10 mile drive) which has again enough bus rest. (after San Simion I have to see more of this American castles).
the fourth day is the one that the tour meets at 7 pm. so I will probably go to Harvard to see the glass flowers (heard about it from my mom years ago) and take it easy. i know the tour will be fast but it is after all only 5 days.
I might have to add a night after the tour, it will give me almost a fifth day. and I will see what I feel like doing.
(the only shopping I need to do is looking if NB has the only model I can wear, wrote them to get information about the Boston shop).
if I really have to book the tour for October already now, it have some time to book a room. the cheap rooms at the Newbury guest house are already full (!?) but after I have my final dates I will e-mail them.
aren't they pulling my leg about needing to book a Globus tour for October in January ? thank you all again. shula

Anonymous Jan 17th, 2005 07:10 AM

No, they are not pulling your leg. Many of the accommodations in prime foliage areas are booked a full year in advance. It's a brief, special time in a small, special area.

For public transit in Boston, you should differentiate between the pblic bus/ subway system, and the tourist-tour trollies. A few of the lines/vehicles in the public transit system are indeed "trollies," making the discusison tricky. But in general, for instance referring to getting from downtown to Harvard Square, you'd be taking the subway, which is poularly referred to as "The T". Maps etc. are at www.mbta.com. The glass flowers are at Harvard's Museum of Natural History, which is several minutes' walk from the nearest subway station.

Thanks to the passage of the Americans With Disabilities Act, most public places will have elevators that you can use to reduce the demands on your knees. Ask about them in the subway system and at the grand homes in Newport. And taxis are always an alternative -- if you have a good map with the subway routes and stations on it, you can make intelligent choices that will be a compromise between your knees and your wallet!

Anonymous Jan 17th, 2005 07:12 AM

"the only shopping I need to do is looking if NB has the only model I can wear, wrote them to get information about the Boston shop"

What is "NB"?

skaf Jan 17th, 2005 07:17 AM

New Balance.

Anonymous Jan 17th, 2005 07:36 AM

There are literally dozens of stores in the Boston area that carry that brand, including Marathon Sports and City Sports, which have various locations. You might make a few one calls after you get here to see if they have your specific item in stock.

skaf Jan 17th, 2005 08:01 AM

nice you are on line. are you from boston ?. (i am terrible at calculating time zones). is it morning in Boston now ? it is 7 pm here.

dwsjas89 Jan 17th, 2005 08:17 AM

Wow, that sound like a really nice trip you'll be taking. Like the others, I would say no to the whale watching. The early part of October is generally beautiful for leaf peeping. You should also enjoy Kennbunkport. It is quaint and picturesque. Boston is a great city to walk around in, Freedom Trail and the Boston Common are always a good time. Have fun on your trip!

gail Jan 17th, 2005 08:24 AM

October hotel bookings are tight not only because of foliage but because it is Parents' weekends at various colleges - book something cancellable now and then loook around for a better deal.

New Balance has an outlet store in Brighton, but if you know model and size, I would not waste my time on your brief trip for that - call them, check at various places on=line and order them that way.

skaf Jan 17th, 2005 08:56 AM

you must all be Americans because no one comments on me not believing that I must book the tour already.
we are used to wait for last minutes deals. no one makes plans so long ahead.
the more I hear from you the more certain I am I chose a good vacation.
are the Newbury Guest House or the John Jeffries House good options ?

highledge Jan 17th, 2005 10:03 AM

Can't help with the tour booking, but will try with a few other points.
Marathon sports carries a range of running sneakers/trainers. It's worth calling to see if they carry your model or arrange for it to be ordered. They have a store near copley Square. If you are determined to take some sort of cruise/boat ride, take a duck tour. It tours around Boston and them into the Charles River for a quick ride. Lots of fun.

Anonymous Jan 17th, 2005 10:49 AM

Newbury and Jeffries are both good choices. Not sure whether either has an elevator -- check with tehm if stairs ar a problem for you.

Newbury, in the heart of Back bay, is a townhouse on a street renowned for upscale shopping. Jeffries used to be the nursing students' quarters for Mass General Hospital, it's a big substantial structure just steps away from a station on the subway's Red Line, which goes to Harvard Square.

I agree, the Duck Tour is a lot of fun and just the right amount of water for anyone who gets seasick!

rjw_lgb_ca Jan 17th, 2005 11:46 AM

Newbury Guest House does have an elevator (I never used it), but note that the Newbury St. entrance is up a few steps. It is also charming and ideally-located for a visit to Boston (I absolutely love it). Additionally, it is VERY popular and must be booked at least six weeks in advance. October, as everyone has noted, is a very busy time for Boston, so you would have to make reservations at the Guest House NOW.

skaf Jan 19th, 2005 10:53 PM

hi, booked yesterday the 6 days (actually 5 net) Globus tour from 1 October. flights, and the Newbury Fuest house for 4 nights before the tour.
I will have an extra post-tour night at the tour hotel - Boston Park Plaza.
so now I can leave it, and in July I will come back to get more help about making the most of my 5 days in Boston.
thanks everyone. shula

luv2cook Jan 20th, 2005 02:39 AM

If you have any time to visit Salem go to the Peabody Essex Museum. www.PEM.org to view their web site. They have the finest collection of Chinese export porcelain in the world and always have changing exhibits.

skaf Jan 20th, 2005 05:39 AM

thanks. in the last day Itinerary is writen " at Salem ...You’ll have time to visit the many historic landmarks". so i will see what it means.


Anonymous Jan 20th, 2005 05:51 AM

Do prepare yourself in advance if you have free time in Salem -- the attractions range from the ridiculous to the sublime.

skaf Jan 20th, 2005 06:57 AM

actually I think I will do the touristy things in Salem, maybe go to the Pirate museum or the harbour or something.
I really believe that in a way you go and see the typical things in places (of course trying to chose the better ones).
I was in China last year and go frequently to Europe. so to see a Chinese house etc....
I looked at the Peabody museum beautiful site, and to go on a little free time in a tour would be just to say I was. it deserves much more time an attention.
I think about the Isabella Stewart Gardner in Boston. the courtyard looks lovely.
but again, I prefer to see good American painters and sculptures and not European art when I am in Boston. any ideas ?

Anonymous Jan 20th, 2005 07:24 AM

One goes to the Gardner as much for the experience and ambience as for the art. If that doesn't suit you, the Boston Museum of Fine Arts is just two blocks away, with plenty of old American stuff including amazing furniture and silver collections. One of my favorite galleries is the historic period rooms, tucked away in the basement.

helenbreen Mar 26th, 2005 05:06 PM

Skaf, welcome to Boston. I have lived here all of my life. Autumn is a very special time, although we natives may take it for granted. I always remember a very well traveled British woman whom I met on a tour in Italy. She was a widow whose husband had been a diplomat. She said that of all her world travels her best memories were of a Tauck tour of northern New England in October many years ago. Indeed, when the weather is fine - it is remarkable. She loved the cider stands, church fairs, bean suppers, cornstalks, pumpkins, etc. Enjoy New England!

KathrynT Mar 26th, 2005 06:48 PM

What are the glass flowers at Harvard? Sounds intriguing.

Anonymous Mar 26th, 2005 07:34 PM

The Harvard Museum of Natural history houes, among many other wonders, a collection of botanically precise flowers and plants made over a period of decades in ermany by two glassmakers (father and son) who took their creative secrets wtih them.

http://www.hmnh.harvard.edu/exhibiti...ssflowers.html

skaf Apr 2nd, 2005 08:34 PM

just checked and you are all still here.
I have most of my flights, the tour, and the Newbury guest house.
now I have just to wait for the end of September.
meanwhile I hope to go Europe which is much closer to me.
will probably come back for last moments advise.
specially about the best transportation to Newport for a day.
thanks all. shula

skaf Oct 21st, 2005 12:15 AM

just to say thanks to everyone who helped me.
had two days of beautiful foliage coulors in new hamphshire and vermont.
loved Boston. the Newbury guesthouse was nice and it's location the best.
the Freedom Trail with the customed guide was fun. loved the new Stata Center
in MIT, the skywalk, glass flowers etc.
special thanks to Anonymous
for convincing me to go to the Gardner Museum it was my favorite in Boston.
everyone was friendly and nice, even the policeman i consulted near Harvard and called for a taxi for me.
didn't like Newport (very easy with to reach eith the Bonanza bus) so much. liked KENNEBUNKPORT much more. even so we didn't see anything of Main's coast because of the fog.
had a lovely time. thank you. shula


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